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  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513

    Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

    Ok... they could conceivably end up with 2nd worst schedule.

    I still think they are faced with a tough choice. They are faced with the prospect of having to trade away two key assets or lose them altogether.

    The Isles could be headed toward a minor rebuild themselves.

    the key for them will be how competitive they think they can be next year.

    This is going to be one very interesting story to watch.

    one last thing... thank you Darcy.
  • chernobylwraiths
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 41838

    #2
    Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

    If they end up with a top 5 pick this year, I say they keep it and defer the 1st to next year. And Vanek should at least bring them another 1st. ( if they are smart, they defer the pick till next year and trade Vanek for a 2015 first.

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    • Ginger Vitis
      Registered User
      • Feb 2009
      • 3451

      #3
      Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

      Originally posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
      If they end up with a top 5 pick this year, I say they keep it and defer the 1st to next year.
      Agreed.. It would be bad PR to have given up a Top 5 pick for a guy who played less than a year for you.. You didn't come close to making the playoffs with him.. And he never had any intention of staying

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      • JATMtheJATM
        Registered User
        • Aug 2012
        • 59254

        #4
        Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

        from everything ive heard, the isles will defer. its all speculation but thats what i read.
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        • don137
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 7720

          #5
          Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

          It's a crap shoot for Islanders. If they get a top three pick this year and the Sabres get Connor McDavid with that pick Isles fans will revolt to the point where it would cost Snow his job. If they give the Sabres the pick this year in hopes of having an extra chance at McDavid next year and they don't get him the fans will revolt.

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          • coastal
            Legendary Zoner
            • Mar 2005
            • 15513

            #6
            Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

            Here's the thing... If they end up top 3 or 4, how do they go into next year thinking they r going to be better than where they r now?

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            • MitchMurrayDowntown
              Skoobasaurus-Rex
              • Oct 2011
              • 22284

              #7
              Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

              Originally posted by coastal View Post
              Here's the thing... If they end up top 3 or 4, how do they go into next year thinking they r going to be better than where they r now?
              I think you have to assume that you could be better than 87% of the league in the standings, that forces the Isles to defer.

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              • Swiper
                Legendary Zoner
                • Sep 2010
                • 33105

                #8
                Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                Originally posted by coastal View Post
                Ok... they could conceivably end up with 2nd worst schedule.

                I still think they are faced with a tough choice. They are faced with the prospect of having to trade away two key assets or lose them altogether.

                The Isles could be headed toward a minor rebuild themselves.

                the key for them will be how competitive they think they can be next year.

                This is going to be one very interesting story to watch.

                one last thing... thank you Darcy.
                Yeah. I heard that Vanek trade was a terrible one.

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                • coastal
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15513

                  #9
                  Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                  Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                  I think you have to assume that you could be better than 87% of the league in the standings, that forces the Isles to defer.
                  yeah but why... they are 2 points away from having the 3rd worst record in the league.

                  we already know Vanek is gone... MacDonald will be gone too.

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                  • Downinfloflo
                    Victimizing The Victimizer
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 16466

                    #10
                    Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                    Originally posted by coastal View Post
                    yeah but why... they are 2 points away from having the 3rd worst record in the league.

                    we already know Vanek is gone... MacDonald will be gone too.
                    Because they can score goals, Even with out Vanek their right in the thick of things.

                    Their is a rumor they could land Fasth from the Ducks...They do not have a goalie, Hard to win with out one of those..They get a simple average goalie that draft pick falls out of the top 5 easily.

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                    • coastal
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 15513

                      #11
                      Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                      Because they can score goals, Even with out Vanek their right in the thick of things.

                      Their is a rumor they could land Fasth from the Ducks...They do not have a goalie, Hard to win with out one of those..They get a simple average goalie that draft pick falls out of the top 5 easily.
                      They're right in the thick of things?

                      Calgary and Florida have two games in hand and are only a point behind.

                      theyre in the thick of challenging for a top 3 pick.

                      thats more than just goalie problems.

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                      • Downinfloflo
                        Victimizing The Victimizer
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 16466

                        #12
                        Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                        Originally posted by coastal View Post
                        They're right in the thick of things?

                        Calgary and Florida have two games in hand and are only a point behind.

                        theyre in the thick of challenging for a top 3 pick.

                        thats more than just goalie problems.
                        Sorry you miss understood that's my fault.

                        What I meant was in goals scored, Their right there with the rest of the NHL and some of it's top teams, They have 162 goals (Penguins have 182) scored they are 10 goals off from 6th in the entire NHL that's pretty dam good.

                        Now Goalie, That's a disaster, Their best goalie has a .909 SA% and their back up has a .891 SA% and their 3rd goalie has a .877 SA%...You will not win with these numbers.

                        Martin could end up on the Ducks as part of a package for Fasth..
                        Last edited by Downinfloflo; 02-07-2014, 01:10 PM.

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                        • JATMtheJATM
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 59254

                          #13
                          Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                          the isles score alot, sure.

                          the isles also made the playoffs in a shortened season.

                          its an anomaly at this point. the isles may have a good offense, but they need more then that to compete. they need a goalie. where are they going to get one? they need defense. its not a simple fix for the isles.
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                          • Downinfloflo
                            Victimizing The Victimizer
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 16466

                            #14
                            Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                            Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                            the isles score alot, sure.

                            the isles also made the playoffs in a shortened season.

                            its an anomaly at this point. the isles may have a good offense, but they need more then that to compete. they need a goalie. where are they going to get one? they need defense. its not a simple fix for the isles.
                            Read post #12...LOL

                            And no, They don't need more then that to get out of the top five in the draft next year.

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                            • Downinfloflo
                              Victimizing The Victimizer
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 16466

                              #15
                              Re: Isles Pick Dilemma Thread

                              Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                              the isles score alot, sure.

                              the isles also made the playoffs in a shortened season.

                              its an anomaly at this point. the isles may have a good offense, but they need more then that to compete. they need a goalie. where are they going to get one? they need defense. its not a simple fix for the isles.


                              They have 3 rookies starting at that position, And 4 of their D-Men are 24 years old or younger.And they can get a Goalie in the FA market or via trade, There are a lot of good back ups out there.


                              1) Matt Donovan(D): 23 year old Rookie (4th round 2008)

                              2) Thomas Hickey(D): 24 year old Rookie (Drafted 4th overall 2007)

                              3) Calvin DeHaan(D): 22 year old Rookie (Drafted 12th overall 2009)

                              4) Travis Hamonic(D): 23 year old (2nd round 2008)


                              When you have a 38 year old goalie, and and 3 Rookies still learning the NHL game, playing in front of him, Keeping the puck out of the net is going to be a problem.

                              Now next year they may bring up Griffin Reinhart, 20 year old Defense Men (Drafted 4th over all 2012)

                              Now having all these young guy's on defense could hurt the Islanders, Just goes to show how long it takes for young talent to develope.


                              Now for Goalie..


                              #1) Evgeni Nabakov is 38 years old and on his last leg.

                              #2) Kevin Poulin (5th round 2008) is a 23 year old Rookie with 49 games under his belt and a record of W: 18 L: 25 and a .900 SV% and a 3.08 GAA.

                              #3) Anders Nilsson (3rd round 2009) is a 23 year old Rookie with 10 games under his belt.

                              #4) Stephon Williams (4th round 2013) In the System--NCAA.

                              #5) Emon McAdam ( 3rd round 2013) In the System--NCAA.


                              The draft could make you a hero or a zero rather quickly.Something you Sabres fans should really pay attention too.
                              Last edited by Downinfloflo; 02-07-2014, 04:18 PM.

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