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  • DetDannyWilliams
    Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
    • Feb 2013
    • 4186

    Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    There have been impressive, comprehensive studies done in regards to goaltenders and their careers. They’ve come to a similar conclusion: Age 34 is when goalies begin to fall off dramatically.
    How old will Miller be when the puck drops next season? He’ll be 34.
    Two studies, in particular, clearly define the rapid decline:
    Pension Plan Puppets, a site affiliated with SB Nation and dedicated to the Toronto Maple Leafs, studied the save percentage of 200 goaltenders who have played 60-plus games since 1984. It shows how a goalie who put up a .912 save percentage at age 30 (Miller was .916) drops to .905 at age 34, .899 at age 35 and .892 by age 37.
    Copper and Blue, another SB Nation site serving the Edmonton Oilers’ community, focused on whether goalies are starters, backups or out of the league as they age. Age 34 is when the majority become backups. At age 35, there are more retired goalies than backups or starters.
    Does it make sense for a rebuilding team to offer multiple years and big dollars to someone who might not have much left?
    There are, of course, goalies who seem ageless. Martin Brodeur, Dominik Hasek and Patrick Roy put up stellar seasons in their mid-30s.
    But is Miller in their class? Or does he belong with stellar netminders such as Eddie Belfour, Tom Barrasso, Mike Richter, Miikka Kiprusoff, Olaf Kolzig and Grant Fuhr? I’d go with the latter. While they could stop breakaways in their prime, they couldn’t beat the odds that face aging goaltenders.

  • YardRat
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    • Dec 2004
    • 86273

    #2
    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    He was ready to move on when he married the model from the left coast. Should have moved him then.
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    • SpikedLemonade
      • Jun 2024

      #3
      Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

      Take the 2nd round pick and run.

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      • Downinfloflo
        Victimizing The Victimizer
        • Aug 2012
        • 16666

        #4
        Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

        What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

        The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

        And he averages around 14 goals a season.

        I don't get it??

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        • DetDannyWilliams
          Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
          • Feb 2013
          • 4186

          #5
          Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

          Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
          What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

          The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

          And he averages around 14 goals a season.

          I don't get it??
          Ott could be a good rental for some playoff team! look at Regehr last season, Sabres traded him to the Kings for their second round pick(s) in this years draft and next years. Also Murray knows almost every GM in the NHL.
          Last edited by DetDannyWilliams; 02-09-2014, 06:33 PM.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101299

            #6
            Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

            Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
            What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

            The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

            And he averages around 14 goals a season.

            I don't get it??
            Well we got a first for Paul Gaustad. I like Goose but that was too high a price.

            Is Ott worth it? No, but that doesn't mean some desperate team won't be duped into paying it.
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            • Downinfloflo
              Victimizing The Victimizer
              • Aug 2012
              • 16666

              #7
              Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

              Originally posted by DetDannyWilliams View Post
              Ott could be a good rental for some playoff team! look at Regehr last season, Sabres traded him to the Kings for their second round pick(s) in this years draft and next years. Also Murray knows almost every GM in the NHL.
              Regehr is a tough defense men, They have more value then a winger who's main job is to be a loud mouth..LOL

              And all GM's know each other, Only 30 of them.

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              • Downinfloflo
                Victimizing The Victimizer
                • Aug 2012
                • 16666

                #8
                Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                Well we got a first for Paul Gaustad. I like Goose but that was too high a price.

                Is Ott worth it? No, but that doesn't mean some desperate team won't be duped into paying it.
                You ain't kidding.

                Rangers could clean house with Callahan and Girardi.

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                • Meathead
                  Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 21349

                  #9
                  Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                  ott is a pretty good instigator though and that could be valuable to a team that needs some of that in an otherwise solid lineup

                  didnt realize the stats on over 34 goalies were so stark. miller appears to have prepared himself to be one of the exceptions but you never know. i still hope they find a way to keep him but im leaning a little more toward a trade after reading that

                  btw, this article is supposted to be contrasted against another one making the case for him to stay so the next person not as lazy as me should link to it
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                  • Meathead
                    Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 21349

                    #10
                    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                    dang there it is lol
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                    • JATMtheJATM
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 59434

                      #11
                      Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                      What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

                      The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

                      And he averages around 14 goals a season.

                      I don't get it??
                      paul gaustad. and kyle quincey.

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                      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                      You ain't kidding.

                      Rangers could clean house with Callahan and Girardi.
                      theres no doubt. the rangers could get some sexy pieces in return for those players.
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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101299

                        #12
                        Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                        Originally posted by Meathead View Post
                        ott is a pretty good instigator though and that could be valuable to a team that needs some of that in an otherwise solid lineup

                        didnt realize the stats on over 34 goalies were so stark. miller appears to have prepared himself to be one of the exceptions but you never know. i still hope they find a way to keep him but im leaning a little more toward a trade after reading that

                        btw, this article is supposted to be contrasted against another one making the case for him to stay so the next person not as lazy as me should link to it
                        One other thing about Miller's age: Lindy worked him hard for at least 4 years due to a lack of confidence in his back ups, and one of those was his previous Olympic season. I can't imagine being pushed that hard for so much time is going to help his longevity.
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                        • Downinfloflo
                          Victimizing The Victimizer
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 16666

                          #13
                          Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                          I am hearing that it is not likely that Ryan Miller will be traded by the Deadline and Sabres are turning attention towards re signing him.



                          The school of thought on Miller @BuffaloSabres is that a deal in the Lundqvist range now would allow team to trade him in a better market.



                          The goalie market is thin. @StLouisBlues r the only serious possibility for Miller trade and everyone knows it driving value down.





                          Murray not getting the offers he was hoping for?

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                          • JATMtheJATM
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 59434

                            #14
                            Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                            espn said today the sabres are focusing their attention to trading him.
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                            • Downinfloflo
                              Victimizing The Victimizer
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 16666

                              #15
                              Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                              Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                              espn said today the sabres are focusing their attention to trading him.
                              You listen to ESPN when it comes to hockey?

                              Lawton was the managing director at Octagon, a sports agency, from 1998-2007. He co-founded the agency with Mike Liut - who is now the current managing director of the agency and happens to be Miller's representative.
                              Last edited by Downinfloflo; 02-25-2014, 12:04 AM.

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