Sabres GDT (perpetual)

[Skooby]

Just thought I start one to cover the bases for a while.

[coastal]

Good thought... I approve.

MitchMurrayDowntown karma!

[JATMtheJATM]

enroth going in goal tonight.

[coastal]

He's an AHL player.

[JATMtheJATM]

everyones an AHL player!

[Downinfloflo]

Be nice if the Sabres could win in regulation tonight.

[JATMtheJATM]

Be nice if the Sabres could win in regulation tonight.

yer telling me!

big fight by foligno.

john scott is out there.

coastal, john scott is not an AHL player. hes an ECHL player.

[DetDannyWilliams]

WHOA LOL Foligno huge right :box: T.K.O.!

[JATMtheJATM]

im liking luke adam.

[DetDannyWilliams]

im liking luke adam.
Use the force Luke

[JATMtheJATM]

gelinas just stood there and girgs stole the puck! that was odd.

[JATMtheJATM]

damn. enroth with a good game at least.

[OpIv37]

Sabres give up one goal... And lose. This team is a ****ing joke.

[Downinfloflo]

Sabres give up one goal... And lose. This team is a ****ing joke.

You got a solid 4 more seasons of this...You might want to settle in.

[JATMtheJATM]

i think thats excessive. itll be 16-17 that they return to the playoffs. next year and this year will be the bottom.

[OpIv37]

You got a solid 4 more seasons of this...You might want to settle in.

Well, I don't expect this team to be good anytime soon, but I don't think it will take them four years to avoid1-0 losses.

[JATMtheJATM]

shoot, thats a bold claim. if player development goes the way it should, and they draft high the next two years and draft impact players, 16-17 could be a season they return to the post season.

but i think expecting 5 years of this is pretty dramatic too.

[coastal]

5 years to compete for something meaningful.

[Skooby]

I think we should bring in Gilbert Perr.... To run the beer stand, everyone were bringing back hasn't done a good job yet so lets keep trying.

[JATMtheJATM]

5 years to compete for something meaningful.

i have some expectations that the team will be competitive within a few years. but i expect next year to be real rough again. by 15-16, some of the youth will be coming around.

[Skooby]

i have some expectations that the team will be competitive within a few years. but i expect next year to be real rough again. by 15-16, some of the youth will be coming around.

I wouldn't hold my breathe.

[JATMtheJATM]

does anyone have a feed?

[JATMtheJATM]

mcnabb/grigo/flynn scratched.

mcnabb has been pretty good so far. so i dont really get why hes out while mcbain and weber get time. not a mcbain fan.

[coastal]

Did u see the wonderful D play by the guy who allegedly has turned the corner.

hes just so suspect defensively.

[JATMtheJATM]

Did u see the wonderful D play by the guy who allegedly has turned the corner.

hes just so suspect defensively.

i saw it. he was soft on the play.

[JATMtheJATM]

Did u see the wonderful D play by the guy who allegedly has turned the corner.

hes just so suspect defensively.

wasnt it you that was preaching a defensive players worth using advanced stats?

[JATMtheJATM]

jesus christ first row sports is a steaming pile of ****.

[coastal]

wasnt it you that was preaching a defensive players worth using advanced stats?who's butt hurt now?

[Downinfloflo]

First row??

http://atdhe.xxx/hockey/watch-new-york-rangers-buffalo-sabre-4ic6c

[JATMtheJATM]

who's butt hurt now?

not me, advanced stats, the one you used to tout pysyks good season have shown that not only has myers turned it around, hes actually been one of the sabres best d-men the last 10 games.

so, im certainly not going to worry about 1 play overall. disappointed it resulted in a goal, but that happens now and then.

[JATMtheJATM]

First row??

http://atdhe.xxx/hockey/watch-new-york-rangers-buffalo-sabre-4ic6c

now were talking.

[JATMtheJATM]

nevermind. you cant even close the popups.

[Downinfloflo]

It's you...Up grade!!!

[JATMtheJATM]

It's you...Up grade!!!

both X's on the last pop ups are just "hidden links"

[Downinfloflo]

20 links to choose from... http://atdhe.eu/


But this games over!!

[JATMtheJATM]

20 links to choose from... http://atdhe.eu/


But this games over!!

yeah it is.

[JATMtheJATM]

i have the same glove as lundqvist. not the same brand, but the same build. that makes us linked somehow.

[JATMtheJATM]

ennis from girgs. nice!

[coastal]

Ahl player

[Downinfloflo]

Off Stralmans stick...

Him and Girardi have deflected in at least 6 goals on Henrik so far this season.

[JATMtheJATM]

Off Stralmans stick...

Him and Girardi have deflected in at least 6 goals on Henrik so far this season.

those will happen. henrik looked quite disappointed.

i really want to get a hold of a henrik goal stick. i wanna try out his grip. i think as a paddle down goalie, id like it.

[OpIv37]

I forgot to put the game on the radio while I was driving home. Guess I didn't miss much.

I didn't expect much this season but I didn't expect this degree of utter incompetence.

[JATMtheJATM]

I forgot to put the game on the radio while I was driving home. Guess I didn't miss much.

I didn't expect much this season but I didn't expect this degree of utter incompetence.

eh, it was a pretty close game till the end. they didnt get blown out, they didnt get woefully out shot. they just lost to a better team.

[OpIv37]

They're only 8th in the conf so they certainly aren't unbeatable.

We are 7 points behind the next worse team in the league. Our goal differential is -39, the next worst team is -31.

We've scored the fewest goals- Philly is 2nd worse and they have 14 more goals with a game in hand.

We are embarrassingly bad.

[JATMtheJATM]

They're only 8th in the conf so they certainly aren't unbeatable.

We are 7 points behind the next worse team in the league. Our goal differential is -39, the next worst team is -31.

We've scored the fewest goals- Philly is 2nd worse and they have 14 more goals with a game in hand.

We are embarrassingly bad.

oh, they are bad. make no mistake. but its not like they lost 8-1. at least they were slightly competitive.

[Downinfloflo]

Sabres are on pace to break this record.



Fewest Goals: 133, by the 1953–54 Chicago Blackhawks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953%E2%80%9354_Chicago_Black_Hawks_season)

[JATMtheJATM]

Sabres are on pace to break this record.



Fewest Goals: 133, by the 1953–54 Chicago Blackhawks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953%E2%80%9354_Chicago_Black_Hawks_season)



oye vey! what a painful season this is.

[JATMtheJATM]

girgs scores. 1-1.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Girgensons is developing well. I like his game.

[JATMtheJATM]

sabres win in a shootout! nice win, boys..

girgs with a nice move. he is starting to develop the offensive game.

[coastal]

Girgs is going to be a keeper.

[JATMtheJATM]

i also liked mcnabbs game. i think hes a keeper too.

[SkateZilla]

We have more Shootout Wins than ROW Wins.

[JATMtheJATM]

oh for ****s sake, enough of scott, nolan.

[JATMtheJATM]

ennis has scored in 3 of his last 4 games and has had several chances tonight. hes heating up.

[Meathead]

team played well tonite, one of those nights they deserved better

nolan sure is giving scott a chance to be a real player. scotts not nearly as much a liability as he was before and it sure would be nice to have his gargantuanism routinely in the lineup but hes still got some ground to go to be reliable enough to do that

[coastal]

Girgs and Pysyck.. solid pieces to the puzzle.

[JATMtheJATM]

Girgs and Pysyck.. solid pieces to the puzzle.

we have a few

nolan needs to play mcnabb. hes been real solid, IMO, and a half of season of bad hockey, one year ago, doesnt negate the talent he has, nor the long periods of good hockey he has played to get passed up in depth chart. mcnabb is very much a realistic long term piece of the puzzle of himself.

/rant

sit scott, maybe even trade a d-man to allow room for mcnabb to play in the line up night in and night out. mcbain is not a long term answer.

[coastal]

Agreed... to me the one who you look to move is Myers.

With Risto and Zad , he's not a longterm piece in my view. He may have some value to another team looking for a puck moving defensemen.

[JATMtheJATM]

Agreed... to me the one who you look to move is Myers.

With Risto and Zad , he's not a longterm piece in my view. He may have some value to another team looking for a puck moving defensemen.

obviously, i disagree, but thats where ill leave it. in a rebuild, i would even consider moving ehrhoff, even though yes, he is, night in and night out the sabres best d-man. i think he could get you a large return. at 31, i dont think hes a long term part of the rebuild, despite the contract, because his play will begin to decline as the sabres get good.

[coastal]

I like Erhoff for the vet presence.

[JATMtheJATM]

I like Erhoff for the vet presence.

i never looked at ehrhoff as that kinda vet. take someone under his wing kinda guy. leadership. i always thought he was just a good player, nothing more, nothing less.

[coastal]

i never looked at ehrhoff as that kinda vet. take someone under his wing kinda guy. leadership. i always thought he was just a good player, nothing more, nothing less.
Lead by example

[JATMtheJATM]

Lead by example

i just think if a team like, lets say edmonton offers you a first for ehrhoff, you take it. rebuilding team, why not, ya know? i wouldnt trade him just to trade him. but if you can acquire assets to help the long term rebuild, id do it.

[coastal]

I agree but if it's in a situation where I could chose Myers or Erhoff... I'm keeping Erhoff.

[Crisis]

Why do we have to choose between the two? Keep both. They're not part of the problem.

[JATMtheJATM]

I agree but if it's in a situation where I could chose Myers or Erhoff... I'm keeping Erhoff.

im keeping myers. so much talent and potential and hes still young. unless the offer was top flight.

the problem im noticing with myers is this. his play has been much better overall. going by corsi, he was the sabres top dman last night. but, it seems every game, he has one hiccup. where he lets a guy cruise in and goes soft for like 3 seconds. and in that short let down period, its exposed and it leads to a goal. happened last night. it happens only maybe once a night. gotta quit doing that. the efforts there, hes getting more physical. hes carrying the puck, his position is better, hes blocking shots. hes just gotta eliminate that one hiccup.

outside that, his game has been good. hes close. if the sabres could score, he wouldnt be such a minus. same goes for pysyk. hes been great.

if im the sabres, i try to move mcbain or sulzer or even weber. make room for mcnabb full time.

[JATMtheJATM]

net comes off, puck goes in. the 2013 buffalo sabres!

[JATMtheJATM]

net comes off, puck goes in. the 2013 buffalo sabres!

i believe it was leino too. of course.

[JATMtheJATM]

foligno with 3 minors today.

myers hits the post short handed.

[JATMtheJATM]

moulson from girgs. girgs. wow. im loving this kid.

enroth having a strong game too. i like d'agostini too.

mccormick done for the day with a UBI.

[coastal]

moulson from girgs. girgs. wow. im loving this kid.

enroth having a strong game too. i like d'agostini too.

mccormick done for the day with a UBI.yeah... Girgs is pretty badass.

[JATMtheJATM]

you may not want to hear this, but myers had an outstanding game today.

[Crisis]

Hopefully Girgs can turn into a Peca type.

[JATMtheJATM]

Hopefully Girgs can turn into a Peca type.

brind amour.

and i dont mean brind amour in the early 90s when he would get 70-90 points a year.

45-60 points a year while playing GREAT defensive hockey and being a tireless worker. he also has the same work ethic. apparently they are both gym rats, who will even work out hardcore after games.

[Crisis]

you just described peca

[JATMtheJATM]

you just described peca

i always put peca a tier below rod the bod. and while peca could hit hard, i always thought he was more stay at home, more positional, where as girgs will work along the boards more (but my memory of peca has faded. maybe he was harder along the boards then i recall)

[coastal]

Girgs just has a complete game. He can work the boards, the dirty areas, can handle the puck, skate, shoot, pass. I'm really enjoying watching him. He's becoming a force out there that teams will begin to gameplay for.

i need to watch him in the defensive zone more.

and JATM... That was Myers best game of the season.

[JATMtheJATM]

Girgs just has a complete game. He can work the boards, the dirty areas, can handle the puck, skate, shoot, pass. I'm really enjoying watching him. He's becoming a force out there that teams will begin to gameplay for.

i need to watch him in the defensive zone more.

and JATM... That was Myers best game of the season.

i completely agree that was his best game. he looked downright dominant at times. he could of have 2 or more goals. fingers crossed he shows this game more often.

[JATMtheJATM]

0-0 after 20. i tried watching but i had to restart. it just wouldnt play. it will now.

[JATMtheJATM]

turnover by girgs and scheifele dances in while sulzer doesnt know what to do.

[JATMtheJATM]

scheifele walks in again, 2-0 jets.

d'aigostini turned it over. really REALLY bad play there.

[JATMtheJATM]

ott from stafford and weber!

[JATMtheJATM]

girgs has had a pretty rough game, turnover wise. these games happen.

[JATMtheJATM]

sabres score two quick ones. lead 3-2

[Skooby]

HMmm, what's happening tonight with this lead thing? 4-2, holy Toledo.

[Meathead]

coly hrap did u see matty ellis pick that puck out of the air, cradle it like its a lacrosse stick, and fling it into the top freakin corner?!? he couldnt do that if he tried a thousand times in practice but it looked fn ass cool right there

[JATMtheJATM]

johnson vs miller tonight. maybe the sabres will score a few goals again.

[SpikedLemonade]

No John Scott in the line up.

By far the worse National Anthem I have heard all season.

[SpikedLemonade]

WTF was the point of that fight? Frazer is not a fighter.

[JATMtheJATM]

lucic is a chicken ****. i am not disappointed when he gets injured. a genuine chicken **** of a player.

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FLYNNNNNNN! SHORTY!

[SpikedLemonade]

Well crap fans get a crap team.

[JATMtheJATM]

shots 7-6 in favor of boston.

that was flynns second career shorty.

[JATMtheJATM]

the hunchback is back to the box

[SpikedLemonade]

A shorty right back.

From the guy you love the most.

[JATMtheJATM]

fast whistle.

[SpikedLemonade]

Well bend over Sabres -- another for Marchand.

[JATMtheJATM]

BREAKING: rumor has it the sabres traded for oiler forward linus omark.

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trade confirmed!

[JATMtheJATM]

for a conditional 6th round pick. LOVE the trade. no risk, medium reward. omark has skill.

[SpikedLemonade]

Bye bye Cody.

Upper Vagina Injury.

[Downinfloflo]

lucic is a chicken ****. i am not disappointed when he gets injured. a genuine chicken **** of a player.

- - - Updated - - -

FLYNNNNNNN! SHORTY!

LOL....Lucic is a lot of things...A chicken is not one of them.

[SpikedLemonade]

for a conditional 6th round pick. LOVE the trade. no risk, medium reward. omark has skill.

Try no reward.

26 year old who is playing in the AHL.

[JATMtheJATM]

Try no reward.

26 year old who is playing in the AHL.

30 points in 65 games. for a team like buffalo, they can take the chance.

FOLIGNO!

[SpikedLemonade]

These Sabres play-by-play announcers see so few Sabre goals that whenever they see one it is like a Stanley Cup winning goal.

Pathetic.

[Downinfloflo]

Is Rask in net for Boston??

[SpikedLemonade]

Is Rask in net for Boston??

No. When the Bruins have no respect for their opponent, they will play their back up goalie even though they do not play the night before or after the game.

Thus Chad Johnson is in goal tonight.

[Downinfloflo]

Sabres #1 center got knocked out the game?
Hodgson has 19 points (eight goals) in 33 games this season. He was playing for the first time since Dec. 10, after missing two games with a lower-body injury.

[SpikedLemonade]

Sabres #1 center got knocked out the game?
Hodgson has 19 points (eight goals) in 33 games this season. He was playing for the first time since Dec. 10, after missing two games with a lower-body injury.

Vaginas are very delicate. The NHL studies concussion injuries for the other 29 teams and vagina injuries for the Sabres.

[JATMtheJATM]

Sabres #1 center got knocked out the game?
Hodgson has 19 points (eight goals) in 33 games this season. He was playing for the first time since Dec. 10, after missing two games with a lower-body injury.

my understanding is he took a puck to the wrist.

[SpikedLemonade]

my understanding is he took a puck to the wrist.

Was his wrist fisting his vagina at the time the puck hit it since they said it was a lower-body injury?

[JATMtheJATM]

Was his wrist fisting his vagina at the time the puck hit it since they said it was a lower-body injury?

it was an upper body injury.

[coastal]

my understanding is he took a puck to the wrist.
Frozen fool's gold?

[SpikedLemonade]

If Rask is in net, this is a shutout.

[JATMtheJATM]

Frozen fool's gold?

?

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MYERS!

[coastal]

Tyler Myers

lolz at the Bruins.

[SpikedLemonade]

As meaningful a win for the Sabres as a Bills December win.

Suck my coq.

[JATMtheJATM]

As meaningful a win for the Sabres as a Bills December win.

Suck my coq.

i almost feel sorry for you. but i dont.

[coastal]

A ten game run gets us back in the mix

[SpikedLemonade]

A ten game run gets us back in the mix

Bills stylie so that they draft 8th overall.

[coastal]

Bills stylie so that they draft 8th overall.
At least they're playing good hockey with what they have.

its more than my terrible ass Leafs at this point.

i like Nolan.

[JATMtheJATM]

At least they're playing good hockey with what they have.

its more than my terrible ass Leafs at this point.

i like Nolan.

ive been meaning to ask you about that. whats up with that? i always thought you were a sabres fan.

[coastal]

ive been meaning to ask you about that. whats up with that? i always thought you were a sabres fan.
Grew up watching Hockey Night in Canada with my dad.

In addition i played in a bunch of AAA tournaments against some really good Toronto teams... Mississauga Reps, Toronto Young Nats...

always envious of those teams... intimidating.

[JATMtheJATM]

Grew up watching Hockey Night in Canada with my dad.

In addition i played in a bunch of AAA tournaments against some really good Toronto teams... Mississauga Reps, Toronto Young Nats...

always envious of those teams... intimidating.

so you are a leafs fan, and sabres fan?

i also grew up watching HNIC. 10 miles west near flint, they didnt get it. we were right at the edge of the windsor local station radius.

[coastal]

so you are a leafs fan, and sabres fan?

i also grew up watching HNIC. 10 miles west near flint, they didnt get it. we were right at the edge of the windsor local station radius.
Yeah.. am fan of both.

when they play each other in the playoffs... I'll find out where the rubber meets the road.

in the meantime... I consider myself half Canadian. Serious.

[JATMtheJATM]

Yeah.. am fan of both.

when they play each other in the playoffs... I'll find out where the rubber meets the road.

in the meantime... I consider myself half Canadian. Serious.

im right there with you haha. i have family up in winnipeg and quebec.

but are the sabres THAT far off? they are competitive most nights under nolan and are even starting to find some offense. or is it just good coaching, good work ethic, and a great goalie?

[SkateZilla]

Last 2 games has been a better overall display and anything I've seen all year so far.

Oh look, we are only 4 pts behind the isles, should we wave to Vanek as we pass them?

[OpIv37]

Heard the third period on SXM in my car and watched the highlights online when I got home- the shorty and the last goal were ****ing sweet.

Still, too little too late.

[JATMtheJATM]

Heard the third period on SXM in my car and watched the highlights online when I got home- the shorty and the last goal were ****ing sweet.

Still, too little too late.

you act as if this team having a losing record is surprising. like you expected them to compete for the playoffs. this is right about where many thought the team would be. it sucks, but lets take this for what it is. hey, you were appalled by the hockey you were seeing in the first quarter of the season. you should be happy they are at least competitive now.

[Skooby]

If we don't lose again this season, we're all set.

[OpIv37]

you act as if this team having a losing record is surprising. like you expected them to compete for the playoffs. this is right about where many thought the team would be. it sucks, but lets take this for what it is. hey, you were appalled by the hockey you were seeing in the first quarter of the season. you should be happy they are at least competitive now.
What I want and what I expect are two different things. I usually expect the Bills and Sabres to lose- that doesn't make it any less frustrating when it happens, especially when the reasons why it happens are because off bad decisions that mos of us knew were bad from the moment they were made.

[JATMtheJATM]

What I want and what I expect are two different things. I usually expect the Bills and Sabres to lose- that doesn't make it any less frustrating when it happens, especially when the reasons why it happens are because off bad decisions that mos of us knew were bad from the moment they were made.

i think i bought so hard into the rebuild, i have reserved myself to knowing that this year, and next, are going to be long and difficult. and its for the greater good. so i watch to see players develop, and wins are just a bonus now.

the plus side is, at least theyve taken that first step. theyve become more competitive. more drive. thats an important first step.

[Skooby]

i think i bought so hard into the rebuild, i have reserved myself to knowing that this year, and next, are going to be long and difficult. and its for the greater good. so i watch to see players develop, and wins are just a bonus now.

the plus side is, at least theyve taken that first step. theyve become more competitive. more drive. thats an important first step.

Now just rid of Miller & bring up a goalie.

[JATMtheJATM]

Now just rid of Miller & bring up a goalie.

http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw9375_small.jpg

[Skooby]

http://denver.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw9375_small.jpg

LOL, funny.

[Ginger Vitis]

so you are a leafs fan, and sabres fan?



Im in the same boat as Coastal I'm a Leafs and Sabres fan.. Imagine having 2 favourite teams and not seeing either one win a Stanley Cup so far in your lifetime lol

[JATMtheJATM]

i have no beef with that. stick around, my man. this forum needs more puck talk.

[JATMtheJATM]

LOL, funny.

well, maybe im off, but it sure seems like you want to just get rid of miller like hes a problem or something. like getting rid of him will make the team better. now, if you suggested trading miller for a first or a high end prospect , i wouldnt have any beef with that. its all in the wording. without miller, this team is not even close to respectable.

[Skooby]

well, maybe im off, but it sure seems like you want to just get rid of miller like hes a problem or something. like getting rid of him will make the team better. now, if you suggested trading miller for a first or a high end prospect , i wouldnt have any beef with that. its all in the wording. without miller, this team is not even close to respectable.

We have to get compensation now or it'll be never..

[JATMtheJATM]

We have to get compensation now or it'll be never..

i dont disagree. unless he signs an extension.

[SpikedLemonade]

i dont disagree. unless he signs an extension.

AND why would he do that?

[JATMtheJATM]

AND why would he do that?

youd have to ask him. but apparently, hes willing to listen to the sabres.

[SpikedLemonade]

youd have to ask him. but apparently, hes willing to listen to the sabres.

He is just saying that so things don't be too uncomfortable over the next few months.

Like most players (and people) he can't wait to get the Hell out of Buffalo.

[JATMtheJATM]

He is just saying that so things don't be too uncomfortable over the next few months.

Like most players (and people) he can't wait to get the Hell out of Buffalo.

i dunno why you are trying to take a shot at buffalo to offend me. im not from buffalo, nor do i live in buffalo. but a decent troll attempt none the less.

[SpikedLemonade]

i dunno why you are trying to take a shot at buffalo to offend me. im not from buffalo, nor do i live in buffalo. but a decent troll attempt none the less.

That is so sad.

You choose to cheer for losers.

Like me for the Bills until they relocate.

[coastal]

That is so sad.

You choose to cheer for losers.

Like me for the Bills until they relocate.
Lol.

u choose to cheer for losers.

hahahaha.

[JATMtheJATM]

That is so sad.

You choose to cheer for losers.

Like me for the Bills until they relocate.

how long have you been a bruins fan? they were losers till 2 years ago.

[Downinfloflo]

how long have you been a bruins fan? they were losers till 2 years ago.

Wrong..

http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BOS/

[JATMtheJATM]

Wrong..

http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/BOS/

they went how many years without winning a cup?

[Downinfloflo]

they went how many years without winning a cup?

Don't go moving the goal post now....

If that's the standard....The Sabres have been losers since day one...

[JATMtheJATM]

Don't go moving the goal post now....

If that's the standard....The Sabres have been losers since day one...

and thats fine with me. i just think its comical that spike laughs at me for rooting for a "loser franchise" when the bruins were a loser franchise for most of, if not all of his life till 2011, going by the cups argument. so, either hes a fair weather fan, or just a douchebag who was a fan of a "loser franchise" just like coastal and i.

also, this goes back to a previous debate you and i had, where you claimed the penguins were horrible from 98-2006. when i posted that they had made the playoffs from 98-01, that was the end of it. so were the pens not losers for all those years because they had postseason and regular season success for several of those years, or does a team has to win cups in order not to be a "loser franchise"

[Downinfloflo]

and thats fine with me. i just think its comical that spike laughs at me for rooting for a "loser franchise" when the bruins were a loser franchise for most of, if not all of his life till 2011, going by the cups argument. so, either hes a fair weather fan, or just a douchebag who was a fan of a "loser franchise" just like coastal and i.

also, this goes back to a previous debate you and i had, where you claimed the penguins were horrible from 98-2006. when i posted that they had made the playoffs from 98-01, that was the end of it. so were the pens not losers for all those years because they had postseason and regular season success for several of those years, or does a team has to win cups in order not to be a "loser franchise"

And I admitted I was wrong about the Penguins...

[JATMtheJATM]

And I admitted I was wrong about the Penguins...

fair enough. so we are going by regular season success and playoff success with cups not being the factor. if so, the sabres arent a loser team. thats my point.

[Downinfloflo]

fair enough. so we are going by regular season success and playoff success with cups not being the factor. if so, the sabres arent a loser team. thats my point.

I'm not sure what you were going by..But the post that started this conversation suggest you were talking about Cup wins.

[JATMtheJATM]

I'm not sure what you were going by..But the post that started this conversation suggest you were talking about Cup wins.

well, thats what i thought he was going by. at any rate, you got me.

[Ginger Vitis]

how long have you been a bruins fan? they were losers till 2 years ago.

Spiked is a Leafs fan

[Meathead]

well it almost doesnt matter what happens this season but two very solid come from behind wins in a row seems like a major step for this team. i expect the fruins to blow their doors off tonite but it would be great if they could pull another one out of their ass

[JATMtheJATM]

Spiked is a Leafs fan

hes a bruins fan, last i checked.

[SpikedLemonade]

how long have you been a bruins fan? they were losers till 2 years ago.

1968

[JATMtheJATM]

1968

so basically, what makes the sabres a loser franchise when the bruins had the same level of success as the sabres over most of that time period?

[JATMtheJATM]

enroth? damn.

[JATMtheJATM]

GIRGS! i love this kid!

[SpikedLemonade]

so basically, what makes the sabres a loser franchise when the bruins had the same level of success as the sabres over most of that time period?

Three Stanley Cups and missed the play-offs a handful of times.

The Sabres did that?

[JATMtheJATM]

Three Stanley Cups and missed the play-offs a handful of times.

The Sabres did that?

the cups were at the extreme ends of the spectrums. so you had alot of seasons where the bruins and the sabres were on same level

[SpikedLemonade]

the cups were at the extreme ends of the spectrums. so you had alot of seasons where the bruins and the sabres were on same level

Not even close.

[JATMtheJATM]

Not even close.

yeah, the sabres made the playoffs many seasons since they came into the league in 70. so minus the cups at the extremes, yeah, the sabres and bruins were very close from 73-2010.

[JATMtheJATM]

4 minute double minor after a highstick.

[Skooby]

Foot in the crease was our closest shot, Hasek was not human.

[JATMtheJATM]

Foot in the crease was our closest shot, Hasek was not human.

bummer the injury bug bit the sabres in 06. but it happens.

[JATMtheJATM]

boy i like bergeron. good to see myers dropping the gloves too.

[SpikedLemonade]

Foot in the crease was our closest shot, Hasek was not human.

But he couldn't keep his wife happy. Miller has the same problem.

[JATMtheJATM]

porter injured by a hipcheck.

[coastal]

Why is Enroth in net?

[JATMtheJATM]

Why is Enroth in net?

showcase him for a trade for when miller signs an extension ;)

[coastal]

I have never seen one player get away with more slashing and cross checking than Chara.

[SpikedLemonade]

I have never seen one player get away with more slashing and cross checking than Chara.

He is just big and clumsy.

The refs have been crap tonight.

[JATMtheJATM]

He is just big and clumsy.

The refs have been crap tonight.

i'd agree with that.

[SpikedLemonade]

4-1 is good.I would like to see Rask play every game that is not a back-to-back.

[Meathead]

another very good game by the sabres, didnt get the result they deserved but really competed well. ted has the team coming on really nicely now and they should continue to get better. i hope they keep miller and try for a rapid turnaround into next season instead of a prolonged rebuild

[JATMtheJATM]

another very good game by the sabres, didnt get the result they deserved but really competed well. ted has the team coming on really nicely now and they should continue to get better. i hope they keep miller and try for a rapid turnaround into next season instead of a prolonged rebuild

i hope they suck next year. i know that sounds bad, but man.... mcdavid.

[SkateZilla]

has their play really constituted a 9 spot jump on power rankings? lol..

[Meathead]

OMFG what a freakin game

shorthanded all game they fight their asses off and get the regulation tie late

then unbelieveably in ot the puck ends up in mike smiths ass crack and he backs into the goal - after further review its a good goal lololol awesome

[Crisis]

i tuned in just in time to see that last goal

WTF LOL

never seen anything like that

[Meathead]

ive heard of shooting for the five hole but never the bung hole

[JATMtheJATM]

3-1 in the last 4 games, including wins against boston and phx. ottawa too. holy ****, only 2 points back of edmonton with a game in hand.

[Downinfloflo]

Sabres better knock it off or they will be picking 5th.

[JATMtheJATM]

Sabres better knock it off or they will be picking 5th.

no kidding, right?

[Skooby]

has their play really constituted a 9 spot jump on power rankings? lol..
We won again, go figure.

[SkateZilla]

Butt-Goal will propel them up 2 spots.

[rbochan]

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7789/kesselboy.jpg

[JATMtheJATM]

sulzer a scratch tonight. miller vs bernier

[JATMtheJATM]

moulson from girgs and mcbain. girgs is becoming a real solid player.

JOHN SCOTT???

[Meathead]

goal.

scoring.

machine.

[JATMtheJATM]

john scott ties mika noronen on the sabres all time goal scoring list.

[coastal]

John Scott?

My Leafs are awful to watch. Beyond undisciplined.

[JATMtheJATM]

the leafs are going to miss the playoffs. outside reilly, they dont have very much youth either.

[coastal]

the leafs are going to miss the playoffs. outside reilly, they dont have very much youth either.youre damn right they're going to miss the playoffs.

I've seen PeeWees play better in their own zone.

[SkateZilla]

you know you're playing like **** when Scott scores from the slot.

[Meathead]

oh bull. john scott zeroed in on the open corner with gretzky like laser accuracy

[coastal]

That was an absolute cannon by Gardiner.

[JATMtheJATM]

2-2

[coastal]

Kessel answers Scott!!!

- - - Updated - - -

Tyler Myers reaching and flailing...

[JATMtheJATM]

headsy move by JVR to find kessel.

[JATMtheJATM]

we are tied!!!!!

and what a nice little by myers.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Awwww yeah!

[Meathead]

quck the fueffs

[JATMtheJATM]

sucks they lost in a shootout, but glad to see em battle back. that tying goal was sweet.

[Skooby]

Another road loss, yeah.

[JATMtheJATM]

sabres beat the caps in a shootout. miller named to team USA in a report.

[JATMtheJATM]

shots were 50-17 in favor of washington tonight. blech.

[coastal]

shots were 50-17 in favor of washington tonight. blech.
Miller is going to cost them Ekblad or Reinhart.

[JATMtheJATM]

Miller is going to cost them Ekblad or Reinhart.

its possible. but the lack of offense is going to cost them wins too. id also imagine millers stock is rising significantly.

[coastal]

its possible. but the lack of offense is going to cost them wins too. id also imagine millers stock is rising significantly.
He's a beast right now.

[JATMtheJATM]

He's a beast right now.

i love miller. but maybe its time to move him. they can get a good return for him now.

[Downinfloflo]

Miller is going to cost them Ekblad or Reinhart.

What if Miller stays until the end of the season...Sabres miss out on those 2 guy's and then Miller say's no thank's I'm not going to resign. :limpclap:

[coastal]

What if Miller stays until the end of the season...Sabres miss out on those 2 guy's and then Miller say's no thank's I'm not going to resign. :limpclap:
It's the Buffalo way...

[coastal]

At least the Isles won after trailing 3-0

[JATMtheJATM]

What if Miller stays until the end of the season...Sabres miss out on those 2 guy's and then Miller say's no thank's I'm not going to resign. :limpclap:

guess connor mcdavid is a real possibility then.

[SkateZilla]

haha, we Go 2-0-1 and ESPN Dumps the sabres 8 spots, after giving them 9 last week... wtf?

[Downinfloflo]

ESPN Don't know **** about hockey.

[SkateZilla]

ESPN Don't know **** about hockey.

Bumper Sticker worthy

[JATMtheJATM]

larsson with a hit, stafford with a hit, girgs driving the net.

liking a team with direction.

only down thing about nolan? giving scott 10 minutes a night.

also, a hasek night wont happen with nolan as coach probably.

[coastal]

What's this about Scott on the power play?

[Skooby]

Bag of burning dog-sheet again.

[JATMtheJATM]

i love that myers is getting more physical. but, uh. dont leave your feet and target the head. thats dirty. he will sit a game or two for that. as he should.

[coastal]

i love that myers is getting more physical. but, uh. dont leave your feet and target the head. thats dirty. he will sit a game or two for that. as he should.
Dude.

Any chance Tyler has a 5 cent head?

[JATMtheJATM]

Dude.

Any chance Tyler has a 5 cent head?

i dont think so. bad hit deserving of a suspension, sure.

[Downinfloflo]

Ty Buffalo... :beers:

[JATMtheJATM]

tonights game MAY be postponed. just got an email. they will figure it out by the mid afternoon.

[JATMtheJATM]

its postponed.

[Skooby]

We can't lose tonight !!!

[JATMtheJATM]

i wonder if mcbain has any value at the deadline himself?

[ParanoidAndroid]

McBain is not a guy we need to move. He's solid and he's only 25.

[JATMtheJATM]

McBain is not a guy we need to move. He's solid and he's only 25.

with all the youth the sabres have in the back end, and some of that talent is ready for full time NHL duty, i figure he and tallinder are the two who are going to go.

[JATMtheJATM]

larsson with another golden chance. kids gonna start rolling eventually.

[Downinfloflo]

6 goal post hit, A high stick call was missed, Panthers come down and score, It's waved off because of a late whistle.

[Downinfloflo]

larsson with another golden chance. kids gonna start rolling eventually.

You talking about that pass he got from Bergenheim? LOL

[Downinfloflo]

Welcome to the NHL Mr, Omark...

[JATMtheJATM]

omarks been around the NHL before...

[JATMtheJATM]

thats a goal.

[Downinfloflo]

omarks been around the NHL before...

Then he should have known better then to try that on a veteran D-Man....He got leveled.LOL

Panthers get mugged again...

[JATMtheJATM]

seriously? ok... ill take it.

[Downinfloflo]

HAHAHA....WTF...These refs are ******ed.

[JATMtheJATM]

thats a goal. good game, enroth, lousy shootout.

[Downinfloflo]

thats a goal. good game, enroth, lousy shootout.

Poor Enroth, He started 13 games and the Sabres have scored 16 goals for him...

[coastal]

Sabres for outplayed in the third. Lucky to get a point out if it.

[Downinfloflo]

Sabres played (43) games and they scored (75) goals, They are (30th) in the NHL, They are (25) goals behind (29th) Calgary who has (100)..That's nuts...

The top scoring team in the NHL is the Blackhawks with (169) goals..

[JATMtheJATM]

Poor Enroth, He started 13 games and the Sabres have scored 16 goals for him...

pathetic, isnt it?

enroth played well (he reminds me of a small mike smith in his technique and style)

[SkateZilla]

at this rate we'll have more SO/OTL's than Regulation Wins soon

[Ginger Vitis]

Enroth is pissed off about the lack of goal production

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/1/9/5294070/sabres-goalie-jhonas-enroth-its-tough-to-win-with-this-team

[Downinfloflo]

He should be...The Sabres are going to break the record for least amount of goals scored by a NHL team...A record that has stood since 1953!!!

LMAO.....He said "It's tuff to win with this team"