Bills are 3-7

[DesertFox24]

I am well aware we are what are record says we are but all this EJ hate is crazy to me.

We are a dropped Stevie Johnson pass away from probably beating the pats

We are a healthy Gilmore and McKelvin away from beating the jets

Had EJ not got hurt against Cleveland I am convinced we win that game

Had EJ or Thad started I am sure we beat KC

Yes I am aware this is the NFL, but to say EJ sucks and is not the guy and never will be is crazy. He was beating the pats when they were healthy on Def and was moving the ball well at certain points.

A great come from behind win against the panthers

Got us back into the jet game

Was moving the ball really well against Cleveland with both RBs injuired and hobbled

Did very well against the Ravens and won the game

Had a horrendous game against one of the best Def minded coaches to every coach.

So I will go this way good or bad

Pats - good
Panthers - good
Jets - bad
Ravens - good
Browns - good
Steelers - bad

4 good games for a rookie QB and 2 bad games for our rookie QB, lets see what the guy does after 20 starts.

[Skooby]

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If you watched the last game, it pretty much eliminated any good feelings about EJ.

[Mr. Pink]

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Ravens, good?!?

He had a QBR of 9 in that game. Yes. NINE.

1 TD 2 INTs 45%

[DesertFox24]

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If you watched the last game, it pretty much eliminated any good feelings about EJ.

Yeah it was a bad and horrible game no doubt, and this week will probably not be pretty either.

I am hoping though we see after the bye what we were seeing in the Cleveland game, a guy who is moving the chains and making some plays. That 4 week injury really hurt his development and also hurt the off development because we are back to running plays that were on film early in the season and they have not been able to expand the playbook because he is still very very inexperienced.

[DesertFox24]

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Ravens, good?!?

He had a QBR of 9 in that game. Yes. NINE.

1 TD 2 INTs 45%

He was 10-22 for 167 as well and played well enough for us to win the game.

I am not going completely off stats by the way, he made some good throws early in the game that got us the lead and then the bills went a little too conservative which hurt him a bit.

[Mr. Pink]

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He was 10-22 for 167 as well and played well enough for us to win the game.

I am not going completely off stats by the way, he made some good throws early in the game that got us the lead and then the bills went a little too conservative which hurt him a bit.

They won in spite of him. 5 takeaways. 200 yards rushing.

He also lost a fumble in that game. He accounted for all 3 Bills turnovers.

If that's a good performance, I don't see how Sunday's start also wouldn't be good.

[Novacane]

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Ravens, good?!?

He had a QBR of 9 in that game. Yes. NINE.

1 TD 2 INTs 45%

His rating against Baltimore 48.9. His worst rating game so far but not a 9.

[GvilleBills]

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I think people want EJ to be the answer so bad that the spin doctoring is out of control.
Use less heart (use EJ as inspiration, he has no heart), and more eyes.

[better days]

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They won in spite of him. 5 takeaways. 200 yards rushing.

He also lost a fumble in that game. He accounted for all 3 Bills turnovers.

If that's a good performance, I don't see how Sunday's start also wouldn't be good.

Could be worse.....................could be raining. (Young Frankenstein)

Well, he did not turn the ball over 4 times to lose the game.

Anytime you WIN the game, it was a good performance.

EJ did enough to win that game.

[DesertFox24]

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I think people want EJ to be the answer so bad that the spin doctoring is out of control.
Use less heart (use EJ as inspiration, he has no heart), and more eyes.

No I call a spade a spade he has had some bad games and some good games, but to throw the book at the guy after 4 weeks off against a good pass defense (yes they are top 10 pass defense and embarrased Geno as well) is just as irrational as stating he is the franchise.

Give the guy 20 starts and lets judge week to week to see if there is improvement.

The steeler game was a definite regression from the cleveland game.

[GvilleBills]

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No I call a spade a spade he has had some bad games and some good games, but to throw the book at the guy after 4 weeks off against a good pass defense (yes they are top 10 pass defense and embarrased Geno as well) is just as irrational as stating he is the franchise.

Give the guy 20 starts and lets judge week to week to see if there is improvement.

The steeler game was a definite regression from the cleveland game.

If you indeed called a spade a spade, this thread doesn't exist. His shortcomings are the same from his first starts in college. He has shown no ability to improve in college.
He is regressing as a pro. When you have no heart, and speed through progressions to your dump off to avoid contact, the defenses in the NFL can smell ***** from a mile away.
He's so paralyzed, he can't even spin a football like he used to. He tries to place the ball instead looking like he is shot putting a paper airplane.
If he can't grow a set, we spent a first rounder on Trent Edwards.
You don't make a living as a QB in the League from your back foot.

[GvilleBills]

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5 games in, and you can count his "wow" throws with your shoes still on.

[ICRockets]

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Everybody agreed going into the draft that Geno Smith was more NFL-ready. The thing EJ Manuel fans saw was that he has more potential. That may be untrue, but arguing from incredulity is not a valid argument. I don't mind if you don't see it. But some of us do. Have faith.

[better days]

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Everybody agreed going into the draft that Geno Smith was more NFL-ready. The thing EJ Manuel fans saw was that he has more potential. That may be untrue, but arguing from incredulity is not a valid argument. I don't mind if you don't see it. But some of us do. Have faith.

I have faith in the Bills front office that drafted EJ, they saw something in him.

EJ is a BIG guy & has the measurables. Geno looked TERRIBLE in the pinstripe bowl. I don't think he is going to look too good on Sunday in Buffalo.

[Ingtar33]

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I have faith in the Bills front office that drafted EJ, they saw something in him.

EJ is a BIG guy & has the measurables. Geno looked TERRIBLE in the pinstripe bowl. I don't think he is going to look too good on Sunday in Buffalo.

what has the bills front office done in the last 15 years that gives you confidence that they know what they're doing? When i read stuff like this i am constantly amazed. This FO has pretty much shot all it's credibility. They need to have a stretch of success on the field before i'm willing to give them the benifit of the doubt over anything.

(and don't quote random draft successes... team success it the ultimate judge of a competent FO, as it demonstrates the total drafting and FA acumen of the regime... ours is not competent. Hitting on a few draft picks means nothing if they all leave after 4 years in town, and it means nothing if it doesn't translate into wins on the field, as they must be missing significantly on other picks to balance out the good)