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forget Pittsburgh and Chicago... Sabres should rebuild like the Avalanche!
forget Pittsburgh and Chicago... Sabres should rebuild like the Avalanche!
DENVER — When the Sabres started their rebuild talk, they brought up Pittsburgh and Chicago as clubs to emulate. Sure, those teams are great role models, but it would be just as wise to mimic Colorado.
No special secret to it...You either get lucky in the draft, Or you don't.
in the later rounds, sure. thats part of it. top picks though rarely miss. its unlikely the sabres would have to hold their breaths on a pick this year.
in the later rounds, sure. thats part of it. top picks though rarely miss. its unlikely the sabres would have to hold their breaths on a pick this year.
That's far from the truth,And something I been telling you for over a year,But you hold onto it as some kind of security blanket.
Just because someone was drafted in the top 5 or in the 1st round does not mean he will be anything more then roster filler.
I understand tho, The Sabres are a complete mess and you need something to hold on to for hope. (Just like a Bills fan)
The draft is not fool proof, The Rangers 4th line is basically made up of 1st round draft picks, And one of them was drafted 4th overall.
Go back and look at the draft results, It's 50-50 at best...It's crazy when you look at the past draft results and see a **** load of them don't even play more then 2 seasons in the NHL.
Re: forget Pittsburgh and Chicago... Sabres should rebuild like the Avalanche!
of course its not fool proof. but misses in the top 5 are pretty rare. they may not become the superstar they were projected, but its more likely then not theyll become a highly productive player. thats why when they do miss, its a name few ever forget.
i dont sit around and hope they develop. i expect them to, and until they dont, im going to assume projections come to fruition, im also patient. ill allow the kids a few years to develop.
of course its not fool proof. but misses in the top 5 are pretty rare. they may not become the superstar they were projected, but its more likely then not theyll become a highly productive player. thats why when they do miss, its a name few ever forget.
Look at 2008...The only guy worth a **** was Stamkos.
The rest of the 1st rounders that year have struggled to score 60 goals in total,And that's after 5 years in the NHL....
Look at 2008...The only guy worth a **** was Stamkos.
The rest of the 1st rounders that year have struggled to score 60 goals in total,And that's after 5 years in the NHL....
some drafts are stronger then others, obviously.
odds are if you draft in the top 5, you are going to get a useful, productive player. there are always exceptions, but i dont go into prospects expecting them to be exceptions.
odds are if you draft in the top 5, you are going to get a useful, productive player. there are always exceptions, but i dont go into prospects expecting them to be exceptions.
Name some Buffalo Sabre draft picks that are helping Buffalo today?
How many of their 1st rounders from the last 10 years are helping them win games?
Name some Buffalo Sabre draft picks that are helping Buffalo today?
How many of their 1st rounders from the last 10 years are helping them win games?
the problem with the sabres isnt that their picks suck. its that they always draft depth players. second/third liners. they havnt been able to secure top end talent since really vanek. you dont win with a bunch of second and third liners. you need top end talent. the sabres have done well drafting NHL talent, but not top end talent.
players like stafford, ennis, myers. theyve had good, productive seasons. obviously, stafford has dropped off, ennis doesnt have the help to contribute further, and myers is a work in progress.
then you got younger guys like pysyk, girgs, ect who arent ready to help yet. they need more time.
those teams all built through the draft, im not sure why you assume the sabres cant as well.
the sabres should rebuild like the sabres. take other teams models, but tweak them as necessary. right now, draft draft and draft some more.
i trust murray. the sabres are in fine hands. they have lots of youth at all positions. theyll be fine.
Why? He's proven nothing. Everyone trusted Pegula too. He's been disappointing. Unless your a real fan of the new carpet he installed in the locker room. Leino was his doing.
Why? He's proven nothing. Everyone trusted Pegula too. He's been disappointing. Unless your a real fan of the new carpet he installed in the locker room. Leino was his doing.
i guess murray identified several outstanding players with anahiem and ottawa, and they drafted them. with the sabres building through the draft right now, i trust his track record. jury is still out on him regarding trades and UFA signings, obviously.
the problem with the sabres isnt that their picks suck. its that they always draft depth players. second/third liners. they havnt been able to secure top end talent since really vanek. you dont win with a bunch of second and third liners. you need top end talent. the sabres have done well drafting NHL talent, but not top end talent.
players like stafford, ennis, myers. theyve had good, productive seasons. obviously, stafford has dropped off, ennis doesnt have the help to contribute further, and myers is a work in progress.
then you got younger guys like pysyk, girgs, ect who arent ready to help yet. they need more time.
those teams all built through the draft, im not sure why you assume the sabres cant as well.
So you're saying the problem is the Sabres don't draft high enough?
Out of the 250 or so players who get drafted each year, Only a handful are going to make an impact in the NHL no matter how high or how low they get drafted.
In 2004 the Hawks drafted Cam Barker 3rd overall, How's he doing?
The Black Hawks also drafted in the top 10 for 5 years strait and 4 of them picks were top 6...That's a lot of crappy seasons.
And the Penguins had 4 top 5 picks in a row.
The Hawks and Pens also got lucky with the 2004 NHL lock out, They got back to back top picks with out even playing.
So if Buffalo is going to take the Hawks and Penguins route like you say they can, You're looking at a 6 year rebuild minimum.
The Sabres would have to be picking in the top five for at least 5 years like those teams did.
Re: forget Pittsburgh and Chicago... Sabres should rebuild like the Avalanche!
sure, 5 or 6 years would probably be the minimum, if they were starting from scratch. they are not. thats why their prospect pool is rated number 2 in all of the NHL.
for every exception to the high draft rule, their are dozens who meet their potential. its not a guarantee, but im not going to look at it with expectations of a prospect to miss. if the sabres draft top 3, odds are, they are drafting a future impact player.
also, didnt we already go over the penguins rebuild? it happened in 5 years, missing the playoffs 4 seasons. the sabres are not starting from scratch. the rebuild really started at the end of 11-12, and they have some real exciting prospects because of it.
sure, 5 or 6 years would probably be the minimum, if they were starting from scratch. they are not. thats why their prospect pool is rated number 2 in all of the NHL.
for every exception to the high draft rule, their are dozens who meet their potential. its not a guarantee, but im not going to look at it with expectations of a prospect to miss. if the sabres draft top 3, odds are, they are drafting a future impact player.
also, didnt we already go over the penguins rebuild? it happened in 5 years, missing the playoffs 4 seasons. the sabres are not starting from scratch. the rebuild really started at the end of 11-12, and they have some real exciting prospects because of it.
Come on man...The Sabres have yet to hit their rock bottom.
Rankings of prospects are just for fans..It means nothing, The only thing that counts is how you play at the NHL level.
You will be watching some really ruff hockey for years to come.
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