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  • Haile SpikedLemonade
    • Jun 2024

    Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

    It had to be said and Bucky Gleason did in today's Buffalo News....



    "....But let’s not discount what Buffalo gave him.

    He turned a $25,000 investment into an $870 million fortune, which amounted to one whale of a score. Yes, he came up with the initial money. He helped the AFL survive. He was a voice of reason and helped with the merger. He understood the influence of television and the importance of making sacrifices for the greater good.

    But it also was for his greater good. He was able to capitalize more than most franchises when it came to revenue sharing. It meant you kept your team, but it was mostly on his terms when it came to revenues, stadium upgrades and tax breaks. He made a bundle from a community that didn’t have a bundle.

    Even the current lease comes with an escape clause after the seventh year. The deal soothed the fan base, but it also made financial sense for surviving members of his family and all but eliminated Wilson from ever getting blamed if the franchise moved out of town. It was good for you, certainly, but it also was good for him...."

    "....The franchise was turning some $30 million in profits in recent years, and in return fans were given teams that missed the playoffs 14 straight seasons. Wilson was known for his love of football, but his record made you wonder whether he loved winning football or the sport in general or the football business...."

    "....Winning became lost in the grand scheme. Its importance was beaten out of a fan base that for years lived under the threat of relocation. Fans came to rationalize that losing was acceptable so long as the Bills remained in Orchard Park. They came to appreciate the Sunday experience and ignore the Sunday goal. The standards were lowered...."


    Well said Bucky and I couldn't agree more.

    I would have waited a couple of weeks after his death, but you have bigger balls than I do.
    Last edited by Guest; 03-27-2014, 09:15 AM.
  • coastal
    Legendary Zoner
    • Mar 2005
    • 15513

    #2
    Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

    Parking lot... nothing is more important.

    Not even your dignity.

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    • SpikedLemonade
      • Jun 2024

      #3
      Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

      Originally posted by coastal View Post
      Parking lot... nothing is more important.

      Not even your dignity.
      "Fans came to rationalize that losing was acceptable so long as the Bills remained in Orchard Park. They came to appreciate the Sunday experience and ignore the Sunday goal."

      So true and almost poetic on Bucky's part.

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      • Bill Cody
        Registered User
        • Sep 2004
        • 11894

        #4
        Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

        Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
        I would have waited a couple of weeks after his death, but you have bigger balls than I do.
        I doubt that.

        I guess massive greed and ego go with the territory when it comes to the super rich. RIP Ralph but I think the fans deserved more.

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        • gebobs
          One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
          • Sep 2003
          • 11520

          #5
          Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

          Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
          "Fans came to rationalize that losing was acceptable so long as the Bills remained in Orchard Park. They came to appreciate the Sunday experience and ignore the Sunday goal."
          You see that around the Zone. It's maddening. But aside from the decade from '88 to '99 (and I'm being generous), the Bills were never really in the hunt after the merger.
          Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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          • Historian
            2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
            • Dec 2002
            • 61723

            #6
            Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

            Originally posted by gebobs View Post
            You see that around the Zone. It's maddening. But aside from the decade from '88 to '99 (and I'm being generous), the Bills were never really in the hunt after the merger.
            I don't know that I necessarily agree with that.

            Just missed going to the first Super Bowl.

            We made the playoffs in 1974.

            We were one of the best teams in the NFL from 1980 to 1982.

            The '82 strike hurt us. (Started out 2-0 and finshed 4-5 and out of shape)

            The USFL hurt us. (Lost our HB, K, C, QB)

            The '76 expansion hurt us. (Lost Rashad and Toomay)

            While Gleason's essay has a lot of truth to it, overall, this has been a fun franchise to watch, IMO.

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            • gebobs
              One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
              • Sep 2003
              • 11520

              #7
              Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

              Originally posted by Historian View Post
              Just missed going to the first Super Bowl.
              I said after the merger. Perhaps the Bills might have made a better show than the Chiefs did in SB1.

              We made the playoffs in 1974.
              And were not really in the hunt. We were a brief distraction for the Steelers on their way to the championship. They had me going there, going up 7-3 in the 1st quarter, but they controlled the rest of the half and the game was over by halftime. Fergie's best playoff game even as it wasn't all that memorable. OJ got stuffed.

              We were one of the best teams in the NFL from 1980 to 1982.
              Close, but still never got to the conference championship. IMHO Ferguson never was a top gun and whatever abilities he had were on the wane by then. He didn't have very good games in either.
              Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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              • Victor7
                Registered User
                • Jul 2013
                • 1270

                #8
                Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                Spot on article. Feels bad to say those things after the man's passing. But its the truth. Plain and simple. Great great man, very bad owner.

                17 post seasons in 54 years ?? 31% ... just awful.

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                • gebobs
                  One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 11520

                  #9
                  Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                  Originally posted by Victor7 View Post
                  Spot on article. Feels bad to say those things after the man's passing. But its the truth. Plain and simple. Great great man, very bad owner.

                  17 post seasons in 54 years ?? 31% ... just awful.
                  And more than half of those 17 were one-and-done.
                  Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                  • SpikedLemonade
                    • Jun 2024

                    #10
                    Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                    "....The franchise was turning some $30 million in profits in recent years, and in return fans were given teams that missed the playoffs 14 straight seasons. Wilson was known for his love of football, but his record made you wonder whether he loved winning football or the sport in general or the football business...."

                    Didn't that part just slap you in the face even if you are a homer?

                    I can understand trying to win and not succeeding, but to make $30M per year while not spending all the money the NFL gives you as your share of TV revenue on player salaries and then beating the crap out of local tax payers for lease concessions is disgusting.

                    That part I can't respect.

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                    • coastal
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 15513

                      #11
                      Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                      Ralph was no hero... not a great man.

                      he wasn't a bum either.

                      he got way lucky when a $25,000 investment turned into a hundreds of millions of dollars franchise.

                      money gives people the power or opportunity to do all kinda of things that most people can't.

                      that happenstance of fate doesn't make one automatically great.

                      he ran the Bills well from a business stand point.

                      thats the nicest thing I can say about him.

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                      • SpikedLemonade
                        • Jun 2024

                        #12
                        Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                        From another newspaper article...

                        "Wilson was admired in Buffalo but never loved. He was a notorious cheapskate who expected other people to pay for his toys."



                        That is a pretty fair assessment.

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                        • Gibby
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 18211

                          #13
                          Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                          He seems like he was a decent chap, but one who should have been a lot more hands off in the daily affairs of the team. In other words, he shouldn't have fired Polian because Polian had a disagreement with his family. Also, he should have done all he could to keep Saban in town. He should have also been far more willing to open up the wallet to pay for top flight coaches and GMs.

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                          • Victor7
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1270

                            #14
                            Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                            Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                            And more than half of those 17 were one-and-done.
                            You know what's more telling ? ... 8 of those 17 seasons were during the golden 90's. You know when Ralph stroke gold with Polian, Jimbo, Bruce, Marv and the gang. Eliminate those 8 seasons and we have 9 play off appearances in 46 seasons. That's 17%. Pathetic falls short in description.

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                            • SpikedLemonade
                              • Jun 2024

                              #15
                              Re: Ralph the man was greater than Ralph the owner

                              Originally posted by Victor7 View Post
                              You know what's more telling ? ... 8 of those 17 seasons were during the golden 90's. You know when Ralph stroke gold with Polian, Jimbo, Bruce, Marv and the gang. Eliminate those 8 seasons and we have 9 play off appearances in 46 seasons. That's 17%. Pathetic falls short in description.
                              Making money was Ralph's primary goal. That is how he measured success.

                              If the Bills happened to win on the field in addition to making him as much money as his owner peers in bigger cities, that was just gravy. If he did not make as much money as his peers, that was the City of Buffalo's fault in his mind and he resented it as illustrated by holding relocation over the fans heads in the 80's whenever he could.

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