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ghz in pittsburgh
01-15-2014, 11:29 AM
Greg Robinson, which would instantly fill LG position.

The last buffalo fan
01-15-2014, 11:38 AM
Trade down, get the best OG or OT, then the best TE or WR availables even if we do no resign J. Byrd.

stuckincincy
01-15-2014, 11:43 AM
Grab CIN LT Anthony Collins in FA (took 389 pass-blocking snaps in place of Andrew Whitworth, allowing zero sacks and one qb hit) and move Glenn inside?

IlluminatusUIUC
01-15-2014, 11:45 AM
Guards are easy to find. All you need is a top 10 draft pick. See?

THATHURMANATOR
01-15-2014, 11:47 AM
YUCKKKKK

SpikedLemonade
01-15-2014, 11:50 AM
That would be an excellent draft pick and give us faith that the Bills finally understand the importance of building a a very good OL.

The last buffalo fan
01-15-2014, 11:51 AM
Grab CIN LT Anthony Collins in FA (took 389 pass-blocking snaps in place of Andrew Whitworth, allowing zero sacks and one qb hit) and move Glenn inside?

Good option! He is coming from a passing first team, so I guess he is a great player with great numbers, but is he better than Cordy? I don't know about you, but I think that C and LT are the only spots on our OL that do not require upgrades or any kind of move with them.

EDS
01-15-2014, 12:03 PM
That would be an excellent draft pick and give us faith that the Bills finally understand the importance of building a a very good OL.

But if he turns about to be good and wants to be paid, than obviously guard is an easy position to fill and the organization is smart not to invest much money in the position.

stuckincincy
01-15-2014, 12:15 PM
Good option! He is coming from a passing first team, so I guess he is a great player with great numbers, but is he better than Cordy? I don't know about you, but I think that C and LT are the only spots on our OL that do not require upgrades or any kind of move with them.

The OP was talking about a guard. The Bills' OL remains a question mark; 3 seconds 'n pass with Fitz and now hurry-up quick-snap. Band-aid strategy?

The Jokeman
01-15-2014, 01:04 PM
Greg Robinson, which would instantly fill LG position.

Right player wrong position, kick him to RT to develop for a year or two and then shift him to LT when Glenn bolts as an UFA when we don't give him the money he wants. As it's what we did with Jonas Jennings and Jason Peters and Langston Walker etc.

Bill Cody
01-15-2014, 01:10 PM
I'm not looking to draft QB but if Bridgewater was still there at 8 I might be

We won't be drafting OL top ten. The only time that makes sense is LT and we have one.

Buffalogic
01-15-2014, 01:12 PM
No way a QB doesn't get drafted at 2 AND 3. No way.

The Jokeman
01-15-2014, 01:13 PM
I'm not looking to draft QB but if Bridgewater was still there at 8 I might be

We won't be drafting OL top ten. The only time that makes sense is LT and we have one.

While I tend to agree with you let's not forget the Chiefs used the top pick on an O-lineman last year and he played RT. Yet he's probably getting shift to LT as don't think their going to keep Brandon Albert another year.

Buffalogic
01-15-2014, 01:19 PM
I'd be mad at the Bucs for continually stealing the LB's I covet. First David, then Mack? Apparently Tampa is the new 49ers when it comes to ganking our future LB's.

BertSquirtgum
01-15-2014, 01:23 PM
Mike Evans.

Buffalogic
01-15-2014, 01:25 PM
While I tend to agree with you let's not forget the Chiefs used the top pick on an O-lineman last year and he played RT. Yet he's probably getting shift to LT as don't think their going to keep Brandon Albert another year.
Fisher was drafted as a LT but couldn't cut it in his first season and was moved to RT.

Dr. Lecter
01-15-2014, 01:34 PM
How cool would have it been had the Bills not shipped Peters out of town?

TigerJ
01-15-2014, 01:35 PM
If Buffalo did draft Robinson, it would likely be to replace Pears. Glenn is rock solid on the left, and I think if Buffalo wasn't convinced they could upgrade left guard from within the organization (Unga?) they would draft someone in a later round.

HAMMER
01-15-2014, 01:36 PM
Would be an excellent pick, control the trenches.

ghz in pittsburgh
01-15-2014, 02:00 PM
Robinson is mostly though to be playing inside at NFL. He does not have the agility to fend off speed rushers.

EDS
01-15-2014, 03:27 PM
Robinson is mostly though to be playing inside at NFL. He does not have the agility to fend off speed rushers.

I think Robinson could play tackle i the NFL. I would not be surprised at all if the Bills draft a tackle in the first round, though I don't think that would be the direction I would go.

ghz in pittsburgh
01-15-2014, 03:46 PM
Not to say Kiper's word is god or he has any inside info. But I do see Bills could go that way if the top LB and WR are gone. Robinson will start his career at LG, but he could be a remote backup for Pears and to be a candidate to replace Pears which maybe just a year or two away. Regardless, I don't see the Bills move Glenn anywhere. If anything, I see them extend him at the end of next year if he continues to progress.

better days
01-15-2014, 04:05 PM
I'm not looking to draft QB but if Bridgewater was still there at 8 I might be

We won't be drafting OL top ten. The only time that makes sense is LT and we have one.

So you would trade next years #1 pick to move up one spot for Bridgewater?

Night Train
01-15-2014, 05:20 PM
Kiper and Whaley don't look related.

X-Era
01-15-2014, 06:02 PM
I hate this mock because all the players I like are gone by 9... If it goes this way and we're on the clock, I'd trade down.

TacklingDummy
01-15-2014, 06:57 PM
I hate this mock because all the players I like are gone by 9... If it goes this way and we're on the clock, I'd trade down.

The problem with trading down is who worth trading up for?

There only about 4 players I'd trade up for, all those would be gone by the time the Bills pick.

mightysimi
01-15-2014, 07:28 PM
No way a QB doesn't get drafted at 2 AND 3. No way.

Rams have already said they are rolling with Bradford. They have other needs. I don't see Bridgewater getting past the Raiders at 5 though.

X-Era
01-15-2014, 07:46 PM
The problem with trading down is who worth trading up for?

There only about 4 players I'd trade up for, all those would be gone by the time the Bills pick.A QB or LT prospect.

YardRat
01-15-2014, 08:08 PM
If they draft Robinson it will be to replace Pears, not LG. Legursky will be replaced by a FA, or someone already under contract.

Mace
01-15-2014, 09:40 PM
If they draft Robinson it will be to replace Pears, not LG. Legursky will be replaced by a FA, or someone already under contract.

Agree, Robinson is a vicious mauling slab of beef perfect for RT, or either guard slot assuming we don't take a guard who plays guard. RT RT RT. Too high too high too high for an RT or guard though. Trade down trade down trade down.

Skooby
01-15-2014, 10:42 PM
Johnny Football might be #1 now.

Mouldsie
01-15-2014, 11:54 PM
I think I'd rather have Ebron

sukie
01-16-2014, 07:25 AM
God No!!!! DO NOT PICK OLINE at that spot!!!! For the love of GOD and all that is holy... TRADE DOWN.

gr8slayer
01-16-2014, 07:42 AM
I'll never complain about a team going OL/DL; love it.

coastal
01-16-2014, 07:48 AM
He's a mauler in the running game. Totally cool with the pick. Totally cool with him playing LG.

Ed
01-16-2014, 10:36 AM
I love the pick, but I would put him at RT. Guard should be a top priority in free agency. I'd like to see us add a vet starter at LG and then use a middle round pick on an interior OL for depth/competition.

DraftBoy
01-16-2014, 10:40 AM
Plug and play at LG or RT. Good pick.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-16-2014, 10:43 AM
So you would trade next years #1 pick to move up one spot for Bridgewater?

You wouldn't need next year's first to move up one spot. If anything, it would be easier and maybe even cheaper to jump Minnesota in that situation and get Tampa's pick to take Teddy.

justasportsfan
01-16-2014, 11:11 AM
While it's not a sexy pick ,we have to remember that EJ gets sacked a lot in away games. A great OL could make us the top rushing team.

jimmifli
01-16-2014, 12:59 PM
I'll never complain about a team going OL/DL; love it.
I'll never complain about taking the best 300lbr.

Some of the little DE's scare me.

Meathead
01-16-2014, 01:29 PM
I'll never complain about taking the best 300lbr.


especially the closer you get to last call

The Jokeman
01-16-2014, 04:58 PM
A QB or LT prospect.

There aren't many teams drafting beneath the Bills that need a QB. The only ones you could debate are the Titans and the Browns (if they elect not to take a QB at pick 4). In terms of the need for a LT there are some but not sure if anyone would trade up to get Richardson (since most think Jake Matthews will be gone by pick 9). That said Tavon Austin's stock rose significantly before draft day and we made suckers out of the Rams, maybe we can do the same with some other team this year. As to me the only 3 guys on my short lit to draft at pick 9 are Mack, Richardson and Mosely (yet I think he's a bit of a reach but most draftniks peg him as a top 12 talent so I'd be willing to risk getting him than not).

1. Houston Texans (2-14; SOS .559)
2. St. Louis Rams via Washington Redskins (3-13; .516)
3. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12; .504)
4. Cleveland Browns (4-12; .516)
5. Oakland Raiders (4-12; .523)
6. Atlanta Falcons (4-12; .553)
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-12; .574)
8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1; .512)
9. Buffalo Bills (6-10; .520)

10. Detroit Lions (7-9; .457)
11. Tennessee Titans (7-9; .504)
12. Giants (7-9; .520)
13. St. Louis Rams (7-9; .551)
14. Chicago Bears (7-9; .465)
15. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8; .469)
*16. Baltimore Ravens (8-8; .484)
*17. Dallas Cowboys (8-8; .484)
18. Jets (8-8; .488)
19. Miami Dolphins (8-8; .523)
20. Arizona Cardinals (10-6; .517)
21. Green Bay Packers (8-7-1; .453)
22. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6; .453)
23. Kansas City Chiefs (11-5; .445)
24. Cincinnati Bengals (11-5; .480)
25. San Diego Chargers (9-7; .496)
26. Cleveland Browns via Indianapolis Colts (11-5; .484)
27. New Orleans Saints (11-5; .516)
28. Carolina Panthers (12-4; .494)
--29. New England Patriots (12-4; .473)
--30. San Francisco 49ers (12-4; .494)
--31. Denver Broncos (13-3; .469)
--32. Seattle Seahawks (13-3; .490)

BillsFever21
01-16-2014, 05:03 PM
especially the closer you get to last call

Hey they can be a lot of fun. They will do anything for you and they won't hassle you very much. Then probably the best of all they all like eating the sausage and most do a pretty good job at it whenever you want them to.

Skooby
01-16-2014, 05:16 PM
But if he turns about to be good and wants to be paid, than obviously guard is an easy position to fill and the organization is smart not to invest much money in the position.

Bingo, end game.

BuffaloWingEater
01-16-2014, 05:56 PM
That would be an excellent draft pick and give us faith that the Bills finally understand the importance of building a a very good OL.
They understand and let levitre get away

Mace
01-16-2014, 06:15 PM
There aren't many teams drafting beneath the Bills that need a QB. The only ones you could debate are the Titans and the Browns (if they elect not to take a QB at pick 4). In terms of the need for a LT there are some but not sure if anyone would trade up to get Richardson (since most think Jake Matthews will be gone by pick 9). That said Tavon Austin's stock rose significantly before draft day and we made suckers out of the Rams, maybe we can do the same with some other team this year. As to me the only 3 guys on my short lit to draft at pick 9 are Mack, Richardson and Mosely (yet I think he's a bit of a reach but most draftniks peg him as a top 12 talent so I'd be willing to risk getting him than not).

1. Houston Texans (2-14; SOS .559)
2. St. Louis Rams via Washington Redskins (3-13; .516)
3. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12; .504)
4. Cleveland Browns (4-12; .516)
5. Oakland Raiders (4-12; .523)
6. Atlanta Falcons (4-12; .553)
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-12; .574)
8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1; .512)
9. Buffalo Bills (6-10; .520)

10. Detroit Lions (7-9; .457)
11. Tennessee Titans (7-9; .504)
12. Giants (7-9; .520)
13. St. Louis Rams (7-9; .551)
14. Chicago Bears (7-9; .465)
15. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8; .469)
*16. Baltimore Ravens (8-8; .484)
*17. Dallas Cowboys (8-8; .484)
18. Jets (8-8; .488)
19. Miami Dolphins (8-8; .523)
20. Arizona Cardinals (10-6; .517)
21. Green Bay Packers (8-7-1; .453)
22. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6; .453)
23. Kansas City Chiefs (11-5; .445)
24. Cincinnati Bengals (11-5; .480)
25. San Diego Chargers (9-7; .496)
26. Cleveland Browns via Indianapolis Colts (11-5; .484)
27. New Orleans Saints (11-5; .516)
28. Carolina Panthers (12-4; .494)
--29. New England Patriots (12-4; .473)
--30. San Francisco 49ers (12-4; .494)
--31. Denver Broncos (13-3; .469)
--32. Seattle Seahawks (13-3; .490)

At this point you just don't know, I've seen mocks with Jake Matthews slipping down to the Bills and I remember when the mock frenzy had Blaine Gabbert here.

I could live with about anything not ridiculous like a punter or kicker or QB or running back this time around.

BillsFever21
01-16-2014, 06:49 PM
They better not draft a guard in the first couple rounds. That would be the Bills drafting a guard early in the draft after letting Levitre walk.

I would like to see the best available player between LB or OT and maybe WR. I doubt the top WR like Watkins will be available and I wouldn't go that high for Mike Evans or Marquise Lee. If we went for a big body then could get somebody like Kelvin Benjamin, etc in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Mace
01-16-2014, 07:53 PM
They better not draft a guard in the first couple rounds. That would be the Bills drafting a guard early in the draft after letting Levitre walk.

Well, it's smarter to fix something fast after you blow it as opposed to pretending it didn't happen.

Won't be a guard first round unless they trade down and get multiple picks.

Robinson is not just a guard imho btw.

BuffaloRedleg
01-17-2014, 04:35 AM
If we take an OL then we better bring in a WR in FA.

I'm done with the yearly excuses for why our QBs aren't great.

I imagine EJ is our guy next year, I don't want there to be any excuses. Give him all the weapons he needs and the protection he needs. Any defensive pick at top 2 is an absolute waste in this regard.

Dr. Lecter
01-17-2014, 04:57 AM
There aren't many teams drafting beneath the Bills that need a QB. The only ones you could debate are the Titans and the Browns (if they elect not to take a QB at pick 4). In terms of the need for a LT there are some but not sure if anyone would trade up to get Richardson (since most think Jake Matthews will be gone by pick 9). That said Tavon Austin's stock rose significantly before draft day and we made suckers out of the Rams, maybe we can do the same with some other team this year. As to me the only 3 guys on my short lit to draft at pick 9 are Mack, Richardson and Mosely (yet I think he's a bit of a reach but most draftniks peg him as a top 12 talent so I'd be willing to risk getting him than not).





Arizona too. Palmer is not a kid.

feldspar
01-17-2014, 05:33 AM
Kiper had the Bills taking a Guard in the first round last year, too. He had us taking Jonathan Cooper in his final mock draft, I believe. The Cardinals took him at #7, right before the Bills were slotted to pick. Cooper being gone is probably why the Bills traded down and picked a QB and a LB in the process. LOL. Anyway, Cooper was put on IR in the preseason.

Kiper has no clue what the Bills will do, and you gotta pay ESPN to look at his ****. All these 20 million mock drafts start to get on my nerves after a while.

alohabillsfan
01-17-2014, 06:35 AM
Cool in 2015 with the 8th overall pick the bills select S_______ fill in the blank. Followed by the firing i
Of maroone, cj will be gone so we will select a WR or RB early in the first of the 2016 draft then trade back into the first to reach on a QB that will surely fail. Wash, rinse repeat!

better days
01-17-2014, 08:41 AM
If we take an OL then we better bring in a WR in FA.

I'm done with the yearly excuses for why our QBs aren't great.

I imagine EJ is our guy next year, I don't want there to be any excuses. Give him all the weapons he needs and the protection he needs. Any defensive pick at top 2 is an absolute waste in this regard.

LB is a huge need as well.

I would be happy to see a LB drafted in the 1st or 2nd.............unless the Bills sign Spikes as a FA.

HAMMER
01-17-2014, 09:08 AM
Hey they can be a lot of fun. They will do anything for you and they won't hassle you very much. Then probably the best of all they all like eating the sausage and most do a pretty good job at it whenever you want them to.

Somebody has some experience with the fatty's, and liked it! Hey, fat girls need lovin too, more power to ya.

better days
01-17-2014, 09:23 AM
Arizona too. Palmer is not a kid.

Romo in Dallas is not a kid either.

If Dallas had a GM, he would be looking for a QB to develop behind Romo.

gr8slayer
01-17-2014, 04:36 PM
That contract last season basically sealed the deal, Romo isn't going anywhere for a while. Jones is also the type that doesn't want to put any pressure on Romo, because going out and getting a QB to develop wouldn't be "Romo friendly".
Romo in Dallas is not a kid either.

If Dallas had a GM, he would be looking for a QB to develop behind Romo.

better days
01-17-2014, 05:10 PM
That contract last season basically sealed the deal, Romo isn't going anywhere for a while. Jones is also the type that doesn't want to put any pressure on Romo, because going out and getting a QB to develop wouldn't be "Romo friendly".

I get what you are saying. I hope Jerry rides with Romo to the end of that contract.

B-DON
01-18-2014, 04:00 AM
Raiders definitely need a qb. Texans could take one. Jaguars need one as well. Silly to say only two teams ahead of the bills need a qb

Jan Reimers
01-18-2014, 04:48 AM
Lose Levitre, use the Number 9 overall pick to replace him. Going sideways as usual.

sudzy
01-18-2014, 05:22 AM
Don't get caught up on the word "Guard." I've seen reports that Robinson might have passed Matthews as the best "Tackle" in this draft. Now, Glenn already playing well at LT. LG or RT might be a good spot to start this kid week 1 without reshuffling this whole O-line. But, I wouldn't be surprised if, in a year or two down the road Robinson would be their starting LT and Glenn is playing LG or RT.

YardRat
01-18-2014, 05:31 AM
Lose Levitre, use the Number 9 overall pick to replace him. Going sideways as usual.

How about waiting until they actually make the pick to pass judgement?

The odds of them taking a G at #9 is probably less than 1%. OT? That's a different story.

pmoon6
01-18-2014, 07:10 AM
How about waiting until they actually make the pick to pass judgement?

The odds of them taking a G at #9 is probably less than 1%. OT? That's a different story.Please don't stop the knee jerkers from posting their idiotic opinions.

The world needs more laughter and comedy.

feldspar
01-18-2014, 08:17 AM
Please don't stop the knee jerkers from posting their idiotic opinions.


As if this were possible...

Albany,n.y.
01-18-2014, 09:33 AM
God No!!!! DO NOT PICK OLINE at that spot!!!! For the love of GOD and all that is holy... TRADE DOWN.

Here's why I hate trade downs. Unless you have a specific player targeted that you know will be there in the spot you are trading down to, it's pure folly. The team trading with you knows the player they want & you don't, so it's already in part a lopsided trade. On the other hand, you can successfully trade down like the Bills have done twice when they knew Conlan & Manuel would fall to their new draft slot, and not get burned. But if you trade down blindly, you get a Trevor Matich for Jerry Rice deal. Worked great for SF, not so good for NE.

feldspar
01-18-2014, 11:07 AM
A butt-ugly monster who has a nasty mean streak with a cool name is AOK with me. That's the guy I want.

The Jokeman
01-18-2014, 12:16 PM
Arizona too. Palmer is not a kid.




Romo in Dallas is not a kid either.

If Dallas had a GM, he would be looking for a QB to develop behind Romo.

I can't see either of these teams looking to trade up though to take a replacement. They may sit where they're drafting now and pluck a QB if one fell to them or maybe taking a mid round on a development guy like Jimmy Garoppolo or David Fales.

pmoon6
01-18-2014, 01:15 PM
Here's why I hate trade downs. Unless you have a specific player targeted that you know will be there in the spot you are trading down to, it's pure folly. The team trading with you knows the player they want & you don't, so it's already in part a lopsided trade. On the other hand, you can successfully trade down like the Bills have done twice when they knew Conlan & Manuel would fall to their new draft slot, and not get burned. But if you trade down blindly, you get a Trevor Matich for Jerry Rice deal. Worked great for SF, not so good for NE.You trade down because the guy you wanted is no longer there and you get a extra pick or two. You still get a good player.

stuckincincy
01-18-2014, 01:18 PM
You trade down because the guy you wanted is no longer there and you get a extra pick or two. You still get a good player.

And given the rookie cap structure, more can be better.

JoeMama
01-18-2014, 05:52 PM
Greg Robinson, which would instantly fill LG position.

I'd like to see us trade down and pull another team's pants down like we did with the Rams, then go TE or G.

Kiko Alonso bears mute witness to our brilliance last year.