'13/'14 Sabres Trade Summary

[Yasgur's Farm]

We can work together here to summarize the Sabres '13/'14 season trades... Please correct or fill-in as needed.

Net season loss...
G Ryan Miller (rental)
F Steve Ott (rental)
F Thomas Vanek (rental)
F Cody McCormick
D Brayden McNabb
F Jonathan Parker
2014 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 3rd


Net season gain...
2014 or 2015 1st (from Islanders)
2015 1st (from Blues)
2014 2nd (from Jets via Wild)
2016 2nd (from Wild)
*2014 3rd (from Blues) Conditional - Could end up a 2014 1st
F Chris Stewart
G Michal Neuvirth
D Rostislav Klesla
D Nicholas Deslauriers
F Hudson Fasching
F Torey Mitchell

*Some reports are that this is actually a 2016 3rd... Also, there are reports that if this does turn into a 2014 1st, the Sabres may be sending additional picks to the Blues.

[don137]

I believe it is a 2016 3rd round pick for Miller/Ott. Turns into a 2014 1st if Blues go to conference finals or Miller resigns before free agency. If he resign with Blues after free agency starts it turns into a 2016 2nd rounder.

[SpikedLemonade]

Isn't Chris Stewart also a UFA and thus a rental?

[don137]

Didn't Sabres also get a 2015 2nd rounder from Islanders from Vanek trade? I thought a saw they got that as well.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Isn't Chris Stewart also a UFA and thus a rental?I believe he has a year left... http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2013/7/19/4504460/chris-stewart-contract-extension-st-louis-blues

[Yasgur's Farm]

Didn't Sabres also get a 2015 2nd rounder from Islanders from Vanek trade? I thought a saw they got that as well.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/sports/hockey/nhl-trade-deadline-roundup.html Correct... I can't edit OP... But I'll figure something out.

[Yasgur's Farm]

I believe it is a 2016 3rd round pick for Miller/Ott. Turns into a 2014 1st if Blues go to conference finals or Miller resigns before free agency. If he resign with Blues after free agency starts it turns into a 2016 2nd rounder.
I thought so too... but I found an article that says 2014 3rd... I'll research it further. I didn't know about the multiple conditions... Are you sure on that? I also forgot prospect William Carrier was part of the deal.

I'll quote and edit the OP in an hour or so (just to keep things more concise).

[SkateZilla]

So the rest of the old "core" is finally gone,

who are they building around, Hodgson and Foligno? lol.

-Stewart needs a kick in the pants. Maybe Nolan can bring him back, but I doubt it, once a player starts floating it's usually a permanent condition.
I know alot of STL Fans feel he's been lethargic all season.

-D Rostislav Klesla, Prolly Rochester Bound.
-D Nicholas Deslauriers, Same here, Rachacha bound/
-F Hudson Fasching, No Idea, need more time to see him play.
-F Torey Mitchell, havent really seen enough, lets just say his highlight reel during his discussion on TV was VERY Short.
-G Neuvirth, is pretty good stats wise, I've seen him make great saves, and I've seen WTF Moments, but in retrospect, miller was good for 1 or 2 WTF Moments a game, so it's nothing new. Perhaps with a better Goalie Coach and starting minutes he might turn into a monster between the pipes.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Edits to OP...

Net season loss...
G Ryan Miller (rental)
F Steve Ott (rental)
F Thomas Vanek (rental)
F Cody McCormick
D Brayden McNabb
F Jonathan Parker
2014 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 3rd


Net season gain...
2014 or 2015 1st (from Islanders)
2015 1st (from Blues)
2014 2nd (from Jets via Wild)
2015 2nd (from Islanders)
2016 2nd (from Wild)
*2016 3rd (from Blues) Conditional
F Chris Stewart
G Michal Neuvirth
D Rostislav Klesla
D Nicholas Deslauriers
F Hudson Fasching
F Torey Mitchell
F William Carrier

*Some reports are that this is actually a 2014 3rd...

Conditional... Turns into a 2014 1st if Blues go to conference finals or Miller re-signs before free agency. If he re-signs with Blues after free agency starts it turns into a 2016 2nd rounder.

Also, there are reports that if this does turn into a 2014 1st, the Sabres may be sending additional picks to the Blues.

[don137]

I thought so too... but I found an article that says 2014 3rd... I'll research it further. I didn't know about the multiple conditions... Are you sure on that? I also forgot prospect William Carrier was part of the deal.

I'll quote and edit the OP in an hour or so (just to keep things more concise).


Was listening to WGR interviewing Murray yesterday and I thought that is what Murray stated about if Miller resigns in free agency with St Louis Sabres get a second round and not a third in 2016

[GreedoII]

Not much of a loss looking at it. A bunch of stiffs are gone



We can work together here to summarize the Sabres '13/'14 season trades... Please correct or fill-in as needed.

Net season loss...
G Ryan Miller (rental)
F Steve Ott (rental)
F Thomas Vanek (rental)
F Cody McCormick
D Brayden McNabb
F Jonathan Parker
2014 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 2nd (from Kings for Regehr)
2015 3rd


Net season gain...
2014 or 2015 1st (from Islanders)
2015 1st (from Blues)
2014 2nd (from Jets via Wild)
2016 2nd (from Wild)
*2014 3rd (from Blues) Conditional - Could end up a 2014 1st
F Chris Stewart
G Michal Neuvirth
D Rostislav Klesla
D Nicholas Deslauriers
F Hudson Fasching
F Torey Mitchell

*Some reports are that this is actually a 2016 3rd... Also, there are reports that if this does turn into a 2014 1st, the Sabres may be sending additional picks to the Blues.

[coastal]

The building blocks are Girgensons, Zad, Risto and Pysyck.

3 out of 4 aren't even on the big team yet. They may be next year, but in all honesty I would let them stew for another year. Let them play together... let them earn a Calder Cup together.

[Crisis]

here are the conditions for the stl picks

A.
The Buffalo Sabres will assign their rights to the Minnesota Wild 2014 second (2nd) round draft pick and the Buffalo Sabres own 2014 third (3rd) round draft pick in exchange for the St. Louis Blues own 2014 first (1st) round draft pick and St. Louis Blues own 2016 third (3rd) round draft pick if any of the following conditions are satisfied:

The St. Louis Blues qualify for the 2014 NHL Western Conference Finals and Ryan Miller appears in at least fifty percent (50%) of the game minutes accumulated by all St. Louis Blues goaltenders during the first and second round
The Blues resign Ryan Miller to an extension prior to the Blues selection in the 1st Round
The Blues trade Ryan Miller to another NHL team prior to the Blues pick in the 1st Round


B.
If NONE of the conditions in Paragraph A are met, then the Blues will assign their own 2016 (2nd) to the Sabres if any of the following conditions are met:

The Blues sign Ryan Miller to an extension after their own 1st Round selection in the 2014 draft
The Blues trade Ryan Miller to another NHL team after their own 1st and prior to July 1, 2014
The Blues sign Ryan Miller to a new NHL contract for the 2014-2015 season


C.
If NONE of the conditions in paragraph A AND B are met, then the St. Louis Blues will assign their own 2016 third (3rd) to the Buffalo Sabres

In addition, the BuffaloSabres will retain 20% of Ryan Miller's averaged amount and related salary and bonus obligations

[swiper]

The building blocks are Girgensons, Zad, Risto and Pysyck.

3 out of 4 aren't even on the big team yet. They may be next year, but in all honesty I would let them stew for another year. Let them play together... let them earn a Calder Cup together.

With 3 defensemen leading the way?

The last time Rochester won the Calder Cup was 1995-1996.

This is the best Rochester roster in recent memory: LINK (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000032006.html). That was a packed AHL roster. And it took the Sabres to?

[coastal]

With 3 defensemen leading the way?

The last time Rochester won the Calder Cup was 1995-1996.

This is the best Rochester roster in recent memory: LINK (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000032006.html). That was a packed AHL roster. And it took the Sabres to?
Go gargle toilet water.

[Downinfloflo]

With 3 defensemen leading the way?

The last time Rochester won the Calder Cup was 1995-1996.

This is the best Rochester roster in recent memory: LINK (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000032006.html). That was a packed AHL roster. And it took the Sabres to?

Dreamers only...If you want to talk reality go do it somewhere else. :cry:

[SkateZilla]

Now consider Klesla is bailin on the the sabres for the season then running off to Europe Next Season.