Flynn released

[X-Era]

From BB.com

No clue why.

Must be he just can't grasp our offense or something. Keeping Tuel is stupid right now. I'd rather try Dixon.

[DynaPaul]

Great, that means we're definitely keeping Tuel.

[paladin warrior]

Damn I hate Tuel

[GingerP]

If EJ, Tuel & Lewis are all healthy, why keep him? Seems the most logical man out.

[Meathead]

theyre pretty close to having the three guys they want on the team long term all available to play. flynn was just disaster insurance

regarding tuel look at it this way, if you had a floating ball wouldnt you want someone to evaluate it first without just rushing to cut it? maybe your floating ball could be corrected or maybe youd just have to use it as a bath toy. but cutting as the first option just isnt wise when most of your other balls dont float

[Novacane]

If it wasn't for one horrible mistake most everyone would be happy with Tuel. I'm willing to see if he learned from that mistake.

[Forward_Lateral]

I'd rather have Tuel than Flynn as the THIRD QB.

They (The Bills) aren't going to say all of the good things they've said about Tuel, and then just cut him after one game.

Flynn was obviously insurance, and couldn't beat out an undrafted rookie to start when he had the chance. He sucks.

[The King]

If it wasn't for one horrible mistake most everyone would be happy with Tuel. I'm willing to see if he learned from that mistake.
He over threw on the 1st INT, and missed repeatedly. Not one mistake..

[BertSquirtgum]

This is where I begin to hate marrone

[Jry44]

From BB.com

No clue why.

Must be he just can't grasp our offense or something. Keeping Tuel is stupid right now. I'd rather try Dixon.

He sucks. Hate to say it, but he's been terrible ever since he left Green Bay.

[Jry44]

This is where I begin to hate marrone

Show me one good highlight or...., anything good for that matter of Matt Flynn having any sort of success at all since leaving Green Bay.

[MTBillsFan]

Here's my question: Does he keep the hat and sweatshirt or does he have to give those back?

[Novacane]

He over threw on the 1st INT, and missed repeatedly. Not one mistake..

I know he made other poor passes but I said one horrible mistake and it was a mental one. Without that we likely win and most people are saying he did a decent job and can get better. Because of one terrible decision everyone thinks he's useless and should be cut. That is nonsense IMO

[X-Era]

He sucks. Hate to say it, but he's been terrible ever since he left Green Bay.It's level of suckiness at this point. Tuel does not even belong on an NFL roster.

[Novacane]

It's level of suckiness at this point. Tuel does not even belong on an NFL roster.



Marone disagrees with you.

[Forward_Lateral]

This is where I begin to hate marrone

If you hate a coach over who he chooses as the third string QB, you are a complete asshat

[X-Era]

Marone disagrees with you.Or he backs his players publicly.

[Jry44]

It's level of suckiness at this point. Tuel does not even belong on an NFL roster.

I don't disagree with you. Right now Tuel is just a little less sucky than Flynn only because he knows the playbook.

[DesertFox24]

Tuel needs to be developed and he has some mechanics issues that need to be worked on during the off season.

He is a guy that never should have played for the first 2 or 3 years of his career and we should have had a legit veteran on the roster. That being said he has some physical tools that I think could be developed in the future but he has a long long long way to go.

Flynn has hit his perverbial ceiling and that is why he is gone, Tuel maybe develops and lights up the preseason in a couple of years and we can get a draft pick for him ie Schaub.

[Novacane]

Or he backs his players publicly.



He could of cut him instead of Flynn today. I think people are overreacting because his mistake was so huge and cost us the game. He may turn out to be a bum but he showed enough in his first ever NFL game to be worth keeping as our 3rd stringer for this year.

[Ed]

Why not put Tuel on the practice squad and keep Flynn as the 3rd? Then you don't have to get rid of either.

[HAMMER]

From BB.com

No clue why.

Must be he just can't grasp our offense or something. Keeping Tuel is stupid right now. I'd rather try Dixon.

No clue why? really?

[justasportsfan]

From BB.com

No clue why.

Must be he just can't grasp our offense or something. Keeping Tuel is stupid right now. I'd rather try Dixon.

are you telling us Marrone is stupid? Do you think he's doing a horrible job?

[justasportsfan]

Flynn couldn't beat out any back ups with the seahawks and raiders and people ask "why". Really?

[RedEyE]

I had read (prior to Buffalo) that Flynn has not been putting the time in for prep. That he has been skating through film and really just not putting forth any effort. If that's true, then that's one thing Flynn can't compete with Tuel. You can say many things about Tuel but he definitly puts in the work.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

This makes me think EJ will be ready To go on Sunday.

[ServoBillieves]

This is a typical Bills season. We are upset that we didn't cut our 3rd string QB instead of our 4th string QB. Marrone had better start EJ this week if healthy.

[WagonCircler]

Tuel played exactly the type of game that each of the other QBs has played in every game this season. A few good plays, some very uneven play, some terrible mistakes.

They all have one thing in common, including EJ. They're just not very good.

[Homegrown]

dang...I just ordered my #17 Flynn from a sweat shop in China

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Wait, why the **** are we keeping the Kansas City Chiefs week 9 MVP? I think Andy Reid should have given that **** sandwich a game ball for his services to the chiefs yesterday.

[X-Era]

are you telling us Marrone is stupid? Do you think he's doing a horrible job?No, intelligent people can make stupid choices.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

are you telling us Marrone is stupid? Do you think he's doing a horrible job?
Marrone on the field is doing okay, they dominated the Chiefs defense and stopped the KC offense, but Tuel should have been cut within minutes of the end of the game yesterday. Security should have escorted him off the premises stopping just long enough so Andy Reid could give him the game ball.

[DraftBoy]

Tuel v. Flynn is the 2013 Flutie v. Johnson

Pick your side now! Next Saturday is the cage match to the death!!!!

[sukie]

I hope they released him prior to 11AM checkout time at the Red Roof Inn.

[justasportsfan]

Tuel played exactly the type of game that each of the other QBs has played in every game this season. A few good plays, some very uneven play, some terrible mistakes.

.
:up:

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Tuel v. Flynn is the 2013 Flutie v. Johnson

Pick your side now! Next Saturday is the cage match to the death!!!!

I'm Flynntonite, and I've got my club to beat Tuel senseless, of course judging from his play against the Chiefs I think someone already beat Tuel senseless.

[Novacane]

Marrone on the field is doing okay, they dominated the Chiefs defense and stopped the KC offense, but Tuel should have been cut within minutes of the end of the game yesterday. Security should have escorted him off the premises stopping just long enough so Andy Reid could give him the game ball.


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[justasportsfan]

Marrone on the field is doing okay, they dominated the Chiefs defense and stopped the KC offense, but Tuel should have been cut within minutes of the end of the game yesterday. Security should have escorted him off the premises stopping just long enough so Andy Reid could give him the game ball.

why? Because an unrestricted rookie FA couldn't do what other 9 qb's in this couldn't do either ...beat KC?

After all these years in the league even Romo had 1 TD vs KC.

M. VIck 1 TD 2 INT 200 yds
Eli Manning 1 TD 217 yds. Giants scored a total of 7 points.
Fitz 1 td 2 int 247 yds
T Pryor 1 TD 3 INT scored total 7 pts.

Yes, Tuel got help from the running game, but his wrs were dropping balls. It also wasn't his fault the run game couldn't punch the ball in.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

why? Because an unrestricted rookie FA couldn't do what other 9 qb's in this couldn't do either ...beat KC?

After all these years in the league even Romo had 1 TD vs KC.

M. VIck 1 TD 2 INT 200 yds
Eli Manning 1 TD 217 yds. Giants scored a total of 7 points.
Fitz 1 td 2 int 247 yds
T Pryor 1 TD 3 INT scored total 7 pts.

Yes, Tuel got help from the running game, but his wrs were dropping balls. It also wasn't his fault the run game couldn't punch the ball in.

Romo, **** qb, Vick, **** qb, Eli the Giants are a **** team this season, Fitz and Pryor are **** qbs, and Tuel is a **** qb. He couldn't do what 8 other qbs could do? Well ****, is that because KC is so good or is it that their teams are lousy? What are their records? How many of those teams are going to be playing in January?

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Dumb post

I agree, saying something is a dumb post without stating why is dumb.

[justasportsfan]

Romo, **** qb, Vick, **** qb, Eli the Giants are a **** team this season, Fitz and Pryor are **** qbs, and Tuel is a **** qb. He couldn't do what 8 other qbs could do? Well ****, is that because KC is so good or is it that their teams are lousy? What are their records? How many of those teams are going to be playing in January?

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I agree, saying something is a dumb post without stating why is dumb.that still doesn't justify getting rid of Tuel and having him escorted out. Maybe your expectations of him were high and that falls on you. Besides, what other qb on the bills rosters is proven? none. When you wrs are dropping balls, I doubt you win.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

that still doesn't justify getting rid of Tuel and having him escorted out. Maybe your expectations of him were high and that falls on you. Besides, what other qb on the bills rosters is proven? none. When you wrs are dropping balls, I doubt you win.

I'm sorry, Justa, I will explain, I had no expectations out of him other than to try to NOT lose the game. We were ahead. That TD pass he threw was a 10 point shift. I knew we were not going to score another TD on that play, but we could have went up 13-3 and at that time its over because guess what Alex Smith wasn't completing passes to his receivers and Charles was not being stopped, but he was being contained. I just wanted him not to lose. Its not like Cleveland where he was asked to win, he was just asked not to lose and he couldn't even do that. Hell, he should have just cradled the football and tried to run it in. Also, when you are inside your ten and you have oodles of time left and your D has stopped the other team all damn day long you do what you are good at, run the ball down their throat. I just wanted him to NOT LOSE and he couldn't even do that. I agree, we have some crappy qbs but I have not seen anyone in a Bills uni play this bad since JP Losman.

[cookie G]

I'm sure they realize they would have won the game if they had only started Flynn. They are just covering up their mistake and making him a scapegoat.

[Lone Stranger]

Great, that means we're definitely keeping Tuel.

I think that's a travesty. Didn't even give Flynn a chance.

[BertSquirtgum]

Keeping Tuel on the roster and cutting Flynn is really stupid. Why not put the kid on the PS? He's terrible. Nobody is going to come in and sign him. There was no reason not to keep Flynn over Tuel besides the reason that Tuel must be dating Marrone's daughter or something. I have no other explanation for what he sees in this kid.

[better days]

He over threw on the 1st INT, and missed repeatedly. Not one mistake..

Tuel did enough to win the game, but he was also responsible for losing it.

He is an undrafted ROOKIE QB with a HIGH upside & anyone SHOULD be able to see that after the Chiefs game.

[BertSquirtgum]

Tuel did enough to win the game, but he was also responsible for losing it.

He is an undrafted ROOKIE QB with a HIGH upside & anyone SHOULD be able to see that after the Chiefs game.

This makes the least sense out of any post I've read on here. If he did enough to win the game the Bills would have one the game. His awful play was the main reason the Bills lost the game. It is that simple. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand. He had ZERO upside. You're a real clown if you truly believe this guy is going to amount to anything in this league.

[feldspar]

From BB.com

No clue why.

Must be he just can't grasp our offense or something. Keeping Tuel is stupid right now. I'd rather try Dixon.

Obviously, he was just here for a safety net.

EJ is coming back, and Lewis is getting healthy too. Tuel is the third-string development guy.

We HAVE three quarterbacks...some teams don't even have THAT.

There is nothing to figure out here. Flynn never had time to incorporate into the program, anyway...so long. I barely knew ye.

[BertSquirtgum]

Jeff Tuel sucks.

[jpdex12]

Jesus Chri$t, we were the fourth team he was cut from. Seriously? He couldn't beat out Terrell Pryor and Flynn has been in the league a lot longer. If his experience and an ounce of athletic ability couldn't help him beat out an undrafted FA college screw up who could never throw, why ask why? I can't believe this post is up to three pages long. Why waste your time arguing about some hack who should have gotten a start over our 3rd string QB? Who cares? It's one game. It's not like we need Flynn to start every game and finish our season. Tuel has been with us since April and we expect the Bills to start a QB that never had a chance in the league, with four years experience (none within our system), who can't keep a job with the only four teams he's been with in the league, to start with one week of practice with the team? That is idiotic! Fricken seriously? It's getting bad here. I really enjoyed coming to this site to get good news and worth while info but this is just awful. This site is set up really well. Great graphics, features, etc. but some of the crap posted in the last year seems to be ruining the popularity of this site.

[TacklingDummy]

The Bills are a QB away from 9-0. All our QBs blow.
When you have 5 QBs you really have none.

[Rockstar]

If it wasn't for one horrible mistake most everyone would be happy with Tuel. I'm willing to see if he learned from that mistake.


Eh, I promise I’m not picking a fight but first of all that “one mistake” was in the endzone. Nothing else on the field matters for an offensive player, and 2. No, that wasn’t even close to his only mistake. The guy can’t throw a pass over the middle without floating it, and correct me if I’m wrong I literally heard him audible runs plays by calling left and right. Granted the one time he played a little game and ran right after calling audible left, but really? Left and right in the NFL??? </SPAN>

[Rockstar]

I'd rather have Tuel than Flynn as the THIRD QB.

They (The Bills) aren't going to say all of the good things they've said about Tuel, and then just cut him after one game.

Flynn was obviously insurance, and couldn't beat out an undrafted rookie to start when he had the chance. He sucks.

Even though I hate Tool (yes tool) your logic is flawless and I can't argue.. (no sarcasm)

[Rockstar]

This is where I begin to hate marrone

Please tell me this is just an emotional over reaction. I can understand that. If not? What the hell are you thinking? Marrone has put together the first competent coaching staff this team has seen in years (although special teams is an issue) he is passionate, motivating, and has this team who lost their top two QB's in the first game of the season playing toe to toe with everyone but the Saints. (and our the offensive line sucked in that game)

[WagonCircler]

Please tell me this is just an emotional over reaction. I can understand that. If not? What the hell are you thinking? Marrone has put together the first competent coaching staff this team has seen in years (although special teams is an issue) he is passionate, motivating, and has this team who lost their top two QB's in the first game of the season playing toe to toe with everyone but the Saints. (and our the offensive line sucked in that game)

Marrone chose to go into the season with three QBs who had roughly zero NFL experience.

I don't dislike Marrone, but he's currently sleeping in a bed of his own making.

[Rockstar]

Why not put Tuel on the practice squad and keep Flynn as the 3rd? Then you don't have to get rid of either.

Bro, are you serious? Flynn doesn't know the offense. Why the hell would you put tuel on the practice squad right now with two injured QB's ahead of him and keep a guy who has been dumped by two other teams and doesn't know our team, players, tendencies, playbook, how to even get to the stadium? Come on man!

[Rockstar]

Marrone chose to go into the season with three QBs who had roughly zero NFL experience.

I don't dislike Marrone, but he's currently sleeping in a bed of his own making.

True to a point but obviously you remember that Kevin Kolb was our backup. Nobody expected him to last only one play. I think Marrone had a great plan on paper. First round draft pick starts, proven vet backup and a third stringer with supposed potential (Tuel) Sounds like a decent plan to me.

I know lots of people don't like Kolb but I loved him to be our backup. Partly because he look good backing up Michael Vick. Of course anyone that can throw a decent NFL pass looks good coming in for Vick (I never bought the hype on him)

[WagonCircler]

They needed to make a move the day Kolb went down (preseason), but they decided that going into the season with Manuel (0 NFL starts) and Tuel (0 NFL starts) was sufficient. And their plan B was Thad Lewis, who is as accurate as a 1990 Iraqi Scud missile.

[Rockstar]

Jesus Chri$t, we were the fourth team he was cut from. Seriously? He couldn't beat out Terrell Pryor and Flynn has been in the league a lot longer. If his experience and an ounce of athletic ability couldn't help him beat out an undrafted FA college screw up who could never throw, why ask why? I can't believe this post is up to three pages long. Why waste your time arguing about some hack who should have gotten a start over our 3rd string QB? Who cares? It's one game. It's not like we need Flynn to start every game and finish our season. Tuel has been with us since April and we expect the Bills to start a QB that never had a chance in the league, with four years experience (none within our system), who can't keep a job with the only four teams he's been with in the league, to start with one week of practice with the team? That is idiotic! Fricken seriously? It's getting bad here. I really enjoyed coming to this site to get good news and worth while info but this is just awful. This site is set up really well. Great graphics, features, etc. but some of the crap posted in the last year seems to be ruining the popularity of this site.

Good post and I agree with everything except the last part. I was a 9 year member of the Buffalo Range and a regular contributor (meaning donations) I was banned for life for posting on this site and suggesting that I might leave the Range due to popular posters being banned for no reason over there.

I never so much as received a warning in a almost a decade over there. Popularity problem here? No, this place is just fine for me.

[Rockstar]

They needed to make a move the day Kolb went down (preseason), but they decided that going into the season with Manuel (0 NFL starts) and Tuel (0 NFL starts) was sufficient. And their plan B was Thad Lewis, who is as accurate as a 1990 Iraqi Scud missile.

Well, I do remember when Kolb went down thinking that we need to get somebody. And I remember thinking WTF are we doing not getting another vet to fill in. So yeh, that's on management and maybe Marrone, although for a Scud, Lewis has done as well as a third string guy can be expected and played through banged up ribs last week. The guy has heart. I believe we would have beat KC with him at the helm.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Literally the day he is cut Aaron Rodgers gets injured. If Flynn gets signed back to Green Bay I'd die laughing.

[WagonCircler]

Well, I do remember when Kolb went down thinking that we need to get somebody. And I remember thinking WTF are we doing not getting another vet to fill in. So yeh, that's on management and maybe Marrone, although for a Scud, Lewis has done as well as a third string guy can be expected and played through banged up ribs last week. The guy has heart. I believe we would have beat KC with him at the helm.

But not good enough. He has the exact same problems as EJ, but with less talent. He's horribly inaccurate, has piss poor mechanics and is careless with the football.

He's exactly the same guy as Joe Dufek and Matt Kofler were. The same as Alex Van Pelt (but not as good, not even close). Very similar to Trent Edwards and Losman and Fitz. Occasional glimpses of promise, fatal inconsistency.

With the possible exception of Manuel, this isn't a group of QBs who just aren't ready yet. They're just not good.

Put a guy like Alex Smith in a Bills uniform, I think they make the playoffs. Go into a season with this group of stiffs at QB, they go 6-10.

[Rockstar]

But not good enough. He has the exact same problems as EJ, but with less talent. He's horribly inaccurate, has piss poor mechanics and is careless with the football.

He's exactly the same guy as Joe Dufek and Matt Kofler were. The same as Alex Van Pelt (but not as good, not even close). Very similar to Trent Edwards and Losman and Fitz. Occasional glimpses of promise, fatal inconsistency.

With the possible exception of Manuel, this isn't a group of QBs who just aren't ready yet. They're just not good.

Put a guy like Alex Smith in a Bills uniform, I think they make the playoffs. Go into a season with this group of stiffs at QB, they go 6-10.

I don't disagree with any of that except I don't appreciate throwing Fitzy in with Losman and Edwards. They were special kind of bad. I mean, maybe in pure football skills it's the same category but there is nothing likable with Losman and Edwards, and I doubt their heart and leadership. I love Fitzy, even if he was bad. Players liked him and he was all heart. Hell, I would take him as a backup right now with this running game, and a real defense, and better coaches he could have beaten KC.

[better days]

This makes the least sense out of any post I've read on here. If he did enough to win the game the Bills would have one the game. His awful play was the main reason the Bills lost the game. It is that simple. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand. He had ZERO upside. You're a real clown if you truly believe this guy is going to amount to anything in this league.

For 99.5 % of the game Tuel played VERY GOOD. His play OVER ALL was NOT awful. He made just a FEW bad plays that cost the Bills the game.

And ANYONE that does not see Tuel has REAL upside is the REAL CLOWN.

[better days]

I don't disagree with any of that except I don't appreciate throwing Fitzy in with Losman and Edwards. They were special kind of bad. I mean, maybe in pure football skills it's the same category but there is nothing likable with Losman and Edwards, and I doubt their heart and leadership. I love Fitzy, even if he was bad. Players liked him and he was all heart. Hell, I would take him as a backup right now with this running game, and a real defense, and better coaches he could have beaten KC.

Fitz could have beat KC. He also could have lost the game to KC. He has NO ARM at all to complete even intermediate passes.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Put a guy like Alex Smith in a Bills uniform, I think they make the playoffs. Go into a season with this group of stiffs at QB, they go 6-10.

I agree that a solid vet (NOT Kolb) would have done much better with this team, but Alex Smith specifically would have been a bad choice IMO. Our wideout corps is really, really small and we need Graham and Goodwin running deep to keep everything open. Smith doesn't throw bombs and I think we would have struggled if he just kept working underneath.


I don't disagree with any of that except I don't appreciate throwing Fitzy in with Losman and Edwards. They were special kind of bad. I mean, maybe in pure football skills it's the same category but there is nothing likable with Losman and Edwards, and I doubt their heart and leadership. I love Fitzy, even if he was bad. Players liked him and he was all heart. Hell, I would take him as a backup right now with this running game, and a real defense, and better coaches he could have beaten KC.

Fitz DID beat KC with worse coaches and a worse defense. He pulled their pants down on their own field in 2011 and followed it up with another ass whupping in 2012. In 2010, it took them 5 full quarters to score 13 points on us at home.

[better days]

I agree that a solid vet (NOT Kolb) would have done much better with this team, but Alex Smith specifically would have been a bad choice IMO. Our wideout corps is really, really small and we need Graham and Goodwin running deep to keep everything open. Smith doesn't throw bombs and I think we would have struggled if he just kept working underneath.



Fitz DID beat KC with worse coaches and a worse defense. He pulled their pants down on their own field in 2011 and followed it up with another ass whupping in 2012. In 2010, it took them 5 full quarters to score 13 points on us at home.

NO offensive TD's by the Chiefs offense all game, even with a short field a few times.

Smith is Fitz 2.0

[IlluminatusUIUC]

NO offensive TD's by the Chiefs offense all game, even with a short field a few times.

Smith is Fitz 2.0

Smith is not like Fitz at all. Fitz took gambles all the time, which is why he could throw 4 TDs or 4 INTs on any given Sunday. Smith never does that.

[feldspar]

They needed to make a move the day Kolb went down (preseason), but they decided that going into the season with Manuel (0 NFL starts) and Tuel (0 NFL starts) was sufficient. And their plan B was Thad Lewis, who is as accurate as a 1990 Iraqi Scud missile.

Actually, the Bills signed Matt Leinart the day after Kolb went down...and they also actually TRADED for Thad Lewis on the same day. Dunno if some people don't realize it, but the Bills traded for Thad Lewis with Detroit. They traded LB Chris White for him.

They were looking at guys like John Beck. I mean, what QB was available that was any good? The season was about to start in two short weeks...there was nobody out there, really.

[better days]

Actually, the Bills signed Matt Leinart the day after Kolb went down...and they also actually TRADED for Thad Lewis on the same day. Dunno if some people don't realize it, but the Bills traded for Thad Lewis with Detroit. They traded LB Chris White for him.

They were looking at guys like John Beck. I mean, what QB was available that was any good? The season was about to start in two short weeks...there was nobody out there, really.

The mistake was to cut TJax & put Kolb on IR. The Bills should have had one of those guys as a fall back option.

[Albany,n.y.]

The mistake was to cut TJax & put Kolb on IR. The Bills should have had one of those guys as a fall back option.

You're 1 and 1 on this. Absolute mistake cutting Jackson that early before Kolb made it past pre-season. Had to put Kolb on IR-he's done & will never play again.

[better days]

You're 1 and 1 on this. Absolute mistake cutting Jackson that early before Kolb made it past pre-season. Had to put Kolb on IR-he's done & will never play again.

I don't know about Kolb. I think there are guys playing that have had as many concussions.

He would have to be cleared by Dr's. but if not on IR, Kolb should have been able to play when EJ was injured.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Tuel did enough to win the game, but he was also responsible for losing it.

He is an undrafted ROOKIE QB with a HIGH upside & anyone SHOULD be able to see that after the Chiefs game.

Tuel is THE reason why the Chiefs won on Sunday. Their offense got them 9 points, their defense could not stop our run, and all Tuel had to do was play it safe. He threw two INTs that resulted in 10 points for the Chiefs. One of those was the pick six and if that is a 3 for us then we win an ugly of ugly 17 to 16 type of game.

[Albany,n.y.]

Tuel is THE reason why the Chiefs won on Sunday. Their offense got them 9 points, their defense could not stop our run, and all Tuel had to do was play it safe. He threw two INTs that resulted in 10 points for the Chiefs. One of those was the pick six and if that is a 3 for us then we win an ugly of ugly 17 to 16 type of game.

Lets examine the actual game. Score was 23-13. If you want Tuel to play it safe delete the 7 points from the TD to Goodwin, add the 3 points to the Bills for the P6 & for KC subtract the 10 points from the Tuel INTs. That leaves the score 13-9 & the Chiefs still win because Graham can't hold on to the ball.
Conclusion: Tuel alone isn't THE reason KC won.

[JoeMama]

Fitz could have beat KC. He also could have lost the game to KC. He has NO ARM at all to complete even intermediate passes.

Fitz owned KC.

At least he had that going for him.

[BertSquirtgum]

For 99.5 % of the game Tuel played VERY GOOD. His play OVER ALL was NOT awful. He made just a FEW bad plays that cost the Bills the game.

And ANYONE that does not see Tuel has REAL upside is the REAL CLOWN.

99.5% ahahahahahaha.

[GvilleBills]

True to a point but obviously you remember that Kevin Kolb was our backup. Nobody expected him to last only one play. I think Marrone had a great plan on paper. First round draft pick starts, proven vet backup and a third stringer with supposed potential (Tuel) Sounds like a decent plan to me.

I know lots of people don't like Kolb but I loved him to be our backup. Partly because he look good backing up Michael Vick. Of course anyone that can throw a decent NFL pass looks good coming in for Vick (I never bought the hype on him)

That's the only arrow I'll sling at Marrone: EVERYONE knew how fragile Kolb was, and he chose to cut TJax (plays with broken legs, etc.). And this was after Jackson was the most impressive QB at the camp.

And maybe the Crossman hire...but that's it. Very excited for the future with this team.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Literally the day he is cut Aaron Rodgers gets injured. If Flynn gets signed back to Green Bay I'd die laughing.

Aaaaaaaaand he is!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/11/packers-to-sign-matt-flynn/

LMAO

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Literally the day he is cut Aaron Rodgers gets injured. If Flynn gets signed back to Green Bay I'd die laughing.

Aaaaaaaaand he is!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/11/packers-to-sign-matt-flynn/

LMAO

[GvilleBills]

This dude golden parachutes into job after job...