EJ's accuracy

[JoeMama]

I looked up EJ's situational passing statistics and the results were... pleasantly surprising?

I assumed he did much worse, especially on deep balls. I also assumed his check downs would inflate his completion percentage but that doesn't appear to be the case either.

Pass attempts 1-10 yards:
57 completions/100 attempts
57.0%
71.0 QB rating

11-20 yards:
64/100
64.0%
86.0 QBR

21-30 yards: (this is where he struggled the most)
37/71
52.1%
67.2 QBR

31+ yards: (this is where I assumed he struggled most)
22/35
62.9%
94.6 QBR

http://www.nfl.com/player/ejmanuel/2539228/situationalstats

WTF? I didn't see this coming.

[justasportsfan]

Re: EJ's accuracy

does it show how much of those completions were made because the receiver had to make acrobatic catches. From what I've seen, they have had to bend down a lot or make catches thrown behind them.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: EJ's accuracy

You're reading that chart incorrectly. That's not "Passes he throws 1-10 yards" it's "How well he did on his first 10 passes in each game" What it shows is that EJ heats up a bit if he gets a lot of passing attempts.

Here's his pass chart by distance:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15803/ej-manuel

BY PASS PLAY	CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	AVG	LNG	TD	INT	SACK	RAT	ATT	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD
Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage	43	53	187	81.1	3.53	26	1	1	0	79.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 1-10 yds	103	164	990	62.8	6.04	45	4	4	0	77.5	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 11-20 yds	25	56	516	44.6	9.21	33	1	2	0	68.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 21-30 yds	6	19	154	31.6	8.11	34	3	1	0	79.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 31-40 yds	2	9	83	22.2	9.22	43	1	0	0	102.5	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 41+ yds	1	5	42	20.0	8.40	42	1	1	0	62.1	0	0	0.0	0	0

[JoeMama]

Re: EJ's accuracy

You're reading that chart incorrectly. That's not "Passes he throws 1-10 yards" it's "How well he did on his first 10 passes in each game" What it shows is that EJ heats up a bit if he gets a lot of passing attempts.

Here's his pass chart by distance:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/15803/ej-manuel

BY PASS PLAY	CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	AVG	LNG	TD	INT	SACK	RAT	ATT	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD
Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage	43	53	187	81.1	3.53	26	1	1	0	79.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 1-10 yds	103	164	990	62.8	6.04	45	4	4	0	77.5	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 11-20 yds	25	56	516	44.6	9.21	33	1	2	0	68.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 21-30 yds	6	19	154	31.6	8.11	34	3	1	0	79.8	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 31-40 yds	2	9	83	22.2	9.22	43	1	0	0	102.5	0	0	0.0	0	0
Pass Thrown 41+ yds	1	5	42	20.0	8.40	42	1	1	0	62.1	0	0	0.0	0	0

Thank you.

That makes much more sense.

My head's not in the game today.

[JCBills]

Re: EJ's accuracy

does it show how much of those completions were made because the receiver had to make acrobatic catches. From what I've seen, they have had to bend down a lot or make catches thrown behind them.

It would then also have to account for the balls that hit guys in the hands and they dropped.

[Buffalogic]

Re: EJ's accuracy

And 6 yard passes that the receiver ran for 20 yards after the catch.

[better days]

Re: EJ's accuracy

And 6 yard passes that the receiver ran for 20 yards after the catch.

Why? All catches are the same for all QB's.

There is a category for YAC.

[jdaltroy5]

Re: EJ's accuracy

Thank you.

That makes much more sense.

My head's not in the game today.

It's tough reading information without colourful graphics.

Just ask a grown up next time, big guy.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: EJ's accuracy

And 6 yard passes that the receiver ran for 20 yards after the catch.

That can be a function of good QB play. Putting it where your guys can keep running is a critical skill.

[DesertFox24]

Re: EJ's accuracy

Guys stop trying to show that EJ was not as bad everyone thinks he was because he did not Andrew Luck us into the playoffs.

He sucks always will and will never get better or improve his mechanics and become a legitimate QB in this league.

In order for him to be legitimate the four horse man of the apocalypse would have to show up and kill the other 31 starting QBs from last year.

The above is summary of opinions from posters on this board, and in now way shape or form represent the feelings of this specific poster. This specific poster who goes by the avatar "DesertFox24" believes it is way to early to tell if EJ will be any good or bust and has stated he will wait till next year.

[justasportsfan]

Re: EJ's accuracy

It would then also have to account for the balls that hit guys in the hands and they dropped.

yes it would. Especially the ones that they dropped because he was off target.

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Re: EJ's accuracy

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[Buffalogic]

Re: EJ's accuracy

That can be a function of good QB play. Putting it where your guys can keep running is a critical skill.

I would agree with you if the ball travels 40 yards in the air first. An Nfl qb should be able to place the ball correctly every time when the receiver is only 5 yards away.

[better days]

Re: EJ's accuracy

yes it would. Especially the ones that they dropped because he was off target.

You already accounted for those justa.

JCBills was referring to good throws which were dropped.

And there were a number of them as well as completions that were fumbled.

[Buffalogic]

Re: EJ's accuracy

A fumbled completion is still a completion.