Mario Williams, Kyle Williams & Jarius Byrd named to Pro Bowl

[GingerP]

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/0ap2000000304771/article/2014-pro-bowl-complete-rosters

[DynaPaul]

Byrd's contract demands just went through the roof.

[coastal]

Kyle and Dareus deserved it for the Dline.

[Meathead]

franchise tag again for byrd

[pmoon6]

Nice for our players to get recognition, but the Pro Bowl is meaningless. I get Mario and Williams, but Byrd. He only played half the season.

[YardRat]

Would've been nice to see Kiko make it also. Dareus was probably left out because they didn't want to overload the d-line with Bills. Byrd making it just perpetuates how much of a joke the Pro Bowl can be.

Personally, I would've sent Mario, Kyle, Dareus and Alonzo.

Nice to see guys like Josh Gordon, Burflict and Kuechly get some recognition though.

[TacklingDummy]

Glad to see Dareus didn't make it.
He sucked against the run.

[SquishDaFish]

TD you just dont like Dareus

[pmoon6]

TD you just dont like DareusToo bad Marcel doesn't know him. He'd deep fat fry him and eat him like a chicken wing.

[TacklingDummy]

TD you just dont like Dareus

Not true, I don't know him.

Guess I'm not the only one who feels his play is not Pro Bowl worthy.

[GingerP]

Mario makes a $400K incentive for making the Pro Bowl. He has an additional $400K in incentives each year of his contract he probably has earned with his sack numbers. He cap number next year is going to rise from $18.4M.

Kyle Williams also has significant incentives in his contract he has likely earned as well.

Byrd is on the tag, so he earns nothing extra.

[pmoon6]

Not true, I don't know him.

Guess I'm not the only one who feels his play is not Pro Bowl worthy.It's a name recognition and stat contest.

Dareus has played well this year and it's a new defensive system. Add another 'backer to the front seven and they might be one of the better defenses in the league.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Would've been nice to see Kiko make it also. Dareus was probably left out because they didn't want to overload the d-line with Bills. Byrd making it just perpetuates how much of a joke the Pro Bowl can be.

Personally, I would've sent Mario, Kyle, Dareus and Alonzo.

Nice to see guys like Josh Gordon, Burflict and Kuechly get some recognition though.

Dareus was left out because he wasn't better than the remaining DTs on the roster. Here's the IOL roster:

Interior lineman: Gerald McCoy (http://www.nfl.com/player/geraldmccoy/496816/profile), Buccaneers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/tampabaybuccaneers/profile?team=TB); Haloti Ngata (http://www.nfl.com/player/halotingata/2506879/profile), Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/teams/baltimoreravens/profile?team=BAL); Dontari Poe (http://www.nfl.com/player/dontaripoe/2533435/profile), Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC); Justin Smith (http://www.nfl.com/player/justinsmith/2504777/profile),49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF); Ndamukong Suh (http://www.nfl.com/player/ndamukongsuh/496861/profile), Lions (http://www.nfl.com/teams/detroitlions/profile?team=DET); Kyle Williams (http://www.nfl.com/player/kylewilliams/2506931/profile), Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF).

Who of them is he better than?

Ditto Alonso:
Inside/middle linebacker: NaVorro Bowman (http://www.nfl.com/player/navorrobowman/2508088/profile), 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF); Vontaze Burfict (http://www.nfl.com/player/vontazeburfict/2533058/profile),Bengals (http://www.nfl.com/teams/cincinnatibengals/profile?team=CIN); Luke Kuechly (http://www.nfl.com/player/lukekuechly/2533056/profile), Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR);Patrick Willis (http://www.nfl.com/player/patrickwillis/2495781/profile), 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF).?

The only one you could maybe argue for is Burfict, but he beats Alonso in several categories. The real guy with a grudge here is Lavonte David.

[pmoon6]

I remember in '93 and '94 the Houston Oilers had 10 or 11 players make the Pro Bowl. They were 0-2 in the playoffs.

[JCBills]

Not true, I don't know him.

Guess I'm not the only one who feels his play is not Pro Bowl worthy.

He did win the fan vote, so clearly someone does.

Also, saying you are happy that someone on your team didn't make the pro bowl is extremely childish. It seems you are extremely bitter when OBD doesn't take "your" guy.

[pmoon6]

He did win the fan vote, so clearly someone does.

Also, saying you are happy that someone on your team didn't make the pro bowl is extremely childish. It seems you are extremely bitter when OBD doesn't take "your" guy.Once again, the Pro Bowl is a joke. Just because Jairus Byrd has name recognition doesn't mean he's worth what he's asking. Pay the guy 7.5 million and move on. If he wants to hardball, tag'n trade. Sorry, but just as a guard isn't worth 9 million a year, neither is a safety.

[YardRat]

Dareus was left out because he wasn't better than the remaining DTs on the roster. Here's the IOL roster:

Interior lineman:Gerald McCoy (http://www.nfl.com/player/geraldmccoy/496816/profile), Buccaneers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/tampabaybuccaneers/profile?team=TB); Haloti Ngata (http://www.nfl.com/player/halotingata/2506879/profile), Ravens (http://www.nfl.com/teams/baltimoreravens/profile?team=BAL); Dontari Poe (http://www.nfl.com/player/dontaripoe/2533435/profile), Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC); Justin Smith (http://www.nfl.com/player/justinsmith/2504777/profile),49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF); Ndamukong Suh (http://www.nfl.com/player/ndamukongsuh/496861/profile), Lions (http://www.nfl.com/teams/detroitlions/profile?team=DET); Kyle Williams (http://www.nfl.com/player/kylewilliams/2506931/profile), Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF).

Who of them is he better than?

Ditto Alonso:
Inside/middle linebacker:NaVorro Bowman (http://www.nfl.com/player/navorrobowman/2508088/profile), 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF); Vontaze Burfict (http://www.nfl.com/player/vontazeburfict/2533058/profile),Bengals (http://www.nfl.com/teams/cincinnatibengals/profile?team=CIN); Luke Kuechly (http://www.nfl.com/player/lukekuechly/2533056/profile), Panthers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/profile?team=CAR);Patrick Willis (http://www.nfl.com/player/patrickwillis/2495781/profile), 49ers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sanfrancisco49ers/profile?team=SF).?

The only one you could maybe argue for is Burfict, but he beats Alonso in several categories. The real guy with a grudge here is Lavonte David.

IMO Dareus is at least as good as McCoy and Poe. Smith and Willis made it on reputation, just like Byrd.

Eugene Parker must have been really busy handing out blowjobs this past week.

[pmoon6]

IMO Dareus is at least as good as McCoy and Poe. Smith and Willis made it on reputation, just like Byrd.

Eugene Parker must have been really busy handing out blowjobs this past week.I thought the same thing, Yard. What role does an agent play in Pro Bowl selection? Does he get his clients to vote for a certain player? Does he campaign as well?

I still don't see how Byrd had a Pro Bowl season given how much time he missed and the plays he made or more importantly, didn't make.

[kishoph]

Great, Byrd is going to need a bigger helmet. If there was any safety on the Bills that deserved consideration for the Pro Bowl, it should of been A. Williams. Selecting players like Byrd, Ngata and Willis shows that it's nothing more than a popularity contest.

[GingerP]

Selecting players like Byrd, Ngata and Willis shows that it's nothing more than a popularity contest.

I think it shows the respect those players have in the league. Pro Bowl rosters are selected by 1/3 fan vote, 1/3 player vote and 1/3 coaches vote. Byrd, Ngata and Willis are great players that opposing players and coaches hold in high regard, which is why they ended up on the team. Stats or injuries aside, those guys are held in high regard by opposing players and coaches because they know they impact games. They have had to prepare to play against them, and that is why they ened up on the roster.


All 3 of those guys are great players, the best at their positions. Even if they didn't have their usual year for various reasons, the regard that opposing players and coaches have for them remains.

[pmoon6]

I think it shows the respect those players have in the league. Pro Bowl rosters are selected by 1/3 fan vote, 1/3 player vote and 1/3 coaches vote. Byrd, Ngata and Willis are great players that opposing players and coaches hold in high regard, which is why they ended up on the team. Stats or injuries aside, those guys are held in high regard by opposing players and coaches because they know they impact games. They have had to prepare to play against them, and that is why they ened up on the roster.


All 3 of those guys are great players, the best at their positions. Even if they didn't have their usual year for various reasons, the regard that opposing players and coaches have for them remains.Pffft. Yeah, Byrd is a real game changer. It would seem the definition of a "great" player has changed during the new millennia. He has four picks this year, same as Aaron Williams, Jim Leonhard and Kiko Alonso. You don't lose much, if anything, having Leonhard in there. Their stats and big plays are the same and given that they have an equal amount of playing time (Byrd was out 6 games and Leonhard saw limited duty since his return)

[justasportsfan]

ha! Jim Leonhard should have made it before Byrd if you go by stats and playing time. What a joke.

[kishoph]

I think it shows the respect those players have in the league. Pro Bowl rosters are selected by 1/3 fan vote, 1/3 player vote and 1/3 coaches vote. Byrd, Ngata and Willis are great players that opposing players and coaches hold in high regard, which is why they ended up on the team. Stats or injuries aside, those guys are held in high regard by opposing players and coaches because they know they impact games. They have had to prepare to play against them, and that is why they ened up on the roster.


All 3 of those guys are great players, the best at their positions. Even if they didn't have their usual year for various reasons, the regard that opposing players and coaches have for them remains.

Shouldn't this years Pro Bowl be for the players that performed the best this year ? If not, my votes go to players like Rice, Bruce, Favre, Butkus, Joe Green, Y.A. Tittle and Red Grange (why not go back to the 20's), guys that has great impact on the game. Jairus Byrd, nah.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Nice for our players to get recognition, but the Pro Bowl is meaningless. I get Mario and Williams, but Byrd. He only played half the season.

But he played well. Give him some money and make him happy.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

In a normal year it wouldn't be a pro bowl season, but it was good and the free safety pickings were pretty slim. Some have suggested merging the positions for next year's vote, which has pros and cons.

[pmoon6]

But he played well. Give him some money and make him happy.I'll give him 7 million a year for 5 years. More than you or I will make in a lifetime.

[YardRat]

I think it shows the respect those players have in the league. Pro Bowl rosters are selected by 1/3 fan vote, 1/3 player vote and 1/3 coaches vote. Byrd, Ngata and Willis are great players that opposing players and coaches hold in high regard, which is why they ended up on the team. Stats or injuries aside, those guys are held in high regard by opposing players and coaches because they know they impact games. They have had to prepare to play against them, and that is why they ened up on the roster.


All 3 of those guys are great players, the best at their positions. Even if they didn't have their usual year for various reasons, the regard that opposing players and coaches have for them remains.

You just described 'popularity contest' to a 'T'.

Pro Bowls should be based on performance, and Kiko outperformed Willis in every aspect of the game.

[Mouldsie]

Byrd certainly deserves it. He is a top 3 safety in the NFL

[Mouldsie]

Glad to see Dareus didn't make it.
He sucked against the run.
Pro Football Focus: Top 5 DTs vs. the run: Damon Harrison (+35.3), Brandon Mebane (+19.9), Marcell Dareus (+17.2), Randy Starks (+16.9), Tony McDaniel (+15.1)

[JCBills]

Pro Football Focus: Top 5 DTs vs. the run: Damon Harrison (+35.3), Brandon Mebane (+19.9), Marcell Dareus (+17.2), Randy Starks (+16.9), Tony McDaniel (+15.1)

He doesn't like facts to get in the way of his delusion.

[venis2k1]

In a normal year it wouldn't be a pro bowl season, but it was good and the free safety pickings were pretty slim. Some have suggested merging the positions for next year's vote, which has pros and cons.

Im shocked Ed Reed didnt get the nod.

[TacklingDummy]

Pro Football Focus: Top 5 DTs vs. the run: Damon Harrison (+35.3), Brandon Mebane (+19.9), Marcell Dareus (+17.2), Randy Starks (+16.9), Tony McDaniel (+15.1)

And yet not one of them made the pro bowl, interesting.
I guess people go by more than stats.
Personally I base my opinion on watching the game.

[kishoph]

And yet not one of them made the pro bowl, interesting.
I guess people go by more than stats.
Personally I base my opinion on watching the game.


The reason some of them didn't make the Pro Bowl is they are not popular everyday names or they play on teams like the Bills or Dolphins and their places are taken by players like Ngata (a known name) who make it during a very average season. Dareus and Starks had very good years and both should have been chosen over at least Ngata. You also have players that play in different schemes, even though they're DT's, Dareus does not play the same as Gerald McCoy, or Justin Smith (can he really be considered a DT ?).

[Mouldsie]

And yet not one of them made the pro bowl, interesting.
I guess people go by more than stats.
Personally I base my opinion on watching the game.
Stats?