Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

[X-Era]

I can honestly say Tuel is the worst QB to start for us since Alex Van Pelt.

That play on the 0.000005 yard line was the biggest pile of **** play I have ever seen. Add in the horrible throws to defenders and floating almost every throw he threw... He does not even belong on our practice squad.

And that makes Whaley more responsible for this loss than Tuel.

The second EJ went down we should have been looking for a legit backup. Truly when Kolb went down we should have been looking for a legit experienced backup. Thad Lewis is a borderline quality backup, and we know Tuel is garbage. That means we were starting garbage and had plenty of time to fix that way back to 4 weeks ago when EJ went down.

QB doesn't matter... Run and stop the run... We did both and still lost because we had an inadequate QB. Tired of that garbage answer to inadequate QB play.

Now, if someone can tell me why we kept throwing deep with this pile of garbage at QB including a critical 4 and 3 I will be shocked. Defies all logic.

Dear Marrone, your next man up concept loses games when you next man is a pile of garbage. You had no business throwing with Tuel and especially on a 4th and 3.

As far as I'm concerned we now need two experienced quality vet QB's. Flynn may be one. But we need to be signing one tonight and releasing Tuel. Then Flynn, Thad, and the new guy can battle to be the backup to EJ and the runner up can be third string. The loser is cut.

Horrible. Horrible choice of talent. Horrible play. Horrible loss on an easily winnable game with an adequate backup QB.

[Novacane]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

If they'd of just been conservative we'd of won this game.

[coastal]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

Whaley isn't responsible for the QB depth or lack thereof...

That would be Buddy Nix and Riss Brandon.

[split71]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

Really...?

[YardRat]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

I like what Whaley has done so far, and Marrone and his staff. To play a 'shoulda won' game against an 8-0 team that turned on a couple of bone-head plays despite starting a fourth-string QB is a tribute to what the front office and coaching staff have been able to do with this team in a really short period of time.

[Mace]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

And that makes Whaley more responsible for this loss than Tuel.

No it doesn't. Whaley gave them a pile of QB's to choose from. The guys using the QB's have to be able to know how any of them can throw by now instead of playcalling a game pretending you have someone else in there. That's just coaching coaching coaching and coaching.

[X-Era]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

I like what Whaley has done so far, and Marrone and his staff. To play a 'shoulda won' game against an 8-0 team that turned on a couple of bone-head plays despite starting a fourth-string QB is a tribute to what the front office and coaching staff have been able to do with this team in a really short period of time.

I think you actually agreed with me.

Tuel is 4th string which means he's not even good enough for our PS. We needed a true second stringer. But yes, the rest of our team was good enough to win today.

[cookie G]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

They're down to their 4th string QB.

I don't know what people expect.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

I think you actually agreed with me.

Tuel is 4th string which means he's not even good enough for our PS. We needed a true second stringer. But yes, the rest of our team was good enough to win today.

minus gilmore who sucked and chandler who couldn't catch

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and while i'm at it, where the f*** was the 6 trillion dollar line today. it was ok i guess, but not great

[X-Era]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

No it doesn't. Whaley gave them a pile of QB's to choose from. The guys using the QB's have to be able to know how any of them can throw by now instead of playcalling a game pretending you have someone else in there. That's just coaching coaching coaching and coaching.

So Whaley gave them garbage to work with? I agree.

Marrone thinks he can throw the long ball. Truth is he can't reliably throw any ball. But that is also on Marrone. That said, a coach coaches who he has. Whaley gave him crap to start today.

[cookie G]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

minus gilmore who sucked and chandler who couldn't catch

And TJ Graham...I have no idea why he continues to be on the field. Absolutely clueless when the ball is in the air. I think McLovin has better ball skills.

[X-Era]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

They're down to their 4th string QB.

I don't know what people expect.

A front office to have provided a legit backup way back when Kolb went down.

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They're down to their 4th string QB.

I don't know what people expect.

A front office to have provided a legit backup way back when Kolb went down.

[YardRat]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

I think you actually agreed with me.

Tuel is 4th string which means he's not even good enough for our PS. We needed a true second stringer. But yes, the rest of our team was good enough to win today.

I don't think so. Guys aren't going to just come in off the street and pick up the offense quick enough to do any better than Lewis or Tuel could have. If Kolb wouldn't have gotten hurt late in preseason, the point would be moot. Of course, he'd still probably be out at this point and we'd still be playing Tuel because the china doll wouldn't have lasted long after replacing EJ after his injury.

[X-Era]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

Good news, we will likely be picking top 15 and probably top 10.

Not sure where we should go though. Tuel was not sacked and even though Pears got beat several times our run O has been good all year.

S? Maybe but A Williams looks good.

CB? I feel like I'd rather have another legit #2 or #3 vet.

OLB? Could be Hughes is decent. I'd like Khalil Mack.

TE? That I could see. Chandler should just leave after this year.

WR? Yes I'd like another young, fast guy with size. Easley should just be gone. Graham nor Goodwin is good enough at outside #2 WR.

[mjt328]

Re: Tuel and moreover Whaley is why we lost this game.

I've been critical of this front office as much as anyone, but you're really grasping at straws.

Tuel is our FOURTH STRING quarterback. Most of the teams in the NFL carry two on the active roster. Nobody goes into a season prepared to handle the top 3 guys getting hurt. There isn't crap available out there.

Whaley had a legit backup on the roster with starting experience (Kevin Kolb). He got hurt.
They felt good about Thad Lewis, and he played OK for a 3rd stringer. He got hurt.
They signed Matt Flynn, but the coaching staff felt more comfortable starting Tuel today.