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  • ghz in pittsburgh
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    • Aug 2004
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    Polian Talking about EJ's return

    Buffalo Bills quarterback EJ Manuel has been cleared by doctors to return from a knee injury that has sidelined the rookie for more than a month.


    Interesting that he talked about drills to avoid hard hits at the end of a slide or going out of bounds. Didn't realized Thurman had that training while at the Bills, though I thought those skills are more of a natural to players, not learned skills.
  • better days
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    Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

    Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...cleared-return

    Interesting that he talked about drills to avoid hard hits at the end of a slide or going out of bounds. Didn't realized Thurman had that training while at the Bills, though I thought those skills are more of a natural to players, not learned skills.
    Sliding is a learned skill. Hell, there are baseball players that don't know how to slide properly.

    IMO, when a QB voluntarily goes down, feet first or headfirst, he should be protected just as a defenseless WR is protected.

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    • The King
      Without me it's just Awe so
      • Jun 2004
      • 42380

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      Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

      Also training on this stuff will help it to become instinctual. Which with EJ it clearly is not.
      I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
      "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
      You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
      It was all
      true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
      He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
      mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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      • phil3782
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        • Apr 2013
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        Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

        It seemed that Hackett and Marrone had issues teaching this to Nassib at SU also. It took Nassib to his third year (Senior) to learn what to do outside the pocket like getting out of bounds, when to throw away the ball and how to slide. Hopefully, EJ learns this quicker.

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        • jimmifli
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          • Nov 2006
          • 7827

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          Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

          Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/99...cleared-return

          Interesting that he talked about drills to avoid hard hits at the end of a slide or going out of bounds. Didn't realized Thurman had that training while at the Bills, though I thought those skills are more of a natural to players, not learned skills.
          Thurman got some flak from fans back in the day for running out of bounds and not finishing runs.

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          • better days
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            • Jan 2010
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            Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

            Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
            Thurman got some flak from fans back in the day for running out of bounds and not finishing runs.
            Thurm's career probably lasted as long as it did because he was SMART enough to not take unnecessary hits.

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            • kscdogbillsfan1221
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              • Nov 2007
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              Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

              Originally posted by better days View Post
              Thurm's career probably lasted as long as it did because he was SMART enough to not take unnecessary hits.
              yea, he wasn't exactly jerome bettis. if memory serves me correctly, he was 5'10" and was around 185-190 pounds
              I came.
              I saw.
              I conquered.

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              • jimmifli
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                • Nov 2006
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                Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                Originally posted by better days View Post
                Thurm's career probably lasted as long as it did because he was SMART enough to not take unnecessary hits.
                Of course. Getting hit is stupid, especially if you don't need to. Once you've got the first down, that extra yard or two just isn't worth it. Step out or get down.

                I was glad to see CJ make for the sideline on his runs. That lil' feller doesn't need to take anymore punishment.

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                • Rockstar
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                  Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                  I remember Thermal (yes Chris Berman Thermal) playing at 210lbs. Anyway, Thomas did run out of bounds but never when we needed a yard. He was the master of turning nothing into something. Squirmin Thurman earned that nic-name because he would get hit at the line of scrimmage and still get three yards. He had quads like a lineman and used them when we needed it as a team.

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                  • better days
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                    Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                    Originally posted by Rockstar View Post
                    I remember Thermal (yes Chris Berman Thermal) playing at 210lbs. Anyway, Thomas did run out of bounds but never when we needed a yard. He was the master of turning nothing into something. Squirmin Thurman earned that nic-name because he would get hit at the line of scrimmage and still get three yards. He had quads like a lineman and used them when we needed it as a team.
                    I was the Bills GM in a mock draft on WDAE Tampa the year Thurm was drafted.

                    I picked Thurm for the Bills & was ELATED when the Bills drafted him for real.

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                    • OLDSRIP
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                      • Dec 2008
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                      Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                      There is not much you can criticize about Thurman's game.
                      He was a great all around back.
                      One of my favorites from back then, for sure.

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                      • stuckincincy
                        Buffalo Bills Fan
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 15084

                        #12
                        Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                        Manuel was making a play. Too bad he got his knee bummed up. What's not to like about a player making the play, going for the yards?
                        Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                        • better days
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                          Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                          Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                          Manuel was making a play. Too bad he got his knee bummed up. What's not to like about a player making the play, going for the yards?
                          What's not to like? How about the QB getting INJURED picking up a few unnecessary yds.

                          QB is the most vital & hard to replace position in the NFL.

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                          • stuckincincy
                            Buffalo Bills Fan
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 15084

                            #14
                            Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                            Originally posted by better days View Post
                            What's not to like? How about the QB getting INJURED picking up a few unnecessary yds.

                            QB is the most vital & hard to replace position in the NFL.
                            He was heading to the sidelines with gaining decent yards and got an unfortunate pop. So what? - things happen. What do want? Toss the ball into the sidelines if there is a sniff of getting whacked in the pocket? Roll out and if there is a defender, a few yards away, forget making a nifty juke and just rifle the ball into the ground?

                            He's a rookie. He has happy feet. Do you want to turn him into a nervous nilly, cowering in fear of injury?
                            Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                            • Rockstar
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                              Re: Polian Talking about EJ's return

                              Originally posted by OLDSRIP View Post
                              There is not much you can criticize about Thurman's game.
                              He was a great all around back.
                              One of my favorites from back then, for sure.
                              Quite simply he is one the best all purpose backs of all time.

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