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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513

    The OBD train

    Have any of you ever heard of the train principle of business management?

    The basics of it go like this... 10% of an organization pull the train. They are the employees that are doers, creative, selfless... train pullers! 80% of the organization are along for the ride. They are the employees that quite simply do their jobs. The remaining 10% of the organization are draggers. These are the people that slow the train down. They for whatever reason, aren't of any benefit to the train and in fact are working against that trains progress.

    The job of the train's manager is to reward the train pullers, motivate the riders, and cut off the draggers.

    This makes sense to me and in my experience works as a basic business management philosophy to structure around.

    So fellow zoners... assume you are the Bills' train engineer. What players fit into which of the three categories. Heading into this offseason... what moves would you suggest if you were to use the train principle as your decision making guide?
  • Novacane
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 42348

    #2
    Re: The OBD train

    Pullers: Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, Kiko. I think EJ is pulling but may not have the talent to help. I'm sure there are more. These are the obvious ones to me.

    draggers: Are you talking guys that just plain suck? Our offensive guards! If you mean talented but not worth it guys I think Stevie Johnson is a dragger. It seems Marone may think Spiller is one. I'm sure there are a couple that will be sent packing in the offseason that will surprise us.
    Last edited by Novacane; 12-29-2013, 07:53 AM.

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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107452

      #3
      Re: The OBD train

      Pullers: Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Eric Wood, Fred Jackson, Cordy Glenn

      I would add Kiko but the 10% limits me to 5 so that's my five.

      Draggers: Erik Pears, and I can't think of anymore. Sure there are plenty of guys who suck or whose attitudes need adjustment but none of that is measurable on the field because we don't know the inner workings of the locker room.
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      • coastal
        Legendary Zoner
        • Mar 2005
        • 15513

        #4
        Re: The OBD train

        based on Wood's (a puller) comments this week, it appears that Thad Lewis may be a puller.

        even if his talents relegate to a backup QB role, he clearly is "leading by example."

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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86146

          #5
          Re: The OBD train

          Didn't you start this same thread last season around this time?
          YardRat Wall of Fame
          #56 DARRYL TALLEY
          #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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          • coastal
            Legendary Zoner
            • Mar 2005
            • 15513

            #6
            Re: The OBD train

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            Didn't you start this same thread last season around this time?
            So what if I did? It's a good concept so answer the ****ing question or GTFO.

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86146

              #7
              Re: The OBD train

              Pullers-K.Williams, M. Dareus, E.Wood, F.Jackson, K.Alonzo.
              Draggers-CJ Spiller, S.Johnson, J.Byrd, E.Pears, Legursky.
              YardRat Wall of Fame
              #56 DARRYL TALLEY
              #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86146

                #8
                Re: The OBD train

                Originally posted by coastal View Post
                So what if I did? It's a good concept so answer the ****ing question or GTFO.
                Don't get ****ty with me, dickwad, you can change your attitude or go **** yourself.
                YardRat Wall of Fame
                #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                • coastal
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15513

                  #9
                  Re: The OBD train

                  Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                  Don't get ****ty with me, dickwad, you can change your attitude or go **** yourself.
                  Kiss

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                  • YardRat
                    Well, lookie here...
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 86146

                    #10
                    Re: The OBD train

                    :hug:
                    YardRat Wall of Fame
                    #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                    #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                    • coastal
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 15513

                      #11
                      Re: The OBD train

                      Pullers: Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, Eric Wood

                      Draggers: Erik Pears, Legursky, Urbik

                      * last year Mario was a dragger and is on the train and doing his job this year. He should be a puller and isn't.

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                      • Bills Juggernaut
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 343

                        #12
                        Re: The OBD train

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                        Pullers: Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Eric Wood, Fred Jackson, Cordy Glenn

                        I would add Kiko but the 10% limits me to 5 so that's my five.

                        Draggers: Erik Pears, and I can't think of anymore. Sure there are plenty of guys who suck or whose attitudes need adjustment but none of that is measurable on the field because we don't know the inner workings of the locker room.

                        So you're thinking T with our first if one of the top two falls then? Or do you think Harriston can possibly fill the position when back next year?

                        Question though, if one does fall, do we put them at right tackle or move Glenn to right tackle and have the first-round pick play left tackle?

                        Do you see any possible starting RT in round two or three that might work?
                        The One and Only

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                        • Famous Amos
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 583

                          #13
                          Re: The OBD train

                          guys that are just doing their job...
                          Aaron Williams
                          Jerry Hughes
                          Cordy Glenn (not a puller yet)
                          Leodis McKelvin (needs to get his hands on more ints)
                          Robert Woods


                          EJ Manuel could be in this group but he just hasnt played well enough. Doesnt mean he's bad player, just hasnt shown enough in his limited time.
                          "Hate is a lack of imagination."
                          -Graham Greene

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                          • Mr. Pink
                            Peterman Sucks!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 35303

                            #14
                            Re: The OBD train

                            Pullers - Fred Jackson, Eric Wood, Kyle Williams, Kiko Alonso, Garrison Sanborn

                            Draggers - EJ Manuel, CJ Spiller, Legursky, Gilmore, Pears

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                            • GvilleBills
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 862

                              #15
                              Re: The OBD train

                              This is an interesting concept thread, but I'm not sure if it directly applies. I'm assuming the businesses that apply this principle have more than 53 employees. The 10-80-10 may need to be adjusted for the smaller work force.
                              Diehard BillGator... best of both worlds

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