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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513

    What is needed to make the D elite?

    Ok... after umpteen failures with coordinator hires on the both sides of the ball, it appears that Pettine is a keeper.

    ive always been a fan of building a dominant D to go with a power running team.

    We we appear to be on the verge of perhaps having both.

    The O aside... what do you all think is needed to make this defense elite?

    i think they need a pure, space eater and NT, a fill and kill MLB ala Brandon Spikes and one last Probowl caliber versatile LBer.
  • Novacane
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 42369

    #2
    Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

    I agree with you. A couple more LB and one that's dominant. I know you said the O aside but an offense that keeps them off the field a little more often may be the biggest defensive need.

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    • Fixxxer
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 676

      #3
      Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

      Right now, we need an improvement from the Moats/Bradham tandem and Gilmore needs to be more focused on his assignment, on broken plays (the QB pressured out of the pocket) he loses sight of the player he is covering.

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86278

        #4
        Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

        I agree, but I would add a FS that's football smart, has a ton of speed and can hit like a truck.
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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

          Originally posted by coastal View Post
          Ok... after umpteen failures with coordinator hires on the both sides of the ball, it appears that Pettine is a keeper.

          ive always been a fan of building a dominant D to go with a power running team.

          We we appear to be on the verge of perhaps having both.

          The O aside... what do you all think is needed to make this defense elite?

          i think they need a pure, space eater and NT, a fill and kill MLB ala Brandon Spikes and one last Probowl caliber versatile LBer.
          Keep Byrd
          Keep the DL in tact
          Add a big-time play-making OLB
          Add another solid CB to push McKelvin or be the primary #3 CB

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          • coastal
            Legendary Zoner
            • Mar 2005
            • 15513

            #6
            Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

            Originally posted by X-Era View Post
            Keep Byrd
            Keep the DL in tact
            Add a big-time play-making OLB
            Add another solid CB to push McKelvin or be the primary #3 CB
            so u would like K. Mack as our pick?

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            • TacklingDummy
              Unreachable Douche
              • Jul 2002
              • 71725

              #7
              Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

              A QB that helps keep them off the field and fresh.

              KneeJ 92 out of 135 drives that ended with 5 plays or less kills the defense.

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86278

                #8
                Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                Keep Byrd
                Keep the DL in tact
                Add a big-time play-making OLB
                Add another solid CB to push McKelvin or be the primary #3 CB
                You get a thumper for the middle, and Kiko becomes the big-time play-making OLB..shores up both inside and outside, improves two positions with one move. Screw Byrd, I'd rather see what Duke Williams has to offer at this point and spend the money on a MLB and DT, plus an o-linemen for the offense with the same money. I am definitely on board with getting another CB though.
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                • tomz
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1786

                  #9
                  Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                  Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                  Keep Byrd
                  Keep the DL in tact
                  Add a big-time play-making OLB
                  Add another solid CB to push McKelvin or be the primary #3 CB
                  I have a question about LB terminology people use. The hybrid defense brings this on.

                  Aren't Manny Lawson and Jerry Hughes our outside LBs? I am comfortable with either. A previous poster mentioned the Bradham/Moats combo. Isn't that where the upgrade is needed? Then that would be the target for an upgrade. Similarly, the run-stuffing DT comment from another poster begs the question of which DT (Dareus, K. Williams, Branch) do you take time from?

                  I am definitely on-board with picking up Mack or someone of his ilk. I think that is our best single D move.

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                  • coastal
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15513

                    #10
                    Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                    Originally posted by tomz View Post
                    I have a question about LB terminology people use. The hybrid defense brings this on.

                    Aren't Manny Lawson and Jerry Hughes our outside LBs? I am comfortable with either. A previous poster mentioned the Bradham/Moats combo. Isn't that where the upgrade is needed? Then that would be the target for an upgrade. Similarly, the run-stuffing DT comment from another poster begs the question of which DT (Dareus, K. Williams, Branch) do you take time from?
                    It's a good question and one I have as well. As far as versatility... CJ Mosley might be the player they are looking at but is he another Kiko?

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                    • Jry44
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 607

                      #11
                      Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                      Originally posted by coastal View Post
                      Ok... after umpteen failures with coordinator hires on the both sides of the ball, it appears that Pettine is a keeper.

                      ive always been a fan of building a dominant D to go with a power running team.

                      We we appear to be on the verge of perhaps having both.

                      The O aside... what do you all think is needed to make this defense elite?

                      i think they need a pure, space eater and NT, a fill and kill MLB ala Brandon Spikes and one last Probowl caliber versatile LBer.
                      Ive actually read somewhere that some feel that Kiko Slonso would be very special if he were moved to the outside. Get a solid MLB and add another piece to the other side of alonso and I think you would have it.

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                      • coastal
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 15513

                        #12
                        Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                        Originally posted by Jry44 View Post
                        Ive actually read somewhere that some feel that Kiko Slonso would be very special if he were moved to the outside. Get a solid MLB and add another piece to the other side of alonso and I think you would have it.
                        wouldn't surprise me to see CJ Mosley as a Bill then.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86278

                          #13
                          Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                          Mosley is about the same size as Kiko, isn't he? I'd rather see somebody like Skov or Borland in the second round or, even better, get the MLB from FA.
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                          • Jry44
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                            • Apr 2013
                            • 607

                            #14
                            Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                            Mosley is about the same size as Kiko, isn't he? I'd rather see somebody like Skov or Borland in the second round or, even better, get the MLB from FA.
                            I would absolutely love Skov

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                            • coastal
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 15513

                              #15
                              Re: What is needed to make the D elite?

                              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                              Mosley is about the same size as Kiko, isn't he? I'd rather see somebody like Skov or Borland in the second round or, even better, get the MLB from FA.
                              Size they are very similar, but one area where CJ is vastly superior to Kiko is instincts and being consistent with his assignments. Sliding Kiko outside to the weakside and letting him be more creative may play into his strengths while bringing in CJ to be the responsible but just as versatile MLB they still need.

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