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JATMtheJATM
03-04-2014, 12:51 PM
bryzgalov to wild
penner to caps
weaver to montreal

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victor fasth to oilers

JATMtheJATM
03-04-2014, 12:54 PM
robidas to anaheim

Downinfloflo
03-04-2014, 03:04 PM
The New York Islanders have dealt defenceman Andrew MacDonald (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=andrew+macdonald) to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for a second round pick in 2015 and a third round draft pick in 2014.

JATMtheJATM
03-04-2014, 03:43 PM
luongo to florida!

Downinfloflo
03-04-2014, 04:47 PM
Way to go Florida...

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:35 AM
gaborik to kings.

swiper
03-05-2014, 09:37 AM
gaborik to kings.

Good pick-up!

The King
03-05-2014, 09:39 AM
gaborik to kings.
Source? TSN isn't reporting anything yet

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:46 AM
Source? TSN isn't reporting anything yet
it was reported as a done deal. now its not done YET. almost done.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:48 AM
callahan to TBL for st louis. not done yet either. being reported as almost done.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:56 AM
new york would send a 1st rounder and a second rounder with callahan for st louis. yikes!

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 10:00 AM
sabres pick up conacher. per twitter. announced at noon, so take it with a grain of salt.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 10:08 AM
callahan, 1st and a second for st louis. st louis is really good, but also old. those picks are steep along with callahan.

mightysimi
03-05-2014, 10:27 AM
callahan, 1st and a second for st louis. st louis is really good, but also old. those picks are steep along with callahan.

Probably because they don't expect Callahan to resign.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 10:30 AM
Probably because they don't expect Callahan to resign.

word is the may flip callahan for more picks.

also, the second rounder becomes a 1st rounder if the rags make the ECF.

chernobylwraiths
03-05-2014, 10:31 AM
a player ( and a very good player too) a first and a second (which becomes another first if the Rangers make the Conference finals) for a 38 year old baby?

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Rangers got fleeced

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 10:54 AM
potter claimed by the bruins.

chernobylwraiths
03-05-2014, 11:00 AM
potter claimed by the bruins.

Now they have magic on their side!

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:12 AM
hemsky to ottawa

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:14 AM
brayden mcnabb to LA.

:(

The King
03-05-2014, 11:14 AM
Now they have magic on their side!


Yay 30 year old defenseman guy!

chernobylwraiths
03-05-2014, 11:16 AM
got him for nothing though

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:20 AM
apparently, myers is generating a ton of buzz. guys, the sabres could be on the verge of a blockbuster.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 11:22 AM
McNabb to Kings!

Bob McKenzie‏<S>@</S>TSNBobMcKenzie<SMALL class=time>2 mins (http://www.billszone.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/441265992144924674)</SMALL> Hearing prospect Hudson Fasching (U of Minnesota) is likely on way to BUF as part of Brayden McNabb trade with BUF. Awaiting confirmation.

Not quite official just yet.

coastal
03-05-2014, 11:23 AM
apparently, myers is generating a ton of buzz. guys, the sabres could be on the verge of a blockbuster.we shall see

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:23 AM
sabres got a big body but with less potential..

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/hudson-fasching/

sukie
03-05-2014, 11:24 AM
Is Stafford still a Sabre?

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:26 AM
Is Stafford still a Sabre?

yes. and hes actually been playing EXTREMELY well the past few weeks.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 11:32 AM
Still unofficial but more details emerging...

Bob McKenzie‏<S>@</S>TSNBobMcKenzie<SMALL class=time>2 mins (http://www.billszone.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/441268179617062912)</SMALL> Pending trade call, sounds like BUF sends Brayden McNabb and two 2nd round picks to LA for two prospects - one of them Hudson Fasching.

don137
03-05-2014, 11:32 AM
TSN said Brayden McNabb traded to LA Kings

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 11:35 AM
Fasching played at the recent WJC... Some draft experts were saying a month ago how he was a "steal" in the 4th round last year and is looking better than his draft position.. I hope the 2 2nd rounders were the 2014 2nd rounders..

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:35 AM
deslauriers is the other prospect.

hearing vanek to kings

dubnyk to montreal

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 11:41 AM
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nicolas_deslauriers/

apparently, he has blazing speed and skill. slow development. he should be up with the sabres ASAP

sukie
03-05-2014, 11:55 AM
yes. and hes actually been playing EXTREMELY well the past few weeks.

It's a mirage.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 12:01 PM
It's a mirage.

hes always been consistently streaky. im glad hes becoming productive again.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 12:06 PM
gabby to kings DONE

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 12:08 PM
Carrier and now Fasching Murray must not have been impressed with the winger depth in the system.. Fasching played well in last years WJC 4 points in 5 games. A full year before Faschings draft year his was considered a 1st round pick but his stock fell . As I mentioned before his stellar play in college and at the WJC has draft experts saying he was a steal in the 4th Round.. And reading this story how can you not pull for this kid and hope he succeeds

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/72339?referrer_id=32770

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 12:32 PM
goc to penguins.

The Jokeman
03-05-2014, 12:39 PM
Carrier and now Fasching Murray must not have been impressed with the winger depth in the system.. Fasching played well in last years WJC 4 points in 5 games. A full year before Faschings draft year his was considered a 1st round pick but his stock fell . As I mentioned before his stellar play in college and at the WJC has draft experts saying he was a steal in the 4th Round.. And reading this story how can you not pull for this kid and hope he succeeds

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/72339?referrer_id=32770
Let's just hope Randy Cunneyworth can develop these guys otherwise not sure this trade does much to improve us in the next two seasons which is what we all want.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 12:43 PM
t. ruutu to NJD

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 12:57 PM
halak, 3rd rounder to washington for neuvirth and klesla

nothing official yet

gebobs
03-05-2014, 12:58 PM
Sabres deal McNabb, Jonathan Parker, picks to Kings for Nicolas Deslauriers and Hudson Fasching.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445334

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:03 PM
Here we go!!

Bob McKenzie‏<S>@</S>TSNBobMcKenzie<SMALL class=time>25 secs (http://www.billszone.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/441291453453463552)</SMALL> Matt Moulson to MIN is a possibility.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:05 PM
NM its a fake!

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:07 PM
NM its a fake!Reported as fake Pierre Lebrun account

Paul Hamilton‏<S>@</S>pham1717<SMALL class=time>4 mins (http://www.billszone.com/pham1717/status/441291804214714368)</SMALL> LeBrun tweet about Vanek is a fake account

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:07 PM
Tim thomas to dallas?

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 01:08 PM
The picks in the St Louis trade don't mean anything.

the 2014 draft is a waste...Marty is one of the NHL top 5 goal scorers.

Ryan Callahan is a 45 point a year guy who wanted to get paid like a top goal scorer.

EDIT.....its a 2015, 1st,2014 2nd.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:09 PM
Reported as fake Pierre Lebrun account

people are dumb.

david pagnotta retweeted it. so he fell for it too.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:16 PM
Dave Davis‏<S>@</S>DaveDavisHockey<SMALL class=time>2 mins (http://www.billszone.com/DaveDavisHockey/status/441294582366482432)</SMALL> Looks like something on Moulson will be announced shortly.


Jeremy White‏<S>@</S>JeremyWGR<SMALL class=time>1 min (http://www.billszone.com/JeremyWGR/status/441295039851806722)</SMALL> Game time. RT <S>@</S>RealKyper (http://www.billszone.com/RealKyper): Moulson talks for <S>#</S>Sabres (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23Sabres&src=hash) remain with <S>#</S>Sharks (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23Sharks&src=hash) <S>#</S>Ducks (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23Ducks&src=hash) and <S>#</S>Wild (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23Wild&src=hash)

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:17 PM
hearing stafford and moulson should get traded. no, im not an insider. just what im reading on twitter.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:23 PM
hearing stafford and moulson should get traded. no, im not an insider. just what im reading on twitter.Confirmed by me.

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people are dumb.

david pagnotta retweeted it. so he fell for it too.I got fooled yesterday

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:23 PM
The picks in the St Louis trade don't mean anything.

the 2014 draft is a waste...Marty is one of the NHL top 5 goal scorers.

Ryan Callahan is a 45 point a year guy who wanted to get paid like a top goal scorer.

EDIT.....its a 2015, 1st,2014 2nd.

they mean something, if you give up 2 firsts in a row. may not mean you lose out on a star, but it depletes your organizational depth, for a 38 year old. but the rags could also put together a run. so they gave to get. long run, its a better move for the ning

ckg927
03-05-2014, 01:25 PM
people are dumb.

david pagnotta retweeted it. so he fell for it too.

Channel 2 fell for the fake tweet, too.

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 01:25 PM
Matthew Kollar(WGR550) who follows the Rochester Americans for WGR said the 3 years McNabb was in Rochester Kollar didn't see very much improvement in his play is below average skater and doesn't think McNabb will be more than a No. 6 guy in he NHL

ckg927
03-05-2014, 01:28 PM
Matthew Kollar(WGR550) who follows the Rochester Americans for WGR said the 3 years McNabb was in Rochester Kollar didn't see very much improvement in his play is below average skater and doesn't think McNabb will be more than a No. 6 guy in he NHL

I think he's spot on in that assessment. And consider, too, that McNabb's been passed over on the defensive depth chart by Ristolainen, Zadorov and Pysyk and you can see why McNabb's now in SoCal.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:29 PM
maszeros to boston.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:36 PM
MOULSON TO WILD

halak to washington deal must have been a fake too.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 01:38 PM
MOULSON TO WILD

halak to washington deal must have been a fake too.

Other, more reputable people thought Halak was going to stay past the deadline. SO FAR, they're right.

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 01:42 PM
they mean something, if you give up 2 firsts in a row. may not mean you lose out on a star, but it depletes your organizational depth, for a 38 year old. but the rags could also put together a run. so they gave to get. long run, its a better move for the ning

Those picks the Rangers gave up, Those players drafted with those picks won't be any where near the NHL for at least 4-5 years down the road..And the 2nd round pick will most likely never be.

The Rangers get a pick back if Cally signs..St Louis is 38, But he's in fantastic shape and he's a point per game player still at 38 years old, He has 29 G with 61 Points in 62 games this year.

Marty St Louis is a 20 goal scorer when he's having a dreadful season..Cally wanted way to much money, And he's only a 45 point a year guy.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:46 PM
if it works, it works. but if it doesnt, its a steep price. very steep

ticatfan
03-05-2014, 01:46 PM
I guess phillips is staying in ottawa, that is what everyone here is talking about, my hawks did a couple minor movemnets.

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 01:49 PM
if it works, it works. but if it doenst, its a steep price.

I would trade a late 1st rounder and a late 2nd round pick for St Louis any day of the week.That's basically what happened.

Ryan was GONE no matter what, So he was a throw in.And the contract he wanted was just silly for a guy with his point totals.

I'm just glad they did not do the Chris Stewart for Callahan deal.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:51 PM
kesler NOT traded

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:51 PM
Paul Hamilton‏<S>@</S>pham1717<SMALL class=time>36 secs (http://www.billszone.com/pham1717/status/441303645410177024)</SMALL> I asked upstairs if the team was done and told, "I don't think so" We'll see

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 01:52 PM
Mark Spector ‏@SportsnetSpec 35s
NYR gets Raphael Diaz for a 5th in 2015 from Canucks.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:52 PM
I would trade a late 1st rounder and a late 2nd round pick for St Louis any day of the week.That's basically what happened.

Ryan was GONE no matter what, So he was a throw in.And the contract he wanted was just silly for a guy with his point totals.

I'm just glad they did not do the Chris Stewart for Callahan deal.

i dunno. if the rags win a cup, then its a win no matter what.

if they dont, a 38 year old for a first, possibly 2.. thats a bad a trade. obviously, time will tell. its not like the rangers were the class of the league. they are a long shot to make serious noise. so it could be a dramatic overpay.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:53 PM
there is a sabres trade coming. expecting to hear its moulson to wild. but not official.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:54 PM
Elliotte Friedman‏<S>@</S>FriedgeHNIC<SMALL class=time>34s (http://www.billszone.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/441304472816340993)</SMALL> Moulson and McCormick to MIN

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:54 PM
moulson and mccormick to wild.

Skooby
03-05-2014, 01:55 PM
What did we get from the Wild ??

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:56 PM
torey mitchell and picks coming back.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 01:56 PM
Prolly 2 and 3 + player

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:58 PM
vanek traded as well

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 01:59 PM
vanek for etem and a 1st

moulson for a second + possibly

Skooby
03-05-2014, 01:59 PM
vanek traded as well

The Isles are going to be drafting 4th-5th.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:00 PM
conditional 1st for Moulson

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:02 PM
legwand to detroit

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The Isles are going to be drafting 4th-5th.

you mean if they keep their pick and toll it over to next year to buffalo?

Skooby
03-05-2014, 02:02 PM
conditional 1st for Moulson

If he resigns with the team or they make the conference finals again ??

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:03 PM
halak traded as well, it sounds. just rumor. another deal was done. maybe even myers

AND VANEK TO HABS, NOT DUCKS! possibly!

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 02:03 PM
Vanek reportedly went to Montreal

Skooby
03-05-2014, 02:04 PM
you mean if they keep their pick and toll it over to next year to buffalo?

They're going to keep their pick because all they have to do is do better than almost last this year, which is a likelier proposition.

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Isles only got a prospect and a 2nd rounder for Vanek

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Vanek a 2 and a prospect

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:07 PM
Vanek reportedly went to Montreal

for a prospect and a second rounder, im reading.

also, a montreal prospect is in critical condition with meningitis.

swiper
03-05-2014, 02:08 PM
Vanek to Montreal for a 2nd. Details pending per TSN.

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Buffalo gets Torrey Mitchell for Moulson and McCormick

SkateZilla
03-05-2014, 02:10 PM
Moulson and McCormick to Minn for F Torrey Mitchell and TBA

gebobs
03-05-2014, 02:15 PM
Super Bowl! Here we come!

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:15 PM
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/248608851.html

According to the Buffalo News’ John Vogl, the Wild traded two draft picks (my guess is at least Winnipeg's second-round pick acquired in the Devin Setoguchi trade) and fourth-line winger Torrey Mitchell to the Sabres for power winger Matt Moulson, a three-time 30-goal scorer, and hard-nosed forward Cody McCormick.Winnepeg #2 would be a nice pick.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:15 PM
so... the isles are taking a monumental step backwards here.

Dude
03-05-2014, 02:17 PM
Just so we're clear, the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick to Minnesota?

The King
03-05-2014, 02:18 PM
So how do Sabres fans feel now? You cleared out almost everyone for a slew of picks, was it enough to give up all that talent?

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:19 PM
Just so we're clear, the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick to Minnesota?Yup

Dude
03-05-2014, 02:19 PM
YupOK. The 15 posts about it left me confused.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:20 PM
halak traded as well, per vogl.

im happy. id prefer more prospects, but with all these picks, they are bound to hit on some or alot. i like it.

the prospect in the vanek deal is collberg. projects to be a top 6 forward in the NHL.

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Just so we're clear, the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick to Minnesota?

ill confirm this rumor soon.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:21 PM
halak to washington

ckg927
03-05-2014, 02:22 PM
looks like the Halak to the Caps deal IS legit; Bob McKenzie just tweeted it.

No word as yet on what Buffalo is getting.

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 02:23 PM
The Canadians gave the isles Sebastian Collberg.. Hockey Prospectus had Collberg as Montreals No.3 prospect..

SkateZilla
03-05-2014, 02:24 PM
Halak to WSH for TBA (Picks)

ckg927
03-05-2014, 02:26 PM
It's official: We WILL suck until at least the end of next season.

The upside: Connor McDavid may just make the Sabres relevant again.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:26 PM
The Canadians gave the isles Sebastian Collberg.. Hockey Prospectus had Collberg as Montreals No.3 prospect..

how does the new buffalo prospect from LA stack up on that site?

i cant recall his name. hunter f.....

The Jokeman
03-05-2014, 02:26 PM
The Canadians gave the isles Sebastian Collberg.. Hockey Prospectus had Collberg as Montreals No.3 prospect..

From HF:
Collberg is a very skilled forward with excellent skating skills and speed while possessing excellent one-on-one moves. The Swedish sniper doesn't shy away from the dirty areas, knows how to find the soft spots to score goals and has an elite wrist shot which he can release in a hurry with great accuracy and velocity. He must add more strength and size to play along the boards and will need improvement on the defensive side of the puck. The talented winger projects as a top-six forward at the NHL level.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:26 PM
Just so we're clear, the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick to Minnesota?

CONFIRMED!

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:27 PM
Alex Seixeiro‏<S>@</S>alexfan590<SMALL class=time>3 mins (http://www.billszone.com/alexfan590/status/441312124225064960)</SMALL> Looks like Michael Neuvirth and a 6th rounder to BUF for Halak. <S>#</S>TradeTracker (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23TradeTracker&src=hash)
Nice G prospect I believe

The Jokeman
03-05-2014, 02:28 PM
Just so we're clear, the Sabres traded Moulson and McCormick to Minnesota?

The Buffalo Sabres have traded Moulson and Cody McCormick to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for Torrey Mitchell and draft picks.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445355

SkateZilla
03-05-2014, 02:28 PM
Vanek w/ Briere is gonna give the NE Division nightmares if they click.

SeatownBillsFan21
03-05-2014, 02:29 PM
Jeez who do we have left on the roster that's even worth building around

The Jokeman
03-05-2014, 02:31 PM
Nice G prospect I believe

Talent Analysis
Neuvirth is a butterfly goaltender and is technically sound while maintaining his positioning in classic, textbook style. He stays square to shooters and comes out to the top of his crease when appropriate to cut down the angle. His most remarkable on-ice trait is his incredible composure. Neuvirth almost never appears rattled or caught up in a moment of excitement. Whether the puck is in the zone or elsewhere on the ice, Neuvirth is extremely economical with his movement. Has been vulnerable early in games at times and has battled nagging leg injuries but is among the elite young goaltending prospects.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/michael_neuvirth/

ckg927
03-05-2014, 02:31 PM
Nice G prospect I believe

Prospects don't have 4 seasons of NHL experience like Neuvirth does.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 02:33 PM
Jeez who do we have left on the roster that's even worth building around

No one.

So embrace THE TANK for at least another season.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:34 PM
he has a career save percentage of .910 and .914 this season. hes a good, youngish goalie.

i like it.

SkateZilla
03-05-2014, 02:35 PM
They might as well call the 2014 draft the 2014 Buffalo Draft.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 02:36 PM
he has a career save percentage of .910 and .914 this season. hes a good, youngish goalie.

i like it.

So do I. I can go along with a Enroth/Neuvirth tandem until Hackett or Lieuwen are NHL-ready.

WagonCircler
03-05-2014, 02:38 PM
I understand that most of these guys' contracts were expiring

I understand that the rebuild needed to start with the Miller trade.

I even understand that the Sabres need to continue to tank and that, given the circumstances, the Sabres fared as well as could be expected over the past few days.

But DAMN, do I feel like this team is now way worse than it was two weeks ago.

At least they don't need to try to tank. That will take care of itself.

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 02:40 PM
Isles only got a prospect and a 2nd rounder for Vanek

He has a 8.0 grade for those who like that sort of stuff.

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They might as well call the 2014 draft the 2014 Buffalo Draft.

The wrong year for that.

Ginger Vitis
03-05-2014, 02:41 PM
how does the new buffalo prospect from LA stack up on that site?

i cant recall his name. hunter f.....

Hudsen Fashcing.. Prior to the season starting Fasching was ranked 8th on Los Angeles Kings Top 10 prospects Hockey Prospectus

Dude
03-05-2014, 02:41 PM
The Buffalo Sabres have traded Moulson and Cody McCormick to the Minnesota Wild in exchange for Torrey Mitchell and draft picks.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=445355Are you sure?

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:42 PM
Prospects don't have 4 seasons of NHL experience like Neuvirth does.
True

coastal
03-05-2014, 02:45 PM
The bottom has arrived and been embraced.

The reality is lonely.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Are you sure?Yes
Elliotte Friedman‏<S>@</S>FriedgeHNIC<SMALL class=time>55 mins (http://www.billszone.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/441304472816340993)</SMALL>Moulson and McCormick to MIN


Michael Russo‏<S>@</S>Russostrib<SMALL class=time>2 mins (http://www.billszone.com/Russostrib/status/441318440834314240)</SMALL> Trade conference call between <S>#</S>mnwild (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23mnwild&src=hash) and <S>#</S>sabres (http://www.billszone.com/search?q=%23sabres&src=hash) hasn't taken place yet, so this is all pending league approval.

The King
03-05-2014, 02:50 PM
I understand that most of these guys' contracts were expiring

I understand that the rebuild needed to start with the Miller trade.

I even understand that the Sabres need to continue to tank and that, given the circumstances, the Sabres fared as well as could be expected over the past few days.

But DAMN, do I feel like this team is now way worse than it was two weeks ago.

At least they don't need to try to tank. That will take care of itself.

From an outsiders prospective it's going to take 3-4 years to get this team to the playoffs.
And that's if you hit on 70%, if you hit on less than you might be as good as you were last season.

Dude
03-05-2014, 02:54 PM
Yes
I'm going to need some confirmation.

gebobs
03-05-2014, 02:57 PM
I'm going to need some confirmation.

Confirmed.

Dude
03-05-2014, 02:58 PM
Confirmed.Works for me.

coastal
03-05-2014, 02:58 PM
Put us as the top non-expansion team in the McDavid sweepstakes right now.

It's a given.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 02:59 PM
Put us as the top non-expansion team in the McDavid sweepstakes right now.

It's a given.

the sabres are regardless. they dont just give expansion teams 1st overall picks

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 03:03 PM
WGR is a little nervous about the Moulson deal because no league approval yet.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 03:03 PM
It should be noted that in addition to Neuvirth, the Caps also sent D Rostilav Klesla to Buffalo. Decent amount of points, and a LOT of PIMs, throughout his career.

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 03:07 PM
For Moulson...
2014 2nd
2016 2nd
per WGR

Yasgur's Farm
03-05-2014, 03:15 PM
It should be noted that in addition to Neuvirth, the Caps also sent D Rostilav Klesla to Buffalo. Decent amount of points, and a LOT of PIMs, throughout his career.I think I saw that Sabres sent a 3rd as well.

gebobs
03-05-2014, 03:18 PM
the sabres are regardless. they dont just give expansion teams 1st overall picks

Are they entered into the lottery? I see in 2000 that MIN and CBJ picked #3 and #4.

Islanders - DiPietro (brief flash)
Thrashers - Heatley (big crash)
Wild - Gaborik (scores well enough)
Jackets - Klesla (traded to Buff)

coastal
03-05-2014, 03:20 PM
Are they entered into the lottery? I see in 2000 that MIN and CBJ picked #3 and #4.

Islanders - DiPietro (brief flash)
Thrashers - Heatley (big crash)
Wild - Gaborik (scores well enough)
Jackets - Klesla (traded to Buff)i certainly hope they aren't entered in and get 3rd and 4th overall.

were facing 3 consecutive years of top overall pick.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 03:22 PM
For Moulson...
2014 2nd
2016 2nd
per WGR

i like it. that 2016 can be flipped for a player later if the sabres need it as they come out of this rebuild

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Are they entered into the lottery? I see in 2000 that MIN and CBJ picked #3 and #4.

Islanders - DiPietro (brief flash)
Thrashers - Heatley (big crash)
Wild - Gaborik (scores well enough)
Jackets - Klesla (traded to Buff)

they would be, yes.

however, the thrashers did get the number 1 in 99

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 03:24 PM
That's all the Sabres got for Moulson, McCormick and their 3rd round pick?

Murray must have been tired and just said screw it.....LOL

coastal
03-05-2014, 03:30 PM
i like it. that 2016 can be flipped for a player later if the sabres need it as they come out of this rebuild

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they would be, yes.

however, the thrashers did get the number 1 in 99
So the thrashers won the lottery in 99?

will they slot expansion teams into 3rd and 4th spots prior to lottery or into 1st and 2nd spots prior to the lottery?

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 03:34 PM
Who ever the NHL wants to pick 1st overall will....That's how the lotto goes.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 03:43 PM
Who ever the NHL wants to pick 1st overall will....That's how the lotto goes.

And you probably believe the 1985 NBA draft was fixed, too.

gebobs
03-05-2014, 03:44 PM
So the thrashers won the lottery in 99?

will they slot expansion teams into 3rd and 4th spots prior to lottery or into 1st and 2nd spots prior to the lottery?

In '99, the rangers (via Chicago) won the lottery but could only move up the maximum of 4 spots to #4. Atlanta moved up to first (via Tampa) and traded their own pick to Vancouver.

All that jockeying around led to Atlanta getting Patrik Stefan (huge loser), the Rangers getting Pavel Brendl (huger loser), and Vancouver getting the Sedins.

Skooby
03-05-2014, 03:49 PM
And you probably believe the 1985 NBA draft was fixed, too.

Ewing ??

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 03:56 PM
In '99, the rangers (via Chicago) won the lottery but could only move up the maximum of 4 spots to #4. Atlanta moved up to first (via Tampa) and traded their own pick to Vancouver.

All that jockeying around led to Atlanta getting Patrik Stefan (huge loser), the Rangers getting Pavel Brendl (huger loser), and Vancouver getting the Sedins.

See, It goes to show how much of a gamble the draft is.

ckg927
03-05-2014, 03:56 PM
Ewing ??

Yep. But those claims are BS.

Downinfloflo
03-05-2014, 03:56 PM
And you probably believe the 1985 NBA draft was fixed, too.

I don't watch that garbage.

jimmifli
03-05-2014, 04:13 PM
Anybody got a run down of all the picks in 2014-2015? Seems silly.

swiper
03-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Somebody please tell me who the goalie is now in Vancouver while I try to get my head to stop spinning...

Mace
03-05-2014, 05:39 PM
Somebody please tell me who the goalie is now in Vancouver while I try to get my head to stop spinning...

Might be Johnny Manziel. I sort of lost track of things myself.

The Jokeman
03-05-2014, 06:39 PM
I mentioned in another thread but in keeping Chris Stewart don't be shocked if we make a play for Paul Stasny who's an UFA this off season. As we could always shift CoHo or Ennis to wing. That give us Stewart, Stasny and Ennis as our top line and CoHo, Girgensons and Stafford as a 2nd line or maybe we could add another UFA winger. I won't begin to forecast the 3rd and 4th lines as it could be a bunch of young guys or Foligno, Mitchell and who knows what else.

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:29 PM
Somebody please tell me who the goalie is now in Vancouver while I try to get my head to stop spinning...

eddie lack

JATMtheJATM
03-05-2014, 09:31 PM
So the thrashers won the lottery in 99?

will they slot expansion teams into 3rd and 4th spots prior to lottery or into 1st and 2nd spots prior to the lottery?

probably 2-3.

there wasnt a lottery in 99, to my knowledge. i could be wrong about that. but usually, expansion teams dont get the number 1 pick. but they do pick very high.

Meathead
03-05-2014, 09:39 PM
Somebody please tell me who the goalie is now in Vancouver while I try to get my head to stop spinning...

gump worsley

denverboz
03-06-2014, 12:57 AM
I mentioned in another thread but in keeping Chris Stewart don't be shocked if we make a play for Paul Stasny who's an UFA this off season. As we could always shift CoHo or Ennis to wing. That give us Stewart, Stasny and Ennis as our top line and CoHo, Girgensons and Stafford as a 2nd line or maybe we could add another UFA winger. I won't begin to forecast the 3rd and 4th lines as it could be a bunch of young guys or Foligno, Mitchell and who knows what else.
Stastny ain't going anywhere he went to school here (DU) for two years, than went right to the AVS.

He's coming off 5yr. Contract that was for over $30.M. He just came out and said he would give the AVS a hometown discount on next contract! I suspect they're already in talks. And I can't imagine any scenario that would see the AVS just let him walk away. He's pretty integral to the teams style, and a lot of fun to watch.

swiper
03-06-2014, 04:35 AM
gump worsley

He's still playing, eh?

gebobs
03-06-2014, 06:59 AM
probably 2-3.

there wasnt a lottery in 99, to my knowledge. i could be wrong about that. but usually, expansion teams dont get the number 1 pick. but they do pick very high.

There was a lottery in '99. As far as I can tell, expansion teams are added to the lottery with other qualifying teams. The Thrashers didn't win the lottery but were able to move up through trades.

Night Train
03-06-2014, 07:05 AM
gump worsley

One of the first Sabres games ever in Oct. 1970. My brother gets us tickets for Sabres-Minny.

Gump in goal for Minny. Joe Daley in goal for the Sabres.

Neither golaie wore a mask. Insane.

Meathead
03-06-2014, 07:13 AM
jesus is the center and is a little soft but mohammad plays d and can really bust some heads out there

JATMtheJATM
03-06-2014, 09:12 AM
There was a lottery in '99. As far as I can tell, expansion teams are added to the lottery with other qualifying teams. The Thrashers didn't win the lottery but were able to move up through trades.

ah, thank you! good work.

some people here think the NHL is just going to hand an expansion team mcdavid. not going to happen. they may win the lottery, but the sabres will have a great chance.