Design The Next Bills Stadium, Location and Name Too Please

[BillsImpossible]

A new stadium must start being built within the next 7 or 8 years for the Bills franchise to remain viable. Time is not on our side, no it isn't Mick.

I introduce to you...

The new, "Rich Foods Stadium."

"Anchor Bar Stadium," or "Duff's Wings Stadium," would sound great but I don't think they could afford the naming rights.

Where to build it? Near Niagara Falls up in Niagara County with few roads, in the City of Buffalo, or right next to the old stadium in Orchard Park just like old times?

A lot of people think the Bills should build a new stadium near Niagara Falls to expand their fan base from up north in Toronto. The Toronto Series of games has proven that Canadians are hockey fans first and foremost, and always will be. They come here for the party, nothing more.

Traditionalists who want to keep the tailgating experience the best in the NFL want a new stadium built in Orchard Park, but it's soon to be 2014 and the NFL doesn't quite work like that anymore.

You're married to it, and it's all about the money, honey.

The answer is obvious. The next stadium should be built downtown. If the traffic sucks, oh well, just go to a nearby restaurant and sober up, which is probably better off for many Bills fans. If traffic is still slow after eating breakfast for dinner at the Towne Restaurant, just crash with your girl or sausage fest of a party in one of the many newly built hotels downtown - OR party some more in the hotel lobby bar baby yeh! Bills win!

By the time you wake up, traffic will be cleared and you can go directly from the hotel to work. Just don't forget to bring your razor or electric shaver on Sunday. Going to work on Monday in Bills gear that smells like a camp fire, beer, whiskey and pussycat perfume is fine just so long as they win and you make an honest attempt to shave.

Where can a new stadium be built in downtown Buffalo? How about tearing down Pilot Field and turning the now practically vacant One Seneca Tower into the world's biggest parking ramp/casino in one? Just kidding about the formerly known as HSBC Tower, but we all know that if the Bills build a big brand new stadium in downtown Buffalo, the Seneca Nation will want to be a part of it, as will many other business men and woman, and that's a good thing right Martha?

A retractable roof stadium in the heart of downtown Buffalo would be quite ideal, pretty much right next to the First Niagara Center. I don't want no dome, and I do want to be able to control the weather conditions if I happened to be the owner. Just can't imagine playing that first home game in early September on a beautiful day with a dome over my head. Talk about a Debbie Downer...her middle name is Dome.

Where would Bills fans tailgate besides alongside the inner harbor? Would Terry Pegula be open to the idea of letting Bills fans congregate inside of the FNC? So long as they don't start a fire, buy beer instead of BYOB, and don't start grilling steaks and sausages inside of the atrium on their own portable grilles, why not?

If the Seneca Nation, Byron Brown, Carl Paladino, and Terry Pegula can all get together and have a pauwau, we're good.

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Hey look, it's the Aud before it got torn down!

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Think BIG, Buffalo...or go home.

[clumping platelets]

Do you have a map of Toronto? :whistling

[stuckincincy]

How about Potter's Field? :blowup:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[jamze132]

It's called the Rogers Centre...

[Night Train]

Right next to the current one. Retractable Dome. 70,000 seats. No more Toronto games.

[Famous Amos]

Just know this that once that new stadium gets built, we will no longer have $50 ticket prices. Fans will have to pay Personal Seat Licenses. Tailgating will be a thing of the past. In other words, football in Buffalo will no longer be affordable. The average fan will get priced out.

Build it in Lewiston. Close to Canada, close to Rochester etc and so forth blah blah blah.

[Historian]

BillsZone.com Stadium!

[OpIv37]

This has already been done.

http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com

[DraftBoy]

PSL's for as far as the eye can see.

[sukie]

Either Waffle House Field or my personal ironic favorite... Bass Pro Park.

[OpIv37]

PSL's- what a ****ing joke. I wish we treated sports teams more like we treat other consumer products.

Can you imagine a supermarket doing this?
"In order to keep buying groceries here, you need to give us $10,000 over the next 20 years for a Permanent Shopping License. Of course, you will still have to pay for your groceries each time you come. Occasionally we will sell electronics or jewelry instead of groceries, and you will have the right to buy that stuff before anyone else. If you do not buy the PSL, you will be stuck buying whatever groceries are left (if any) when the people who did buy PSL's are done shopping, or illegally buying second hand groceries from PSL holders at inflated prices."

We'd tell that store to **** off and go shop somewhere else. That's what should have happened when the first team tried this lame ass idea. But, instead, fan loyalty got in the way and people just allowed themselves to be screwed.

[Novacane]

I'm pretty much resigned to the fact this team is going to Toronto when Ralph dies.

[Typ0]

Why do people shop at BJs and Sams club then?


PSL's- what a ****ing joke. I wish we treated sports teams more like we treat other consumer products.

Can you imagine a supermarket doing this?
"In order to keep buying groceries here, you need to give us $10,000 over the next 20 years for a Permanent Shopping License. Of course, you will still have to pay for your groceries each time you come. Occasionally we will sell electronics or jewelry instead of groceries, and you will have the right to buy that stuff before anyone else. If you do not buy the PSL, you will be stuck buying whatever groceries are left (if any) when the people who did buy PSL's are done shopping, or illegally buying second hand groceries from PSL holders at inflated prices."

We'd tell that store to **** off and go shop somewhere else. That's what should have happened when the first team tried this lame ass idea. But, instead, fan loyalty got in the way and people just allowed themselves to be screwed.

[DraftBoy]

PSL's- what a ****ing joke. I wish we treated sports teams more like we treat other consumer products.

Can you imagine a supermarket doing this?
"In order to keep buying groceries here, you need to give us $10,000 over the next 20 years for a Permanent Shopping License. Of course, you will still have to pay for your groceries each time you come. Occasionally we will sell electronics or jewelry instead of groceries, and you will have the right to buy that stuff before anyone else. If you do not buy the PSL, you will be stuck buying whatever groceries are left (if any) when the people who did buy PSL's are done shopping, or illegally buying second hand groceries from PSL holders at inflated prices."

We'd tell that store to **** off and go shop somewhere else. That's what should have happened when the first team tried this lame ass idea. But, instead, fan loyalty got in the way and people just allowed themselves to be screwed.

Umm...Costco, Sam's Club, BJ's...?

[OpIv37]

Why do people shop at BJs and Sams club then?

Because you can save more than the cost of the membership in one trip. If they want to make it like PSL's, BJ's or Sams would have to multiply the membership fee by about 10x then still charge full retail prices.

[OpIv37]

Either Waffle House Field or my personal ironic favorite... Bass Pro Park.

Love it, but I'd go with Bass Pro Memorial Park for that added irony.

[OpIv37]

Because you can save more than the cost of the membership in one trip. If they want to make it like PSL's, BJ's or Sams would have to multiply the membership fee by about 10x then still charge full retail prices.

Oh, and they'd have to take away your membership with no refund if you didn't shop there at least 10x a year.

[trapezeus]

not that i wish ill will on ralph, but we've been following this story for 20 years. there are blips of excitement both ways. at least in the last 5 years the dialogue has shifted to losing the team to toronto vs LA. And while i don't support that at all, it is a little easier to take. Somehow i feel like Toronto will honor the roots while LA would just look to have miley cyrus sitting in the crowd during commercial breaks.

and if the bills move out of buffalo, i hope the nfl gets absolutely clobbered with a region of fans abandoning the game. They might make fun of buffalo, we we do drive TV ratings like few of the major cities. We aren't free loaders, we do make that TV contract as large as it is.

If buffalonians and bills fans walk away enmasse, hopefully it impacts the bottom line of the NFL. The executives think the money will never run out. but the signs of lower peewee registrations over 5 years, the exhaustion of fans paying for essentially a fixed sport to keep boston fans in it (they abandon that team like a hot wet turd when they aren't winning), and constant gouging of tax dollars from wealthy men, has to hit a breaking point.

[Homegrown]

I'd built it in the city ... it would be an open air duel facility (for our MLB team) ... call it "War Memorial", since we've got our share of wars Memorialize ...beer and a hot dog for $1.50 (call it costco pricing)

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[Typ0]

Because you can save more than the cost of the membership in one trip. If they want to make it like PSL's, BJ's or Sams would have to multiply the membership fee by about 10x then still charge full retail prices.

That's not really true. It's a consumer needs/wants and price sensitivity/perception thing. If people will pay it then they will build it using that model. If they won't then they will have to use a different model.

[Ed]

PSL's- what a ****ing joke. I wish we treated sports teams more like we treat other consumer products.

Can you imagine a supermarket doing this?
"In order to keep buying groceries here, you need to give us $10,000 over the next 20 years for a Permanent Shopping License. Of course, you will still have to pay for your groceries each time you come. Occasionally we will sell electronics or jewelry instead of groceries, and you will have the right to buy that stuff before anyone else. If you do not buy the PSL, you will be stuck buying whatever groceries are left (if any) when the people who did buy PSL's are done shopping, or illegally buying second hand groceries from PSL holders at inflated prices."

We'd tell that store to **** off and go shop somewhere else. That's what should have happened when the first team tried this lame ass idea. But, instead, fan loyalty got in the way and people just allowed themselves to be screwed.
Football's a hell of a drug.

[OpIv37]

That's not really true. It's a consumer needs/wants and price sensitivity/perception thing. If people will pay it then they will build it using that model. If they won't then they will have to use a different model.

Well yeah... That was my whole point to begin with. There are few things in life- if anything at all- where people would tolerate this pricing model.

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That's not really true. It's a consumer needs/wants and price sensitivity/perception thing. If people will pay it then they will build it using that model. If they won't then they will have to use a different model.

Well yeah... That was my whole point to begin with. Other than football, there are few things in life- if anything at all- where people would tolerate this pricing model.

[K-Gun]

Here' my entry for new name: (Bass Pro) Stadium Bridge & Casino.

Somewhere along the 190 waterfront in downtown Buffalo lurks the perfect tract of land to build an all in one Bass Pro shop, waterfront stadium, new Peace Bridge and casino.

How perfect would it be if the bridge that comes from Canada lands in the parking lot of the new Bills staidium/Bass Pro super outlet and Seneca Casino?

[Historian]

Umm...Costco, Sam's Club, BJ's...?

GEX.....

[BillsImpossible]

Just know this that once that new stadium gets built, we will no longer have $50 ticket prices. Fans will have to pay Personal Seat Licenses. Tailgating will be a thing of the past. In other words, football in Buffalo will no longer be affordable. The average fan will get priced out.

Build it in Lewiston. Close to Canada, close to Rochester etc and so forth blah blah blah.

Bills fans have the cheapest ticket in the NFL. What I don't understand is how the Buffalo market shells out top dollar for Sabres tickets. Going to a single Sabres games costs at least twice as much as going to a Bills game. Their ticket prices are insane, but the building is still packed with season ticket holders and people paying over $200 for a ticket to watch a pretty much meaningless 2-1 hockey game out of 82.

The average fan got priced out, the team still sucks, and the building is full? Huh?

Bills fans get 7 games, the average ticket cost is less than $100 and it's affordable for the average fan.

Lewiston if beautiful, good idea, but where?

I don't think tailgating will ever go the way of the dinosaur in Buffalo no matter where the next stadium is built. If Sabres fans can tailgate before the game, and have a huge party outside, Bills fans can do it too. Would you be able to take a piss as freely in the many open woods and backyards of OP? Probably not. Would you be able to build a fire half the size of my house? Probably not. But I think a party in the new Inner Harbor with live music would be a cool pregame party to go to, and people will still find a way to drink beer, BBQ and have a lot of fun if a new stadium ever gets built.

If it were up to me and we all lived in a perfect world, I wouldn't change a thing. The experience at the Ralph is like no other. For how old the stadium is compared to the new billion dollar stadiums around the NFL, Ralph Wilson Stadium still looks great on TV - better than most. No other stadium in the league has the fans so close to the field. There's nothing wrong with what we've already got, it's our own Lambeau Field and I love it the way it is and could care less about what everyone else has, fancy new stadiums full of fans that suck!

The Buffalo Memorial Auditorium should have never been vacated. That place had more character and "bones," to it than the CrossroadsHSBCFirstNiagara Center ever will.

Makes me want a new stadium even less the more I think about it.

[kishoph]

IMO a downtown Buffalo stadium would be terrible, no more tailgating, insane traffic jams, higher ticket and concession prices and a stadium that will never match the sight lines of the Ralph. If a new stadium was to be built, put it right were the current one is.

[Mace]

Mace's Place, built right over the top of the Galleria so you can go downstairs and get a Yankee Candle at the half. 65,000 seats, added costs if you want a personal retractable roof over yours with a seat warmer which will be a crew of guys with blowtorches in walkways beneath the seats. If you're willing to man or woman up and sit in the elements you drink Natty Light free as long as you can stand but don't you try and be the driver out of my heavily secured lot unless you intend to work for us to pay off your offense. There will be lasers aimed at opponent QB's when not used for the light show, electrified handrails after the half in case you try my, er the organizations patience with your drunken shenanigans, and military quality security so everyone can watch the games naked if they choose. There will be no canned songs, the bands from the 80's will perform them live, if there is a safety against the opponents, everyone gets a coupon for a free seasonal candle, and every punt over 50 yards will bring a rain of slices of the tastiest pizza from the roof with a major pop band of the day lowered on hydraulics to the field to shoot Dunlop tire coupons on rubber darts at people.

I actually did the math on this and find it doable, though I am not real good at math, but I can't be bothered with people who have no sense of creative vision to nickel and dime me on dollars and cents.

The seats will be plenty plush, believe you me.

[clumping platelets]

The best location would be around Transit Rd/Thurway Exit 49 area.

Close promixity to hotels and airport. Easier commute for fans coming from the east and Niagara Co. Little to no change for those coming across the border. Those affected would be fans that live on southern tier


It's also really close to Dave & Busters for the Jets annual visit

[Famous Amos]

Bills fans have the cheapest ticket in the NFL. What I don't understand is how the Buffalo market shells out top dollar for Sabres tickets. Going to a single Sabres games costs at least twice as much as going to a Bills game. Their ticket prices are insane, but the building is still packed with season ticket holders and people paying over $200 for a ticket to watch a pretty much meaningless 2-1 hockey game out of 82.

The average fan got priced out, the team still sucks, and the building is full? Huh?

Bills fans get 7 games, the average ticket cost is less than $100 and it's affordable for the average fan.

Lewiston if beautiful, good idea, but where?

I don't think tailgating will ever go the way of the dinosaur in Buffalo no matter where the next stadium is built. If Sabres fans can tailgate before the game, and have a huge party outside, Bills fans can do it too. Would you be able to take a piss as freely in the many open woods and backyards of OP? Probably not. Would you be able to build a fire half the size of my house? Probably not. But I think a party in the new Inner Harbor with live music would be a cool pregame party to go to, and people will still find a way to drink beer, BBQ and have a lot of fun if a new stadium ever gets built.

If it were up to me and we all lived in a perfect world, I wouldn't change a thing. The experience at the Ralph is like no other. For how old the stadium is compared to the new billion dollar stadiums around the NFL, Ralph Wilson Stadium still looks great on TV - better than most. No other stadium in the league has the fans so close to the field. There's nothing wrong with what we've already got, it's our own Lambeau Field and I love it the way it is and could care less about what everyone else has, fancy new stadiums full of fans that suck!

The Buffalo Memorial Auditorium should have never been vacated. That place had more character and "bones," to it than the CrossroadsHSBCFirstNiagara Center ever will.

Makes me want a new stadium even less the more I think about it.

That's a great point about the Sabres. Maybe the region could support more expensive Bills tickets. I guess I was speaking for myself, I've never been to a Sabres game simply because Ii feel like I can't afford the price of admission.

The way I see tailgating at a new Bills stadium is this: park your vehicle was $30 in our parking lot. Walk over to the "party tent/ zone/ fieldhouse," pay a $10 admission fee ( no reentry), and come tailgate by buying our beer for $7 a pop, our food for a high markup, and enjoy our tailgating experience, just like you remembered in the old days.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

I'd built it in the city ... it would be an open air duel facility (for our MLB team) ... call it "War Memorial", since we've got our share of wars Memorialize ...beer and a hot dog for $1.50 (call it costco pricing)

16715

Not very good at photoshop, but Marv Levy Field at (insert name of whatever corporate sponsor pays millions for naming rights to stadium) on the Lakefront. Then build it to be a larger version of the old War Memorial Stadium so that instead of 40,000 seats there are 65 to 68 thousand seats. Ring the Top of the seating area with luxury suites, a good lighting and sound system, and a large jumbotron above each endzone. Then have grass instead of turf.

[SpikedLemonade]

Ring the Top of the seating area with luxury suites....

Isn't that the problem in Buffalo? Where are these rich corporations to pay for expensive suites?

Don't count on Toronto corporations since they have no interest in entertaining their clients in Buffalo.

So a new owner in Buffalo has to sink $1B to buy the team and then even assuming taxpayers pay for a new stadium, how does he recoup his investment with a team in Buffalo?

Ralph bought the team for $25K and no debt on the team.

[better days]

Not very good at photoshop, but Marv Levy Field at (insert name of whatever corporate sponsor pays millions for naming rights to stadium) on the Lakefront. Then build it to be a larger version of the old War Memorial Stadium so that instead of 40,000 seats there are 65 to 68 thousand seats. Ring the Top of the seating area with luxury suites, a good lighting and sound system, and a large jumbotron above each endzone. Then have grass instead of turf.

So you like to sit behind pillars?

[Generalissimus Gibby]

So you like to sit behind pillars?

I'm sure with modern construction techniques that we could reduce the number of pillars to one. . . . And you'd get season tickets -- non resellable, refundable, or transferable to anyone else but you -- for life right behind it. :D

Seriously though, I'm sure they could build an awning without a maze of pillars.

[better days]

I'm sure with modern construction techniques that we could reduce the number of pillars to one. . . . And you'd get season tickets -- non resellable, refundable, or transferable to anyone else but you -- for life right behind it. :D

Seriously though, I'm sure they could build an awning without a maze of pillars.

Well, I thought you wanted to recreate the Rockpile.

That Stadium was designed for baseball. It was a TERRIBLE Stadium for football.

The Ralph is SO MUCH BETTER, there is NO comparison.

I still think the best thing for Buffalo & Bills fans, is to keep upgrading the Ralph.

You can not build a new Stadium with better sight lines than the Ralph has.