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  • WagonCircler
    Escaped Convict
    • Jul 2002
    • 5876
    #1

    OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

    Seahawks star Richard Sherman says they cracked Peyton Manning's hand signal code during the Super Bowl so they were able to predict every play

    Seahawks star Richard Sherman says they cracked Peyton Manning's hand signal code during the Super Bowl so they were able to predict every play

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    Some will argue, of course, that it's part of the game.

    I don't see how this is much different than what Belichick did.

    In baseball, stealing signals is considered cheating, and I agree. It's cheating.

    Had the Seahawks used a hi-tech devise to eavesdrop on the Broncos' huddle, would that be seen as cheating? I say absolutely. This is no different.
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  • Mindbender
    Registered User
    • Apr 2010
    • 1024
    #2
    Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

    Part of the game. Would you call Manning's reading of defenses cheating?
    "Talk is cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said, don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby. That's what we've got to do. We've got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." ~Buddy Nix
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    • Meathead
      Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
      • Jul 2002
      • 21349
      #3
      Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

      idk, is visually stealing hand signals officially against the rules? honestly i dont think it should be

      in any event, being able to steal signals while watching something live is COM-PLETE-LY different than recording them. you give me tapes of an opponents signals and im going to hire a team of geeks to digitize everything, chart every signal, compare it against the gametape of what actually happened, and produce a magic batman decoder ring that will tell me what play they are running

      adding a video record of hand signals increases your ability to decode them more accurately by a factor of approximately 1,203,347.45%, so yeah id say they are very different
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      • WagonCircler
        Escaped Convict
        • Jul 2002
        • 5876
        #4
        Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

        Originally posted by Meathead View Post
        in any event, being able to steal signals while watching something live is COM-PLETE-LY different than recording them.
        How do you suppose they cracked the code? You don't think it involved recording?

        Wait, let me guess. Racism.

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        Originally posted by Mindbender View Post
        Part of the game. Would you call Manning's reading of defenses cheating?
        Apple, meet orange.

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        • Meathead
          Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
          • Jul 2002
          • 21349
          #5
          Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

          really its shame on peyton and the broncos to not be prepared to prevent them from stealing signals. thats like central to their jobs and there are established ways to get that done. so in a day full of bronco blunders that was just another huge one
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          • SquishDaFish
            Lets GO BUFFALO!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 17034
            #6
            Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

            I don't think it's cheating they figured it out during the game so I dont see that as cheating. I see that as using your brain

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            • MitchMurrayDowntown
              Skoobasaurus-Rex
              • Oct 2011
              • 22284
              #7
              Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

              Omaha.... steak.
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              • The Jokeman
                Registered User
                • Dec 2003
                • 9995
                #8
                Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                Originally posted by Meathead View Post
                idk, is visually stealing hand signals officially against the rules? honestly i dont think it should be

                in any event, being able to steal signals while watching something live is COM-PLETE-LY different than recording them. you give me tapes of an opponents signals and im going to hire a team of geeks to digitize everything, chart every signal, compare it against the gametape of what actually happened, and produce a magic batman decoder ring that will tell me what play they are running

                adding a video record of hand signals increases your ability to decode them more accurately by a factor of approximately 1,203,347.45%, so yeah id say they are very different
                It's a shame his center couldn't read his hand signal to not snap the ball to him on the first play from scrimmage otherwise it might have been a totally different game.
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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525
                  #9
                  Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                  fake controversy.

                  meathead's comment is pretty much the answer. case closed.
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                  • Mike13
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10546
                    #10
                    Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                    Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                    It's a shame his center couldn't read his hand signal to not snap the ball to him on the first play from scrimmage otherwise it might have been a totally different game.
                    Yeah, Seattle would have scored two less points.

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                    • MitchMurrayDowntown
                      Skoobasaurus-Rex
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 22284
                      #11
                      Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                      A 35 point win tells me that Seattle came in with the #1 defense & the Broncos didn't show up.
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                      • AndreReed83
                        Dink or dunk, Mularkey just plain stunk.
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1621
                        #12
                        Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                        Most offenses change or plan offensive wrinkles during the practice week. Which means no video evidence should exist of these wrinkles. It should then be up to the defensive staff to identify these changes when the two teams play and react to it.

                        Belichick was video tapping these practices when offenses were being installed and no previous evidence should have existed. Definitely not in in the spirit of the game.

                        The Seahawks saw that Peyton Manning used hand signals to call routes for his receivers by watching past game footage. They had to take the time to cipher through game footage, determine what each hand signal was, and then react to it properly. The Broncos did not adjust to this the ENTIRE game.


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                        • Meathead
                          Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 21349
                          #13
                          Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                          Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
                          meathead's comment is pretty much the answer. case closed.
                          this really should be part of the TOS
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                          • Don't Panic
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 4227
                            #14
                            Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                            I don't know... its one thing to read a defense at the line of scrimmage in front of the whole world and make adjustments. Its another to have a secret leg up on the competition. Between this and the PED whispers, I think we may have an asterisks coming....

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                            • Meathead
                              Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 21349
                              #15
                              Re: OK, so basically the Seahawks cheated

                              Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                              It's a shame his center couldn't read his hand signal to not snap the ball to him on the first play from scrimmage otherwise it might have been a totally different game.
                              nah. that sucked for denver but a veteran team and certainly peyton shoulda been able to overcome that. seattle only got a fg out of that drive so really it was a five point mistake with just a few minutes gone. denver had plenty of time to make up for that

                              when you think about it, the denver defense played well enough to win, certainly well into the third quarter. it was mistake after mistake by the broncos offense and special teams that doomed them. and as much as i like peyton as a player, this didnt do anything to help him shake his reputation of being shakey in big games cuz he was awful
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