Jim Kelly not having surgery

[The King]

There's been a lot that has been said so we thought it would be best to clarify.
At this point and time surgery is not the best option for Jim.
Because of complexity and aggressive nature of this cancer and after more scans and tests, the plan has changed.
At this point, Jim will not be having surgery. The cancer is in areas that surgery cannot successfully eradicate. Therefore, the medical specialists here in NYC along with our Buffalo team believe that chemotherapy and radiation are the best option.
If you've dealt with cancer you know that you never really know for sure what each moment will hold.
But..Praise God. We are held in the Strong Mighty hands of an Unchanging God.
Thank you for your continued prayer support.
I will share updates as we move forward - ready for this battle waged against us.
If God is for us.who can be against us! - Jill Kelly

[swiper]

What kind of cancer is it?

[Downinfloflo]

What kind of cancer is it?

It's in his Mouth and Jaw.

[Dr. Lecter]

This is terrible. Probably the worst news possible.

I fear that the near future for Bills fans is going to get a lot worse

[swiper]

It's in his Mouth and Jaw.

Right. Bone cancer? Marrow cancer? Soft tissue? Just curious. They sounded like it would be done and over for him after the first surgery.

And does anyone know where he is in NYC? MSK?

[SpikedLemonade]

This is terrible. Probably the worst news possible.

I fear that the near future for Bills fans is going to get a lot worse

I agree. I can't see how this news can have a positive side.

[Ed]

Right. Bone cancer? Marrow cancer? Soft tissue? Just curious. They sounded like it would be done and over for him after the first surgery.

And does anyone know where he is in NYC? MSK?
Well in his first surgery I believe he had part of his jaw and some teeth removed, so I would assume it's in his bones?

[swiper]

Well in his first surgery I believe he had part of his jaw and some teeth removed, so I would assume it's in his bones?

I haven't followed the story so closely, but what I've read they were always vague about it. Could be a lot of things.

[Crisis]

Isn't surgery only ruled out of the cancer has already spread? Not good news..

[swiper]

Isn't surgery only ruled out of the cancer has already spread? Not good news..

Surgery is done, typically, as a curative measure or as a debulking procedure prior to CTx or RTx. In any case, getting RTx to the head or neck is tough news. While they are much better at focusing treatment to the cancer itself these days, the radiation still affects local structures. And the head and neck are full of important stuff! I know a guy who had prostate radiation about 10 or 11 years ago and now has excruciating radiation proctitis and penile pain every day. So much so that he wishes he would have never treated the cancer with radiation.

[feldspar]

My father was diagnosed with stage-4 lung cancer a month ago. When the cancer has spread to the point where it cannot be contained or isolated and so surgery is not an option, this is bad...very, very bad. When chemotherapy and radiation are the best option, the outlook is generally bleak, no matter what the specific type of cancer, really. Chemotherapy can prolong your life a bit, but it can ruin the quality of your life in the meantime...it can do some good as well. I have no idea of the particulars of Jim Kelly's prognosis. My father is electing to not even put himself through chemo...that can be hell, or even kill you itself, as happened to my uncle. Just radiation for pain management every weekday. Funny thing is that my father got his medical marijuana license, or whatever it is. Never would have imagined such a thing.

Anyway, life's a ***** and death don't have no mercy. I hope Jim Kelly's situation isn't as bad as it sounds, but it probably is. I don't know.

[swiper]

The great hope for cancer treatment is on the horizon: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/monoclonal-antibody/ART-20047808

[Bill Cody]

If the cancer has metastasized through his body that is a death sentence. If he's receptive to chemo that can beat the cancer back some and give him more time, maybe years. The side effects of chemo vary person to person but it ain't fun. And at some point it usually just stops working. I just lost my brother to cancer last summer, it sucks. Depending on the specific kind of cancer he has sometimes you can get into trials of experimental drugs, lots of good things happening in cancer research. But this news sounds very grim to me, sad.

[better days]

I have had stage 4 throat cancer.

I was told surgery was not an option from the begining.

I was treated with Chemo & Radiation.

Chemo makes you sick as a dog..................terrible short term.

Radiation has long lasting effects, destroyed my thyroid gland, taste buds, saliva glands...............terrible long term

[trapezeus]

one real problem is that if the cancer is spreading, it is located in his head. and if it's spreading, it may be in his brain. and that would only give a short window of time.

really tough times.

as for better days and feldspar, i'm sorry about your personal battles with cancer and the battle for your dad. Very sad stuff.

[feldspar]

I have had stage 4 throat cancer.

I was told surgery was not an option from the begining.

I was treated with Chemo & Radiation.

Chemo makes you sick as a dog..................terrible short term.

Radiation has long lasting effects, destroyed my thyroid gland, taste buds, saliva glands...............terrible long term

Sorry about that, dude. Hearing about this **** makes me wish there was something I could do, believe me.

[better days]

Sorry about that, dude. Hearing about this **** makes me wish there was something I could do, believe me.

That is how I feel about Jim.

He has much more to live for & offer the World than I do.

If I could take his Cancer & put it on myself to make Jim Cancer free, I would do that in a heartbeat.

[Meathead]

like ive said, everybody ive ever know that had cancer and it got into their spine was screwed

theyve been telling us they need a miracle. well its that time

[kgun12]

I said this when he was first diagnosed, this is as bad as pancreatic cancer. It doesn't end well. I had a very brief relationship with Jim, and in the grand scheme of things it isn't even worth mentioning, but this is like watching a brother go through this. For the people that new me when I was on site all the time, celebrities and Hollywood types disgust me, but this hurts!

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Damn

[Mike13]

This really really sucks.

[better days]

like ive said, everybody ive ever know that had cancer and it got into their spine was screwed

theyve been telling us they need a miracle. well its that time

The Cancer Jim has is in the Sinus cavity, deep in his head.

That is the reason surgery is not a good option.

It is not in his spine.

[Meathead]

really? it was reportedly in his spine now but if thats not the case its at least a little less alarming

[swiper]

really? it was reportedly in his spine now but if thats not the case its at least a little less alarming

I hadn't read that. You have a link?

[sukie]

Surgery is done, typically, as a curative measure or as a debulking procedure prior to CTx or RTx. In any case, getting RTx to the head or neck is tough news. While they are much better at focusing treatment to the cancer itself these days, the radiation still affects local structures. And the head and neck are full of important stuff! I know a guy who had prostate radiation about 10 or 11 years ago and now has excruciating radiation proctitis and penile pain every day. So much so that he wishes he would have never treated the cancer with radiation.

Yeah 10-11 years ago for XRT is akin to watching VHS tapes or having dual floppy drives. The treaments and localization techniques during radiation treatments are amazing compared to back then. Patients are basically cat scanned on a daily basis on the treatment machine and daily adjustments are then made. This allows greater total doses delivered with far fewer side effects like the proctitis you spoke of. We see very little of that in follow up. As far as head and neck treatments... Yes there are plenty of normal structures that need to be avoided. With the lastest RAPID ARC type therapies, morbidity is greatly reduced so it isn't nearly as bad as even 5 years ago. I am positive if he is at MSK or even Roswell ... these new modalities are available. If not... Strong MEM in Rochester.

[swiper]

Do they use seeds routinely in places other than the prostate?

[sukie]

Do they use seeds routinely in places other than the prostate?

Not really. Most brachy therapy today is done with HDR afterloading systems that have a Ir 192 source going through catheters placed in the patient... Bile duct, bronchial tumors, even prostates are now treated that way. It is even done in places like tongue but for a maxillary lesion this won't work especially with local recurrances post op. Chemo XRT will be the course.