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  • THE END OF ALL DAYS
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    • Feb 2005
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    Nfl dumping PAT?

    This is a weird idea
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  • OpIv37
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    • Sep 2002
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    I'm in. 7 for a TD- option to go for 2- 8 if you make it, 6 if you miss. Speed it up and don't waste time on an automatic play.
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    • YardRat
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      • Dec 2004
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      Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

      I usually have a little bit of an aversion to change, but the 7, 8 or 6 pts idea is kind of intriguing. Might add a pretty exciting element to the game.
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      • Buffalogic
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        • Feb 2006
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        Sooner the better

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        • OpIv37
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          • Sep 2002
          • 101313

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          Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          I usually have a little bit of an aversion to change, but the 7, 8 or 6 pts idea is kind of intriguing. Might add a pretty exciting element to the game.
          My initial reaction was to keep things the way they are, but then I realized I was doing something that the Virginia legislature is infamous for that I hate: using "Because we've always done it that way" as a legitimate justification.

          I'm sure that at some point in the history of the game, kicking the xp made sense. Now, it doesn't. Time to move on.
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          • better days
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            • Jan 2010
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            Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            I'm in. 7 for a TD- option to go for 2- 8 if you make it, 6 if you miss. Speed it up and don't waste time on an automatic play.
            How about this instead.

            Make the extra point a longer kick. 10 -20 yds longer.

            And if the kick is not good, the other team has the option of getting the ball at the spot of the kick.

            And you are NOT going to speed the game up anyway.

            The NFL & TV Networks want that time for commercials.
            Last edited by better days; 01-21-2014, 11:34 PM.

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            • jimmifli
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              • Nov 2006
              • 7827

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              Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              I'm sure that at some point in the history of the game, kicking the xp made sense. Now, it doesn't. Time to move on.
              Before specialized kickers?

              I always skip it anyways. TD = instant beer, food or piss break. Especially now since all the kickoffs are touchbacks (well for most of the NFL anyways). I can skip a bunch of commercials and irrelevant plays. The networks are probably having trouble selling those spots for full value. All the dvr and internet streams give advertisers more data about viewing habits, coupled with some recall tests and advertisers have a pretty good idea on real viewership during each ad slot. Changing to an instant 7 points means it's only one break after the TD or kickoff. The networks will still get the same number of ads in, but there won't be as long a time between irrelevant plays.

              Works for me. It's a silly play.

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              • imbondz
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                • Jan 2003
                • 26041

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                Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                how about the kicker has to kick all extra pts with his opposite foot?
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                • imbondz
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  I'm in. 7 for a TD- option to go for 2- 8 if you make it, 6 if you miss. Speed it up and don't waste time on an automatic play.
                  that's not going to speed things up. if anything that will make things longer. don't mind it tho. going for 2 is always exciting.
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                  • jimmifli
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                    • Nov 2006
                    • 7827

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                    Originally posted by imbondz View Post
                    how about the kicker has to kick all extra pts with his opposite foot?
                    Must be kicked by a player over 300lbs. I'd love to watch Cordy trying to kick a PAT.

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                    • YardRat
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86296

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                      Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                      Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
                      Must be kicked by a player over 300lbs. I'd love to watch Cordy trying to kick a PAT.
                      Well, that's one way to get production out of guys like Pears and Legursky.
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                      • Forward_Lateral
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                        I've always said this:

                        If you score a TD, you get 7. If you want to go for two, you can either try to get it in the endzone from the 2 yard line, or have the kicker line up for a 50 yard FG.

                        I'd also love to see instead of onside kicks, have a 4th and 15-20 situation from your own 20 yard line. If you convert it, you get the ball, if you don't the opponent gets it.

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                        • kishoph
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 3157

                          #13
                          Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                          Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post

                          I'd also love to see instead of onside kicks, have a 4th and 15-20 situation from your own 20 yard line. If you convert it, you get the ball, if you don't the opponent gets it.
                          Some onside kicks are still done with the element of surprise (not many), getting the ball placed for a play from scrimmage would remove that element of surprise.

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                          • ParanoidAndroid
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                            • Apr 2004
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                            #14
                            Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                            I usually have a little bit of an aversion to change, but the 7, 8 or 6 pts idea is kind of intriguing. Might add a pretty exciting element to the game.
                            That doesn't add anything. All it does is remove the extra point kick from the TD equation. The two-point conversion is already in place.

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                            • Forward_Lateral
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                              • Mar 2004
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                              Re: Nfl dumping PAT?

                              Originally posted by kishoph View Post
                              Some onside kicks are still done with the element of surprise (not many), getting the ball placed for a play from scrimmage would remove that element of surprise.
                              Yes, but it would make it a bit less than impossible to get the ball back.

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