Bills sign TE Tony Moeaki

[Goobylal]

Promising TE for the Chefs before getting injured. Good low risk move.

[WagonCircler]

This explains the Tashard Choice move.

[Meathead]

scotties butt cheeks just got pretty toasty

[T-Long]

with Chandler being a FA after the season and the drafting of Gragg....looks like the last year for Chandler with the Bills.

[SquishDaFish]

Love the move. Was pissed off with Choice cut for no reason but now I like the releases with this signing

[Forward_Lateral]

Chandler better go buy some stickem.

[The King]

Low risk high reward move. Injury prone, but also two very different injuries.

[swiper]

with Chandler being a FA after the season and the drafting of Gragg....looks like the last year for Chandler with the Bills.

This hasn't exactly been a highlight reel year for Chandler.

[Jan Reimers]

He's been a good receiver when healthy and he's still young. Great move if he can avoid more injuries.

[feldspar]

For a brief moment, Scott Chandler looked like something of a Cinderella story, but then he turned back into the pumpkin or whatever the *** happens.

[swiper]

Low risk high reward move.

Like banging a virgin.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

For a brief moment, Scott Chandler looked like something of a Cinderella story, but then he turned back into the pumpkin or whatever the *** happens.

Well, lets go to the original:


Cinderella Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm A rich man's wife became sick, and when she felt that her end was drawing near, she called her only daughter to her bedside and said, "Dear child, remain pious and good, and then our dear God will always protect you, and I will look down on you from heaven and be near you." With this she closed her eyes and died.
The girl went out to her mother's grave every day and wept, and she remained pious and good. When winter came the snow spread a white cloth over the grave, and when the spring sun had removed it again, the man took himself another wife.
This wife brought two daughters into the house with her. They were beautiful, with fair faces, but evil and dark hearts. Times soon grew very bad for the poor stepchild.
"Why should that stupid goose sit in the parlor with us?" they said. "If she wants to eat bread, then she will have to earn it. Out with this kitchen maid!"
They took her beautiful clothes away from her, dressed her in an old gray smock, and gave her wooden shoes. "Just look at the proud princess! How decked out she is!" they shouted and laughed as they led her into the kitchen.
There she had to do hard work from morning until evening, get up before daybreak, carry water, make the fires, cook, and wash. Besides this, the sisters did everything imaginable to hurt her. They made fun of her, scattered peas and lentils into the ashes for her, so that she had to sit and pick them out again. In the evening when she had worked herself weary, there was no bed for her. Instead she had to sleep by the hearth in the ashes. And because she always looked dusty and dirty, they called her Cinderella.
One day it happened that the father was going to the fair, and he asked his two stepdaughters what he should bring back for them.
"Beautiful dresses," said the one.
"Pearls and jewels," said the other.
"And you, Cinderella," he said, "what do you want?"
"Father, break off for me the first twig that brushes against your hat on your way home."
So he bought beautiful dresses, pearls, and jewels for his two stepdaughters. On his way home, as he was riding through a green thicket, a hazel twig brushed against him and knocked off his hat. Then he broke off the twig and took it with him. Arriving home, he gave his stepdaughters the things that they had asked for, and he gave Cinderella the twig from the hazel bush.
Cinderella thanked him, went to her mother's grave, and planted the branch on it, and she wept so much that her tears fell upon it and watered it. It grew and became a beautiful tree.
Cinderella went to this tree three times every day, and beneath it she wept and prayed. A white bird came to the tree every time, and whenever she expressed a wish, the bird would throw down to her what she had wished for.
Now it happened that the king proclaimed a festival that was to last three days. All the beautiful young girls in the land were invited, so that his son could select a bride for himself. When the two stepsisters heard that they too had been invited, they were in high spirits.
They called Cinderella, saying, "Comb our hair for us. Brush our shoes and fasten our buckles. We are going to the festival at the king's castle."
Cinderella obeyed, but wept, because she too would have liked to go to the dance with them. She begged her stepmother to allow her to go.
"You, Cinderella?" she said. "You, all covered with dust and dirt, and you want to go to the festival?. You have neither clothes nor shoes, and yet you want to dance!"
However, because Cinderella kept asking, the stepmother finally said, "I have scattered a bowl of lentils into the ashes for you. If you can pick them out again in two hours, then you may go with us."
The girl went through the back door into the garden, and called out, "You tame pigeons, you turtledoves, and all you birds beneath the sky, come and help me to gather:

The good ones go into the pot,
The bad ones go into your crop." Two white pigeons came in through the kitchen window, and then the turtledoves, and finally all the birds beneath the sky came whirring and swarming in, and lit around the ashes. The pigeons nodded their heads and began to pick, pick, pick, pick. And the others also began to pick, pick, pick, pick. They gathered all the good grains into the bowl. Hardly one hour had passed before they were finished, and they all flew out again. The girl took the bowl to her stepmother, and was happy, thinking that now she would be allowed to go to the festival with them.
But the stepmother said, "No, Cinderella, you have no clothes, and you don't know how to dance. Everyone would only laugh at you."
Cinderella began to cry, and then the stepmother said, "You may go if you are able to pick two bowls of lentils out of the ashes for me in one hour," thinking to herself, "She will never be able to do that."
The girl went through the back door into the garden, and called out, "You tame pigeons, you turtledoves, and all you birds beneath the sky, come and help me to gather:

The good ones go into the pot,
The bad ones go into your crop." Two white pigeons came in through the kitchen window, and then the turtledoves, and finally all the birds beneath the sky came whirring and swarming in, and lit around the ashes. The pigeons nodded their heads and began to pick, pick, pick, pick. And the others also began to pick, pick, pick, pick. They gathered all the good grains into the bowls. Before a half hour had passed they were finished, and they all flew out again. The girl took the bowls to her stepmother, and was happy, thinking that now she would be allowed to go to the festival with them.
But the stepmother said, "It's no use. You are not coming with us, for you have no clothes, and you don't know how to dance. We would be ashamed of you." With this she turned her back on Cinderella, and hurried away with her two proud daughters.
Now that no one else was at home, Cinderella went to her mother's grave beneath the hazel tree, and cried out:

Shake and quiver, little tree,
Throw gold and silver down to me. Then the bird threw a gold and silver dress down to her, and slippers embroidered with silk and silver. She quickly put on the dress and went to the festival. Her stepsisters and her stepmother did not recognize her. They thought she must be a foreign princess, for she looked so beautiful in the golden dress. They never once thought it was Cinderella, for they thought that she was sitting at home in the dirt, looking for lentils in the ashes.
The prince approached her, took her by the hand, and danced with her. Furthermore, he would dance with no one else. He never let go of her hand, and whenever anyone else came and asked her to dance, he would say, "She is my dance partner."
She danced until evening, and then she wanted to go home. But the prince said, "I will go along and escort you," for he wanted to see to whom the beautiful girl belonged. However, she eluded him and jumped into the pigeon coop. The prince waited until her father came, and then he told him that the unknown girl had jumped into the pigeon coop.
The old man thought, "Could it be Cinderella?"
He had them bring him an ax and a pick so that he could break the pigeon coop apart, but no one was inside. When they got home Cinderella was lying in the ashes, dressed in her dirty clothes. A dim little oil-lamp was burning in the fireplace. Cinderella had quickly jumped down from the back of the pigeon coop and had run to the hazel tree. There she had taken off her beautiful clothes and laid them on the grave, and the bird had taken them away again. Then, dressed in her gray smock, she had returned to the ashes in the kitchen.
The next day when the festival began anew, and her parents and her stepsisters had gone again, Cinderella went to the hazel tree and said:

Shake and quiver, little tree,
Throw gold and silver down to me. Then the bird threw down an even more magnificent dress than on the preceding day. When Cinderella appeared at the festival in this dress, everyone was astonished at her beauty. The prince had waited until she came, then immediately took her by the hand, and danced only with her. When others came and asked her to dance with them, he said, "She is my dance partner." When evening came she wanted to leave, and the prince followed her, wanting to see into which house she went. But she ran away from him and into the garden behind the house. A beautiful tall tree stood there, on which hung the most magnificent pears. She climbed as nimbly as a squirrel into the branches, and the prince did not know where she had gone. He waited until her father came, then said to him, "The unknown girl has eluded me, and I believe she has climbed up the pear tree.
The father thought, "Could it be Cinderella?" He had an ax brought to him and cut down the tree, but no one was in it. When they came to the kitchen, Cinderella was lying there in the ashes as usual, for she had jumped down from the other side of the tree, had taken the beautiful dress back to the bird in the hazel tree, and had put on her gray smock.
On the third day, when her parents and sisters had gone away, Cinderella went again to her mother's grave and said to the tree:

Shake and quiver, little tree,
Throw gold and silver down to me. This time the bird threw down to her a dress that was more splendid and magnificent than any she had yet had, and the slippers were of pure gold. When she arrived at the festival in this dress, everyone was so astonished that they did not know what to say. The prince danced only with her, and whenever anyone else asked her to dance, he would say, "She is my dance partner." When evening came Cinderella wanted to leave, and the prince tried to escort her, but she ran away from him so quickly that he could not follow her. The prince, however, had set a trap. He had had the entire stairway smeared with pitch. When she ran down the stairs, her left slipper stuck in the pitch. The prince picked it up. It was small and dainty, and of pure gold.
The next morning, he went with it to the man, and said to him, "No one shall be my wife except for the one whose foot fits this golden shoe."
The two sisters were happy to hear this, for they had pretty feet. With her mother standing by, the older one took the shoe into her bedroom to try it on. She could not get her big toe into it, for the shoe was too small for her. Then her mother gave her a knife and said, "Cut off your toe. When you are queen you will no longer have to go on foot."
The girl cut off her toe, forced her foot into the shoe, swallowed the pain, and went out to the prince. He took her on his horse as his bride and rode away with her. However, they had to ride past the grave, and there, on the hazel tree, sat the two pigeons, crying out:

Rook di goo, rook di goo!
There's blood in the shoe.
The shoe is too tight,
This bride is not right! Then he looked at her foot and saw how the blood was running from it. He turned his horse around and took the false bride home again, saying that she was not the right one, and that the other sister should try on the shoe. She went into her bedroom, and got her toes into the shoe all right, but her heel was too large. Then her mother gave her a knife, and said, "Cut a piece off your heel. When you are queen you will no longer have to go on foot."
The girl cut a piece off her heel, forced her foot into the shoe, swallowed the pain, and went out to the prince. He took her on his horse as his bride and rode away with her. When they passed the hazel tree, the two pigeons were sitting in it, and they cried out:

Rook di goo, rook di goo!
There's blood in the shoe.
The shoe is too tight,
This bride is not right! He looked down at her foot and saw how the blood was running out of her shoe, and how it had stained her white stocking all red. Then he turned his horse around and took the false bride home again. "This is not the right one, either," he said. "Don't you have another daughter?"
"No," said the man. "There is only a deformed little Cinderella from my first wife, but she cannot possibly be the bride."
The prince told him to send her to him, but the mother answered, "Oh, no, she is much too dirty. She cannot be seen."
But the prince insisted on it, and they had to call Cinderella. She first washed her hands and face clean, and then went and bowed down before the prince, who gave her the golden shoe. She sat down on a stool, pulled her foot out of the heavy wooden shoe, and put it into the slipper, and it fitted her perfectly.
When she stood up the prince looked into her face, and he recognized the beautiful girl who had danced with him. He cried out, "She is my true bride."
The stepmother and the two sisters were horrified and turned pale with anger. The prince, however, took Cinderella onto his horse and rode away with her. As they passed by the hazel tree, the two white pigeons cried out:

Rook di goo, rook di goo!
No blood's in the shoe.
The shoe's not too tight,
This bride is right! After they had cried this out, they both flew down and lit on Cinderella's shoulders, one on the right, the other on the left, and remained sitting there. When the wedding with the prince was to be held, the two false sisters came, wanting to gain favor with Cinderella and to share her good fortune. When the bridal couple walked into the church, the older sister walked on their right side and the younger on their left side, and the pigeons pecked out one eye from each of them. Afterwards, as they came out of the church, the older one was on the left side, and the younger one on the right side, and then the pigeons pecked out the other eye from each of them. And thus, for their wickedness and falsehood, they were punished with blindness as long as they lived.


http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm021.html

Nope, not seeing any Pumpkins sorry, but the story is more badass. Although perhaps Russ Brandon and Ralph Wilson are the evil step sisters? :dunno:

[gebobs]

Wow...we have a Grimm's scholar on board. *rolls eyes*

Anyhoo...good signing. Chandler's days are numbered thankfully. Never liked that Neanderthal.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Wow...we have a Grimm's scholar on board. *rolls eyes*

Anyhoo...good signing. Chandler's days are numbered thankfully. Never liked that Neanderthal.


It was an okay signing, but an oft injured player who may or may not be able to regain his pre-injury potential form is far from a good signing. It is an acceptable signing. Let us hope that we can draft a real TE in the draft, and maybe even trade Joker for some draft picks. We have an emerging core of WRs. Joker has got to learn that if he doesn't want to get serious about stepping up his game when it matters that he can go bye bye.

As for Grimm, well considering that Russ is blind to signing talent (letting go of a decent OL and creating a need where there wasn't one and not giving Byrd the money he deserves) I think the original version is the correct one. However, this does not suggest the Disney version is without merit. However, I think a Stalin era Soviet metaphor is more appropriate here than Disney's Cinderalla in that well "that a lump of excrement that the Bills turned into a player has proven to be a lump of excrement.

[GingerP]

Good player when healthy, but I don't think he stays healthy. He was hurt every year at Iowa, which kept him from living up to his promise as a recruit. That has followed him into the pros, as he couldn't stay on the field for the Chiefs.

The fact they signed him to a 2-year deal means they see him as a viable option for next season, but I hope they don't plan to rely on him too much. They need to do more to upgrade TE, as he hasn't been able to stay healthy full year since high school.

[BertSquirtgum]

They are going to keep both chandler and moeaki people.

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One fumble and chandler is getting cut from the team? Doubtful.

[BertSquirtgum]

They will resign him from less money.

[Mace]

I think it was a good signing, because sitting at 4-8, they didn't just stay complacent and stumble along through the rest of the year. They tried something. At 4-8. Organization isn't just accepting junk and running for the bus. A good thing.

[coastal]

Playoffs!!!!

[Night Train]

The player signed seems almost secondary. The message sent directly to Chandler about his position as the starting TE going forward seems primary.

His contract is done with the Bills at the end of the month and so is his time in Buffalo. Message received.

Next up. SJ.

[DraftBoy]

Replacing one Iowa Hawkeye with another. Moeaki has good potential but his injury list is long and one has to wonder just how much more he can bring. Either way its a good move if it works out and costs almost nothing if it doesn't.

[TacklingDummy]

CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

[Turf]

Wow...we have a Grimm's scholar on board. *rolls eyes*

Not any worse than the same stupid pictures you have to see at the end of everyone post.

[Pinkerton Security]

Moeaki actually played pretty well for the Chiefs a couple years back, we just need him to stay healthy.

[gebobs]

One fumble and chandler is getting cut from the team? Doubtful.
If it was just one fumble, I would agree. It's not. He stops drives every game with dropped passes and penalties.

[ThunderGun]

They are going to keep both chandler and moeaki people.

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One fumble and chandler is getting cut from the team? Doubtful.

Chandler's contract is up in 4 weeks. Nobody said he was getting cut.

I'm ready to move on from him after the season. I don't even care about the fumble. My issue with him is that he is painfully slow, and unathletic. He is a big body, and makes a decent redzone target, but he can't be relied on for much else. I'm sick of seeing us throw it to him in the flats on a little 2 yard route on 3rd and 5, and watching his slow ass get caught before reaching the sticks.

If he re-signs for a modest contract, I'd be ok with that. But we need a better receiving option at TE. Is Moeaki that guy? Who knows. They'll probably evaluate him over the final 3-4 games, and I'm all for it.

[justasportsfan]

Chandler? More like Lee Smith will be let go.

[DraftBoy]

Chandler? More like Lee Smith will be let go.

Lee Smith is our only blocking TE on the roster, and Moeaki doesn't fit that role. Can't see Smith's job being in trouble with this move.

[Mr. Pink]

Neither Moeaki nor Chandler will be here next year.

[better days]

Lee Smith is our only blocking TE on the roster, and Moeaki doesn't fit that role. Can't see Smith's job being in trouble with this move.

Yeah, because Smith is VITAL in this offense & is on the field ALL the time. LOL.

[better days]

Neither Moeaki nor Chandler will be here next year.

Moeaki signed a two year deal so I would bet he is a Bill next year.

[Mr. Pink]

Moeaki signed a two year deal so I would bet he is a Bill next year.

They'll both be gone.

It'll be someone new and Lee Smith as the two tight ends.

Moeaki and Chandler don't block, Smith does. He'll always serve a purpose even if it isn't glamorous.

[better days]

They'll both be gone.

It'll be someone new and Lee Smith as the two tight ends.

Moeaki and Chandler don't block, Smith does. He'll always serve a purpose even if it isn't glamorous.

Smith serves LITTLE purpose. What is needed is a TE like Gronk that can block & CATCH the ball. Smith can only block & he does not do a great job at that.

I could see the Bills offering Chandler a take it or leave it contract.

Moeaki is already under contract for next year & will be a Bill.

Smith likely gone.

[DraftBoy]

Smith serves LITTLE purpose. What is needed is a TE like Gronk that can block & CATCH the ball. Smith can only block & he does not do a great job at that.

I could see the Bills offering Chandler a take it or leave it contract.

Moeaki is already under contract for next year & will be a Bill.

Smith likely gone.

Nothing about Moeaki being on a two year deal means he will be a Bill next season. Two year deals are common place this late in the season so you can hold onto the player over the offseason and monitor development without having them hit the market. It doesn't mean they will keep him though.

[better days]

Nothing about Moeaki being on a two year deal means he will be a Bill next season. Two year deals are common place this late in the season so you can hold onto the player over the offseason and monitor development without having them hit the market. It doesn't mean they will keep him though.

It means the Bills can keep him if they like what he shows over the remainder of this season............including staying healthy.

And I don't think Josh Freeman got a two year contract from the Vikings.

[DraftBoy]

It means the Bills can keep him if they like what he shows over the remainder of this season............including staying healthy.

And I don't think Josh Freeman got a two year contract from the Vikings.

Freeman also was signed weeks ago, not at the same time and was a former starting QB in the NFL. I think that goes a weebit further in negotiations than a 3rd-4th string TE.

[GvilleBills]

Nothing about Moeaki being on a two year deal means he will be a Bill next season. Two year deals are common place this late in the season so you can hold onto the player over the offseason and monitor development without having them hit the market. It doesn't mean they will keep him though.

This.
The Bills have assured themselves of a full look at Moeaki through this season and into camp next year, Maybe into preseason, and if they like what they have he's locked up all season.

[Crisis]

Smith serves LITTLE purpose. What is needed is a TE like Gronk that can block & CATCH the ball. Smith can only block & he does not do a great job at that.

I could see the Bills offering Chandler a take it or leave it contract.

Moeaki is already under contract for next year & will be a Bill.

Smith likely gone.

31 other teams could use a Gronk. Guy is probably the most complete and dominate TE I've ever seen. Graham is good but he's not anywhere close to Gronk's level as a blocker.

[better days]

31 other teams could use a Gronk. Guy is probably the most complete and dominate TE I've ever seen. Graham is good but he's not anywhere close to Gronk's level as a blocker.

Agreed about Gronk. So the question becomes which is harder to find, an ATHLETIC TE that can block some & is GOOD at catching the ball & moving the chains, or a guy that does a so so job of blocking & is not athletic at all?

I think Moeaki is the answer to that question, a guy that can probably block as well as Smith & can catch the ball & move the chains much better than Smith.

[GingerP]

Moeaki signed a two year deal so I would bet he is a Bill next year.

If history is any indicator, he will spend next year on the Bills' Injured Reserve.

[better days]

Freeman also was signed weeks ago, not at the same time and was a former starting QB in the NFL. I think that goes a weebit further in negotiations than a 3rd-4th string TE.

Moeaki was a starter for the Chiefs before being injured right?

If he is healthy do you really expect him to be 3rd or 4th string?

[k-oneputt]

If healthy he would be the best te on the current team.

[jills]

Promising TE for the Chefs before getting injured. Good low risk move.

Can you say Superbowl!?

[Mr. Pink]

Moeaki was a starter for the Chiefs before being injured right?

If he is healthy do you really expect him to be 3rd or 4th string?

Yes.

If the Bills sign or draft a TE, that guy will be given every opportunity to be the starter. Smith sticks because of his blocking. Gragg plays the H-Back type of role - versatility. Not to mention they seem to like Gragg.

That makes Moeaki the 3rd or 4th guy and to be honest, shown the door.

Plus I highly doubt he'll see the field much, if at all, this year.

[GvilleBills]

This is more of a tire kicking than anything, see if he's got anything left.

[better days]

Yes.

If the Bills sign or draft a TE, that guy will be given every opportunity to be the starter. Smith sticks because of his blocking. Gragg plays the H-Back type of role - versatility. Not to mention they seem to like Gragg.

That makes Moeaki the 3rd or 4th guy and to be honest, shown the door.

Plus I highly doubt he'll see the field much, if at all, this year.

You & draft boy make it sound like Smith is a GREAT blocker.

He is NOT that. He is a MEDIOCRE player at best. Moeaki can probably block as well as Smith.

I will bet you Smith will be gone before Moeaki unless it is because of health reasons.

[gr8slayer]

If he can just stay healthy...

[BertSquirtgum]

They'll both be gone.

It'll be someone new and Lee Smith as the two tight ends.

Moeaki and Chandler don't block, Smith does. He'll always serve a purpose even if it isn't glamorous.

You're on drugs. Both guys will 100% be in the Bills' training camp next year.

[JCBills]

Yeah, because Smith is VITAL in this offense & is on the field ALL the time. LOL.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/12/2/5166720/bills-falcons-snap-counts-marquise-goodwin-kiko-alonso

35.5% is a good chunk of snaps. He is a pretty good blocker too.

[better days]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/12/2/5166720/bills-falcons-snap-counts-marquise-goodwin-kiko-alonso

35.5% is a good chunk of snaps. He is a pretty good blocker too.

If he were such a good blocker, Spiller would have had a lot more success getting to the edge than he has.

[JCBills]

If he were such a good blocker, Spiller would have had a lot more success getting to the edge than he has.

Spiller is back to dancing, and while 35% is a good chunk, you can't peg that running failure on Smith.