Chandler re-signs with the Bills, 2 Yr 5.45 mill

[X-Era]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/444225102348300288

2 year deal

Free-agent TE Scott Chandler is re-signing a two-year deal with the Buffalo Bills.

I'd rather go in a different direction but fine.

[feldspar]

Oh no, still not good enough. It's day 3, for Christ's sake.

The same people that would complain if this DIDN'T happen are the same people that will complain that it DID.

Of course, I'm referring to the *****es that are out there patrolling in force.

[SpikedLemonade]

There you go!!!!

[mikemac2001]

Lol someone was complaining we lost him and carrington

[YardRat]

I'm OK with Chandler coming back...would still like to add a FA or draft pick.

[sudzy]

I OK with bringing him back as long as the Bills Don't view him as the answer at TE.

[Novacane]

I was just reading the thread *****ing that we lost him lol. Now people can instead ***** he sucks and signing him was status quo loser Bills!

[Bert102176]

I like Signing him back, plus am hopeful Maoeki can stay healthy, but I still would like a better TE

[X-Era]

That contract still leaves enough to sign Spikes or Strief in my mind.

[Novacane]

That contract still leaves enough to sign Spikes or Strief in my mind.


Has there even been any news on Spikes visiting any teams?

[X-Era]

Has there even been any news on Spikes visiting any teams?
Not that I can find

[feldspar]

Has there even been any news on Spikes visiting any teams?

I've been surfing for it, but I haven't seen anything. Unusual.

Signing him would make a lot of sense. He's got ties to Pepper Johnson, and remember that Takeo Spikes is his cousin. Just listened to Takeo on the John Murphy Show a couple of days ago. Had great things to say about his experience in Buffalo.

But the major thing is that Brandon Spikes is a run-stopping specialist linebacker, and that's what the Bills could use. Not sure he should play every down, but he'd fill a big need for this team.

[YardRat]

Has there even been any news on Spikes visiting any teams?

I've seen absolutely zilch except for rumors and speculation on fan sites, and none of that pertains to any actual visits or inquiries.

[HAMMER]

Good deal, Chandler is better than most credit him for.

[Buffalo Thriller]

He's a red zone TE. We need a vertical threat that can block.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Fine signing at an appropriate price

[The King]

It avoids creating a hole and a downgrade at least.

[DetDannyWilliams]

AWESOME NEWS NOW I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THE BILLS ANOTHER $100 FOR ANOTHER NEW BILLS JERSEY

[Mahdi]

Oh no, still not good enough. It's day 3, for Christ's sake.

The same people that would complain if this DIDN'T happen are the same people that will complain that it DID.

Of course, I'm referring to the *****es that are out there patrolling in force.

Are you a fan of a different Buffalo Bills team that wins?

The one I know is in a 14 year playoff drought.

While other teams like the Hawks, 49ers, Broncos have been big time playoff contenders while being very active and successful in FA.

We draft PB Players and lose them.

[Mahdi]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/444225102348300288

2 year deal

Free-agent TE Scott Chandler is re-signing a two-year deal with the Buffalo Bills.

I'd rather go in a different direction but fine.

Good signing. I was hoping for an upgrade to Chandler as well though. Maybe Pettigrew? Good blocker.

[GvilleBills]

I has zero problems wit dis.

[pmoon6]

Are you a fan of a different Buffalo Bills team that wins?

The one I know is in a 14 year playoff drought.

While other teams like the Hawks, 49ers, Broncos have been big time playoff contenders while being very active and successful in FA.

We draft PB Players and lose them.H's a fan of the team. Probably like me, win, lose or draw

It's better than the *****es that are only fans when they win. The rest of the time they cry like little girls.

I think they have a name for that. Bandwagon.

[GvilleBills]

Good signing. I was hoping for an upgrade to Chandler as well though. Maybe Pettigrew? Good blocker.
Chandler/Pettigrew > Chandler/Smith

I'd be pleasantly surprised with anything out of Moeaki, and looking forward to some growth from Gragg.

[justasportsfan]

I'm okay with this. He had his most productive year even when no one had any chemistry with Ej and the other qbs. Everyone had drop problems and IMO is due to lack of chemistry/timing with the qbs.

[Mahdi]

H's a fan of the team. Probably like me, win, lose or draw

It's better than the *****es that are only fans when they win. The rest of the time they cry like little girls.

I think they have a name for that. Bandwagon.

I really think at this point any feeling anyone might have towards this team is justified. Not just losing but how they lose and how they've been managed for a decade and a half.

[feldspar]

Are you a fan of a different Buffalo Bills team that wins?

The one I know is in a 14 year playoff drought.

While other teams like the Hawks, 49ers, Broncos have been big time playoff contenders while being very active and successful in FA.

We draft PB Players and lose them.

I'm glad you brought up the 49ers. They've lost TWO Pro-Bowl safties in back-to-back years. They gave up Dashon Goldson last year to free agency after the guy made All-pro, which is better than the Pro Bowl (which he also made again). This year, they let Donte Whitner walk...if you want to talk about Pro Bowl players, he is one. Whitner made the Pro Bowl the past two years. That's the big stick up everyone's ass, right? That Byrd walked? Well look at what the 49ers did there. Also, they are active now, but the 49ers actually TRADED for Jonathon Martin and Blaine Gabbert within the past couple of days. Tell me how they are making out in free agency here. The best thing they did was to re-sign Boldin IMO.

Explain the difference between the players the Seahawks have signed and compare that to who they let go.

I'll give you the Broncos, though. It's obvious they are making a playoff push while Peyton Manning is still there, and QB is the key. They have the offense, and now they are doing a hell of a job building the defense this year with DeMarcus Ware, Aqib Talib, and T.J. Ward being signed already. They also got guys like Peyton Manning and Wes Welker before. This is the exception to the rule right there, though. These things probably wouldn't be happening without a Hall of Fame QB reaching the end of his career there.

And that's the big thing the Bills need...a quarterback. We have that, and everyone looks a lot better. Amazing that a lot of people don't see that simple fact.

[Night Train]

I OK with bringing him back as long as the Bills Don't view him as the answer at TE. I see him as a #2 and hope they give someone else a chance to start.

If only Moeaki could stay healthy...can Gragg step up ?

If not, draft another one. Don't settle.

[The Jokeman]

I really think at this point any feeling anyone might have towards this team is justified. Not just losing but how they lose and how they've been managed for a decade and a half.

The Jets are rumored to be close to landing Pettigrew.

[DraftBoy]

Meh, not sure him leaving really created a hole that wasn't easily fillable by a street FA. Money is bad though so not much to complain about.

[ServoBillieves]

Yes. Yes yes yes. I'm happy to see him back and a tall/catching TE is great to have on the roster.

[better days]

I like Signing him back, plus am hopeful Maoeki can stay healthy, but I still would like a better TE

I would as well, but not with the #9 pick.

[Buffalogic]

Every time I read his name I think of his terrible fumble during the ATL game in Toronto. I can't stop it. That was a true bills way to lose with the back to back Chandler/Johnson fumbles. Unreal, but we got a top 10 pick out of it.

[SpikedLemonade]

I think this experienced coaching staff can coach Chandler up to be faster, more athletic and have better hands.

[The Jokeman]

I think this experienced coaching staff can coach Chandler up to be faster, more athletic and have better hands.

Then we under paid for him with the way you describe him we should have signed him to six million dollars. na na na

[feldspar]

Every time I read his name I think of his terrible fumble during the ATL game in Toronto. I can't stop it. That was a true bills way to lose with the back to back Chandler/Johnson fumbles. Unreal, but we got a top 10 pick out of it.

Yeah, and Stevie did it too...fumbled the game away. We had that game wrapped up in so many different ways that it's amazing we still managed to lose. The way I remember it, the refs made some completely horse**** calls that allowed the Falcons to tie up the game at the end of regulation in the first place too.

Thank God there is no Toronto this year at least.

[jdaltroy5]

H's a fan of the team. Probably like me, win, lose or draw

It's better than the *****es that are only fans when they win. The rest of the time they cry like little girls.

I think they have a name for that. Bandwagon.We're on page two of a low traffic sports message forum discussing a mid level signing of an average player by a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

I'm pretty sure the bandwagon fans are long gone.

[Thief]

Then we under paid for him with the way you describe him we should have signed him to six million dollars. na na naActually sounds like we underpaid the coaching staff.... since they can work miracles and all.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

We're on page two of a low traffic sports message forum discussing a mid level signing of an average player by a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

I'm pretty sure the bandwagon fans are long gone.

Yeah I laughed at that one pretty hard. I would love to meet the babdwagon fan that says "No playoffs for 14 years? Four consecutive 6-10 seasons? Last in their division yet again? WHERE DO I ORDER MY JERSEY?"

[Meathead]

good lord i dread the day that a white man leads the bills in receptions and yardage

ѕhit

[Meathead]

hes gotten better every year over the past three. hes not a game breaker but hes a reliable target when hes not trying to make a heartbreaking football follies lowlight reel. he woulda been missed so this certainly counts as a legit fa signing. for that money this was a good move

[jdaltroy5]

Yeah I laughed at that one pretty hard. I would love to meet the babdwagon fan that says "No playoffs for 14 years? Four consecutive 6-10 seasons? Last in their division yet again? WHERE DO I ORDER MY JERSEY?"
You've already met him.

Sometimes he puts an asterisk next to other teams' names.

[psubills62]

I've never been a big fan of Chandler's. Always seems incredibly replaceable. It's not a ton of money, though, so hopefully they'll find someone who can help relegate him to 2nd string.

[JoeMama]

We're on page two of a low traffic sports message forum discussing a mid level signing of an average player by a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

I'm pretty sure the bandwagon fans are long gone.

If we do have bandwagon fans, they're not doing it right.

Usually the process goes 1) team kicks ass 2) fans hitch star to team's wagon 3) say they were there the whole time.

Jumping on the Bills bandwagon anytime in the last 14 years is like going on a new music blog and saying, "Hey, there's this hot new band that's going to change the face of music. They're called Flock of Seagulls. Watch out."

It completely misses the mark.

[JoeMama]

Yeah I laughed at that one pretty hard. I would love to meet the babdwagon fan that says "No playoffs for 14 years? Four consecutive 6-10 seasons? Last in their division yet again? WHERE DO I ORDER MY JERSEY?"

Same here.

The second I saw the term "bandwagon fans" thrown around in this thread, I started laughing.

The Bills are about as anti-bandwagon as you can get. Any BFZ regulars who still participate on a dated medium like an internet forum in 2014 are clearly way beyond the point where their attachment to this team can be questioned.

In fact, we've been awful for so long, I'm not even sure most of us will know how to process winning. No doubt there will be a brief period of stunned disbelief. But it will immediately be followed by the most long awaited outpouring of joy an NFL fanbase has ever experienced.

[stuckincincy]

I'm glad they re-inked Chandler. They've no business sniffing around FA or higher draft pick TEs. Until they shore up their iffy line, I'd suggest perfecting passing to running backs.

[jimmifli]

He's never caught a pass from a good QB. He could be really good if we ever get QB figured out.

If not, he's still good value. Now lets actually upgrade the position and bring in another TE.

[BertSquirtgum]

I don't mind the Bills signing him for the 2.7 a year but he really stunk last year. He dropped easy passes and caught the horribly thrown passes. I hope he gets that worked out this off season. I think he is a hard worker and can be a good 2nd tight end.

[Dr. Lecter]

I don't mind the Bills signing him for the 2.7 a year but he really stunk last year. He dropped easy passes and caught the horribly thrown passes. I hope he gets that worked out this off season. I think he is a hard worker and can be a good 2nd tight end.

Actually he did not really stink last year. He had career highs across the board.

[pmoon6]

We're on page two of a low traffic sports message forum discussing a mid level signing of an average player by a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

I'm pretty sure the bandwagon fans are long gone.If it was just discussion, that would be fine. Instead you have a myriad of threads *****ing about our less than aggressive approach to FA. When it's pointed out that signing a bunch of high priced free agents almost never equates to winning a Super Bowl, it falls on deaf ears.

By bandwagon, I mean guys that constantly criticize, no matter what the Bills' do, will turn around when we start winning and say "I knew it all along and I have been a fan for X amount of years".

[swiper]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/444225102348300288

2 year deal

Free-agent TE Scott Chandler is re-signing a two-year deal with the Buffalo Bills.

I'd rather go in a different direction but fine.

He had a bad 2013. He's not a bad TE if he turns that around. What the Bills need is a 2nd TE to use other than Lee Smith.

[swiper]

Actually he did not really stink last year. He had career highs across the board.

He had some untimely drops last season, which was unusual for him.

[X-Era]

He had a bad 2013. He's not a bad TE if he turns that around. What the Bills need is a 2nd TE to use other than Lee Smith.Hopefully re-signing him doesn't preclude us from drafting a TE. But it may with the stable we have right now.

[swiper]

Outside of Chandler, the stable of TEs is replaceable. Although I hold out hope for Tony Moeiki.

[X-Era]

Outside of Chandler, the stable of TEs is replaceable. Although I hold out hope for Tony Moeiki.
As do I. And I hope you're right.

[gebobs]

Oh no, still not good enough. It's day 3, for Christ's sake.

The same people that would complain if this DIDN'T happen are the same people that will complain that it DID.

Of course, I'm referring to the *****es that are out there patrolling in force.
Put me squarely in the camp of don't care. Chandler is average at best.

[swiper]

Put me squarely in the camp of don't care. Chandler is average at best.

I promise you that if Tom Brady was throwing to him, Chandler's name would be put into a similar light with Gronk.

Ok. Maybe a bit overstated, but the point is Chandler is only as good as who is throwing to him. Which, during his tenure in Buffalo, has been pure garbage.

[gebobs]

the point is Chandler is only as good as who is throwing to him. Which, during his tenure in Buffalo, has been pure garbage.
Certainly the case, but I still say his upside is average at best. He had a fine year in 2013 despite a critical fumble that lost a game and seemingly a case of the yips at times. But I've never seen anything from Chandler that I would care if he was let go.

[GvilleBills]

Pettigrew going back to Detroit, 4yrs 16mil.

TE pipedream over. :D

[JoeMama]

He had a bad 2013. He's not a bad TE if he turns that around. What the Bills need is a 2nd TE to use other than Lee Smith.

Chandler has been decent. If it weren't for the disastrous ATL game, I'd say he had an above average season in 2013.

I'd like more of a vertical guy, but Jimmy Grahams don't exactly grow on trees.

Plus, when you're signing guys in FA, you've got to have some vision to project what they could become, not look backward at what they've already done. Chandler still has room to improve. His pass catching outside the redzone has improved.

Jay Riemersma was our last good TE and his best seasons were similar to Chandler's last two seasons.

[feldspar]

Chandler was the Bills leading receiver last year, both in receptions and yardage.

Just sayin'.

This is probably not such a good thing, really.

[jdaltroy5]

If it was just discussion, that would be fine. Instead you have a myriad of threads *****ing about our less than aggressive approach to FA. When it's pointed out that signing a bunch of high priced free agents almost never equates to winning a Super Bowl, it falls on deaf ears.People aren't just *****ing about our less than aggressive approach to free agency. I don't think anyone would have a problem with it if we would've re-signed Byrd. People are *****ing about it because we have a ton of cap space that we're not even using. Again.

My preferred method to building a team would be through the draft. That ONLY works if we re-sign the guys that actually turn out to be good players. We've seen good players walk away in successive years now while we've been sitting with double digit cap space. That shouldn't be acceptable.


By bandwagon, I mean guys that constantly criticize, no matter what the Bills' do, will turn around when we start winning and say "I knew it all along and I have been a fan for X amount of years".Is this team beyond criticism? They've made some pretty lousy decisions for a long time. The fans have a right to be vocal about it.

[justasportsfan]

This could mean we're not drafting Ebron with our 1st pick. It could be down to WR, LB or OL.

[GreedoII]

Ugh..why can;t they just trim the dang fat already with these loser players?!!? Moorman too...get rid of these losers...

[pmoon6]

People aren't just *****ing about our less than aggressive approach to free agency. I don't think anyone would have a problem with it if we would've re-signed Byrd. People are *****ing about it because we have a ton of cap space that we're not even using. Again.

My preferred method to building a team would be through the draft. That ONLY works if we re-sign the guys that actually turn out to be good players. We've seen good players walk away in successive years now while we've been sitting with double digit cap space. That shouldn't be acceptable.

Is this team beyond criticism? They've made some pretty lousy decisions for a long time. The fans have a right to be vocal about it....or they can root for the Argonauts.

[trapezeus]

i hope he got escalators put in the contract if he fumbles away 3 games this season!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

People aren't just *****ing about our less than aggressive approach to free agency. I don't think anyone would have a problem with it if we would've re-signed Byrd. People are *****ing about it because we have a ton of cap space that we're not even using. Again.

My preferred method to building a team would be through the draft. That ONLY works if we re-sign the guys that actually turn out to be good players. We've seen good players walk away in successive years now while we've been sitting with double digit cap space. That shouldn't be acceptable.

Yeah. Every year we hear these platitudes about building the right way, through the draft, retain our own, etc. Then we let our best draft in over a decade get dismantled by free agency in consecutive years. I mean, that draft was five years ago and we have one player left. What exactly are you hoping for out of a draft pick? That they develop into someone among the best at their position, right? Well that happened, and we still let him walk. And ironically, moon is criticizing the people who thought the Bills got it right and wanted to keep him. Byrd was nitpicked to hell and back, and somehow the people defending him are the ones *****ing? They had to use first ballot hall of famers like Reed and Polamalu to find a player that he fell short against FFS.

Further, considering that the justification given for not signing Byrd is that we'd 'use his money to upgrade several positions', I think it's perfectly valid to point out that they haven't yet upgraded any positions. Graham and Rivers are find depth, but they are depth. Our starters still don't stack up. I hope Whaley has something planned.

[better days]

This could mean we're not drafting Ebron with our 1st pick. It could be down to WR, LB or OL.

The Bills were never drafting Ebron with the first pick................unless they trade down.

[justasportsfan]

The Bills were never drafting Ebron with the first pick................unless they trade down.

Maybe they trade down and grab Evans now that Chandler is back. I still want the bills to fix their redzone problems . We would need to fix EJ first and then give him more weapons.

[better days]

Maybe they trade down and grab Evans now that Chandler is back. I still want the bills to fix their redzone problems . We would need to fix EJ first and then give him more weapons.

Yeah, EJ needs to stay healthy & develop.

Spiller said the Offense was going to get together with EJ & practice in the offseason.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Also Chandler said he thinks the Bills did not get a chance to show everything last year because of the injuries to EJ.

He is looking forward to the upcoming season & so am I.

[BertSquirtgum]

Actually he did not really stink last year. He had career highs across the board.

Actually, he stunk. He dropped important catches at crucial points in games. If you aren't good when it counts, you stink.

[YardRat]

Yeah. Every year we hear these platitudes about building the right way, through the draft, retain our own, etc. Then we let our best draft in over a decade get dismantled by free agency in consecutive years. I mean, that draft was five years ago and we have one player left. What exactly are you hoping for out of a draft pick? That they develop into someone among the best at their position, right? Well that happened, and we still let him walk. And ironically, moon is criticizing the people who thought the Bills got it right and wanted to keep him. Byrd was nitpicked to hell and back, and somehow the people defending him are the ones *****ing? They had to use first ballot hall of famers like Reed and Polamalu to find a player that he fell short against FFS.

I think Pittsburgh just lost their last remaining player from that draft today. It's OK to let someone walk when they aren't worth the value they are looking for. Good is one thing...elite, or best in the entire league, is another.


Further, considering that the justification given for not signing Byrd is that we'd 'use his money to upgrade several positions'

My justification was he's too slow, not a good fit for the cover1, and not elite. Regardless of what the Bills do in free agency that will still stand.


I think it's perfectly valid to point out that they haven't yet upgraded any positions.

No, it isn't...it's completely invalid until they play the games. You weren't one of the posters that tagged the Hughes trade as 'our garbage for their garbage', were you?


Graham and Rivers are find depth, but they are depth. Our starters still don't stack up. I hope Whaley has something planned.

Depth is OK. If they are better than the guys they replaced, that is an upgrade. For years people *****ed about lack of depth, now they are *****ing about (hopefully) upgrading that depth. Starters aren't the only positions that should be considered when evaluating upgrading an entire 53 man squad.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I think Pittsburgh just lost their last remaining player from that draft today. It's OK to let someone walk when they aren't worth the value they are looking for. Good is one thing...elite, or best in the entire league, is another.

Pittsburgh lets players walk because they have too much talent to pay them all. We let talent walk because we don't want to pay for it and then sit on the money. Yes, when you are trying to retain the core of a team that went to three Super Bowls in 6 seasons and won two, sacrifices will have to be made.


My justification was he's too slow, not a good fit for the cover1, and not elite. Regardless of what the Bills do in free agency that will still stand.

And then you repeatedly posted your FA hopes, which included several guys you hoped to be starters.


No, it isn't...it's completely invalid until they play the games. You weren't one of the posters that tagged the Hughes trade as 'our garbage for their garbage', were you?

Graham has played seven seasons, Rivers has played five, and they've both been let go twice. If they had the potential to be great, they would likely have shown it by now. That's not to say there's anything wrong with the signings, they are depth and the world needs ditch diggers sometimes. But I'm not going to assume they come in and immediately improve so much as to upgrade a starting position.

As for Hughes, it's a public forum and my history is there if you're curious. Here's a post on Hughes:
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/220253-People-are-deluding-themselves-about-Jerry-Hughes?p=3835341&viewfull=1#post3835341


Depth is OK. If they are better than the guys they replaced, that is an upgrade. For years people *****ed about lack of depth, now they are *****ing about (hopefully) upgrading that depth. Starters aren't the only positions that should be considered when evaluating upgrading an entire 53 man squad.

But our starters are still sub-par and we've done little to change that. Despite the complaining about injuries, we were actually one of the healthier teams last year (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311758/article/report-ny-giants-led-nfl-with-91-starter-games-lost-to-injury)

[better days]

Actually, he stunk. He dropped important catches at crucial points in games. If you aren't good when it counts, you stink.

Chandler set Bills records last year, but the play that sticks out & everyone remembers is the fumble against the Falcons because that cost the game.

[gebobs]

Chandler set Bills records last year, but the play that sticks out & everyone remembers is the fumble against the Falcons because that cost the game.

What records?

[better days]

What records?

I did not word that properly.

I should have said he had career high numbers last year.

53 receptions 655 yds

[gebobs]

I did not word that properly.

I should have said he had career high numbers last year.

53 receptions 655 yds

Good for him. He's still average at best.

[Tatonka]

We're on page two of a low traffic sports message forum discussing a mid level signing of an average player by a team that hasn't had a winning season in a decade.

I'm pretty sure the bandwagon fans are long gone.
Awesome post

[better days]

Good for him. He's still average at best.

He is still a good red zone target, the Bills just have to make better use of his skill set this year than they did last year.

[X-Era]

Maybe they trade down and grab Evans now that Chandler is back. I still want the bills to fix their redzone problems . We would need to fix EJ first and then give him more weapons.
The Lions are after Evans so trading down for him may not be a possibility.