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ZAZusmc03
04-03-2014, 01:50 PM
http://m.buffalobills.com/s/30841/260?itemPos=1&itemUri=2105827027%2F1014105131268391261513146103614

X-Era
04-03-2014, 01:50 PM
BB.com

X-Era
04-03-2014, 01:51 PM
So much for that. Looks like we have the new owner in place.

Ed
04-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Mary Wilson is cheap!

ZAZusmc03
04-03-2014, 01:52 PM
I'd imagine it's only until the sale of the team can be made.

sukie
04-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Yup one that can call Century 21's business division and put up a for sale sign

Dr. Lecter
04-03-2014, 01:54 PM
This means I can marry her and when she passes I get the team with no estate taxes.

X-Era
04-03-2014, 01:57 PM
This means I can marry her and when she passes I get the team with no estate taxes.Weren't you already betrothed?

BertSquirtgum
04-03-2014, 01:58 PM
So much for that. Looks like we have the new owner in place.

Not for long....

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) Seems Mary Wilson, wife of the late Ralph Wilson, becomes controlling owner of the Bills. The trustees will commence working toward a sale.

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) <small class="time"> 17m (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451796331556651008) </small> Potential candidates to buy the Bills will be vetted in the coming months, with a sale perhaps being consummated in about a year.





https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451795808346587136

X-Era
04-03-2014, 01:58 PM
I'd imagine it's only until the sale of the team can be made.
It will be interesting to see the potential ramifications. Having it in a trust may mean it has to be sold to the highest bidder... This may mean Mary can sell it to whomever she wants.

Dr. Lecter
04-03-2014, 02:00 PM
Weren't you already betrothed?

Not that I know of.

stuckincincy
04-03-2014, 02:01 PM
This means I can marry her and when she passes I get the team with no estate taxes.

Toy Boy.

X-Era
04-03-2014, 02:02 PM
Not that I know of.
Since birth right? Grandpa Lecter wanted a continuation of the ownership in Buffalo and to marry the house of Lecter with the house of Wilson. Now that you can join your houses you can begin to take over the world.

X-Era
04-03-2014, 02:03 PM
Not for long....

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) Seems Mary Wilson, wife of the late Ralph Wilson, becomes controlling owner of the Bills. The trustees will commence working toward a sale.

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) <small class="time"> 17m (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451796331556651008) </small> Potential candidates to buy the Bills will be vetted in the coming months, with a sale perhaps being consummated in about a year.





https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451795808346587136

This is my point. It could be that Mary as sole owner can pick and choose who she sells the team to. It's her to do with as she sees fit.

sukie
04-03-2014, 02:07 PM
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BertSquirtgum
04-03-2014, 02:08 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/mary-wilson-named-controlling-owner-of-bills/#comment-3281076

WagonCircler
04-03-2014, 02:10 PM
This is my point. It could be that Mary as sole owner can pick and choose who she sells the team to. It's her to do with as she sees fit.

Which is great news, because that means she is not obligated to choose the highest bidder. If Jon Bon Jovi (for example), who would move the team, bids $900 MIL and Jeremy Jacobs (again, for example), who would keep the team here, bids $895 MIL, a trust would have no choice but to choose the $900 MIL. Mary Wilson, on the other hand, could choose the lower bid.

X-Era
04-03-2014, 02:12 PM
Which is great news, because that means she is not obligated to choose the highest bidder. If Jon Bon Jovi (for example), who would move the team, bids $900 MIL and Jeremy Jacobs (again, for example), who would keep the team here, bids $895 MIL, a trust would have no choice but to choose the $900 MIL. Mary Wilson, on the other hand, could choose the lower bid.It would seem that way. That's my guess.

Albany,n.y.
04-03-2014, 02:20 PM
Bill Polian just said the Bills better keep that c*** out of the room on the day of the draft.

Mace
04-03-2014, 02:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Diw3gu104

coastal
04-03-2014, 02:31 PM
This means I can marry her and when she passes I get the team with no estate taxes.dont you have to be hetero to still get married in NY?

YardRat
04-03-2014, 02:56 PM
You might have to crack an egg in that one, Doc.

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 02:58 PM
So the idea is that Mary Wilson who does not want to own the team (according to Ralph) is soooooooo thankful to the residents of Buffalo that she will take less money to sell to a local owner?

OK.

Chicken wings are great.

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04-03-2014, 03:01 PM
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X-Era
04-03-2014, 03:01 PM
So the idea is that Mary Wilson who does not want to own the team (according to Ralph) is soooooooo thankful to the residents of Buffalo that she will take less money to sell to a local owner?

OK.

Chicken wings are great.No. The idea is that the wife of a man who would never move the team until he died will now going against her husbands wishes, all of her close friends on the Bills, from the Bills, and that she has developed relationships with associated to the Bills and take the top dollar so that the team can move.

Makes a ton of sense.

Because Mary Wilson is clearly all about the money and doesn't care about the long list of people she would piss off with that move.

In fact, she was the one by his side when he died... Maybe that money grubbing ***** helped him along.

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 03:06 PM
....all of her close friends on the Bills, from the Bills, and that she has developed relationships with associated to the Bills....

We know this how?

X-Era
04-03-2014, 03:23 PM
We know this how?Are you serious man?

Please prove to me that she plans to scorn all of the glut of people very close to Ralph (but apparently not her) publicly wanting the Bills to stay in Buffalo.

stuckincincy
04-03-2014, 03:38 PM
No. The idea is that the wife of a man who would never move the team until he died will now going against her husbands wishes, all of her close friends on the Bills, from the Bills, and that she has developed relationships with associated to the Bills and take the top dollar so that the team can move.

Makes a ton of sense.

Because Mary Wilson is clearly all about the money and doesn't care about the long list of people she would piss off with that move.

In fact, she was the one by his side when he died... Maybe that money grubbing ***** helped him along.

Your sarcasm may be lost on some.

She's not the sometimes-typical trophy wife that the tax laws force old coots to marry bimbos. I think Ralph correctly smelled the government tax grab potential and acted accordingly, and along the way took steps to keep the team in WNY.

kishoph
04-03-2014, 03:41 PM
Not for long....

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) Seems Mary Wilson, wife of the late Ralph Wilson, becomes controlling owner of the Bills. The trustees will commence working toward a sale.

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) <small class="time"> 17m (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451796331556651008) </small> Potential candidates to buy the Bills will be vetted in the coming months, with a sale perhaps being consummated in about a year.





https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451795808346587136

I think I would rather ask the lady (any lady) behind the cash register at the AM/PM on the corner about football related things before I asked Mike Schopp. Mary Wilson now is the owner, she doesn't have to sell to anybody. She might decide she likes owning the team and hold on to it. Either way I think she is going to honor Ralph and make sure the team remains in Buffalo.

ZAZusmc03
04-03-2014, 03:42 PM
This article should help clear up what this announcement means... It's a formality.
http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/04/03/mean-mary-wilson-control-buffalo-bills/

Generalissimus Gibby
04-03-2014, 03:44 PM
Not for long....

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) Seems Mary Wilson, wife of the late Ralph Wilson, becomes controlling owner of the Bills. The trustees will commence working toward a sale.

Mike Schopp ‏<s>@</s>Schopptalk (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk) <small class="time"> 17m (https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451796331556651008) </small> Potential candidates to buy the Bills will be vetted in the coming months, with a sale perhaps being consummated in about a year.





https://twitter.com/Schopptalk/status/451795808346587136

Consummated eh? Hmmm, is she going to **** over the fans again with the strap on and the whips?

Dr. Lecter
04-03-2014, 04:34 PM
dont you have to be hetero to still get married in NY?

Hey - I am a very honorific person.

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 05:10 PM
Are you serious man?

Please prove to me that she plans to scorn all of the glut of people very close to Ralph (but apparently not her) publicly wanting the Bills to stay in Buffalo.

Why would she be scorning them?

Ralph could have done something to keep them in Buffalo and didn't.

Did he scorn the people close to him?

better days
04-03-2014, 05:15 PM
Why would she be scorning them?

Ralph could have done something to keep them in Buffalo and didn't.

Did he scorn the people close to him?

Ralph did do something to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

Ralph did not have to sign that lease to keep the Bills in Buffalo at least another 6 years.

He did not need to sign a new lease at all. The next owner could have been free to move the Bills the day they bought them if that were the case.

Ralph bought Buffalo time to get an ownership group & Stadium plan in place.

DynaPaul
04-03-2014, 05:16 PM
She isn't going to sell to someone who wants to move the team.

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 05:22 PM
Ralph did do something to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

Ralph did not have to sign that lease to keep the Bills in Buffalo at least another 6 years.

He did not need to sign a new lease at all. The next owner could have been free to move the Bills the day they bought them if that were the case.

Ralph bought Buffalo time to get an ownership group & Stadium plan in place.

The lease was signed in December 2012. The old lease ended before the 2013 season started.

A new lease had to be signed even if Ralph knew he would be dying in March 2014.

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She isn't going to sell to someone who wants to move the team.

No one is going to say or try to move this team until 2020.

YardRat
04-03-2014, 05:22 PM
Why would she be scorning them?

Ralph could have done something to keep them in Buffalo and didn't.

Did he scorn the people close to him?

Other than what he has already done, what did you want him to do to keep the team in Buffalo?

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 05:23 PM
Other than what he has already done, what did you want him to do to keep the team in Buffalo?


Sell it to local owners or have a deal in place to sell to local owners upon his death.

stuckincincy
04-03-2014, 05:25 PM
I think I would rather ask the lady (any lady) behind the cash register at the AM/PM on the corner about football related things before I asked Mike Schopp. Mary Wilson now is the owner, she doesn't have to sell to anybody. She might decide she likes owning the team and hold on to it. Either way I think she is going to honor Ralph and make sure the team remains in Buffalo.

Ditto.

The lease is what it is, the Bills in Buffalo cover a sufficient tv market, the fan base is among the most loyal. The ownership is in trust with Mrs. Wilson with the say on selling.

These days, many folks can't seem to grasp that it it is possible for owners of businesses to be (very) satisfied with their lot in life, are pleased with the product their business supplies, pleased to employ people and be happy that their business provides a good livelihood for others.

WagonCircler
04-03-2014, 05:31 PM
Funny to watch the Canadian(s) secretly hoping the team moves to Toronto (while pretending not to) coming unglued.

BUFFALO Bills, *****es.

Deal with it.

SpikedLemonade
04-03-2014, 05:43 PM
The last thing I want is the Bills in Toronto.

I want them to stay right where they are.

better days
04-03-2014, 05:54 PM
The lease was signed in December 2012. The old lease ended before the 2013 season started.

A new lease had to be signed even if Ralph knew he would be dying in March 2014.

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No one is going to say or try to move this team until 2020.

The Chargers have played the last two years in San Diego with NO LEASE!

And will again this year. The Chargers can move any time they want.

A lease is NOT required for an NFL team to play in any City.

vanbillsfan
04-03-2014, 05:58 PM
@ByTimGraham (https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham)
Source: Bills won't ease into sale process, could have new owner as early as October

BertSquirtgum
04-03-2014, 07:35 PM
The team has already been placed in a trust. If Mary wilson was the sole person to the decision of selling the team, why would a board of trustees be bringing in groups wanting to buy the team? I think "controlling owner" is just a title. The team is still controlled by the trustee board.

BertSquirtgum
04-03-2014, 07:37 PM
Post #37 is correct.

http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?485489-Mary-Wilson-new-owner-until-sold&p=7444680#post7444680

YardRat
04-03-2014, 07:57 PM
Sell it to local owners or have a deal in place to sell to local owners upon his death.

And that guarantees the team staying in Buffalo more than the current situation how?

IlluminatusUIUC
04-03-2014, 08:44 PM
The Chargers have played the last two years in San Diego with NO LEASE!

And will again this year. The Chargers can move any time they want.

A lease is NOT required for an NFL team to play in any City.

Of course a lease is required, you think the Chargers just show up and play football there on a handshake deal? The lease is just year to year for now.

better days
04-03-2014, 11:02 PM
Of course a lease is required, you think the Chargers just show up and play football there on a handshake deal? The lease is just year to year for now.

Lease? You call that a lease? LMAO. More like a year to year RENTAL.

The Chargers can move any time they like following the season they play without owing anything.

And Ralph could have done the same thing if he chose to do so when the old lease was up.

Play year to year & wait for the next owner to buy the team & move them where he wanted.

But Ralph did not do that. He signed a lease that will keep the Bills in Buffalo until at least 2020, giving the Buffalo area time to get its ducks in a row to keep the team in WNY.

BertSquirtgum
04-04-2014, 12:53 AM
The team has already been placed in a trust. If Mary wilson was the sole person to the decision of selling the team, why would a board of trustees be bringing in groups wanting to buy the team? I think "controlling owner" is just a title. The team is still controlled by the trustee board.

I am WRONG. No more trustees or trustee board. Mary Wilson has the sole responsibility of who to pick to sell the team to. This is only good news in my eyes. Her husband of thirty years spent his life keeping this team from moving. Fighting other owners to try and keep the team competitive. I doubt she ruins her husbands legacy by selling to the highest bidder who would be more likely to move the team. I think some of the family would probably like to keep the team, they just can't. There is still an inheritance tax and I don't think anyone in the family has the extra 300 million to cover that tax. The family has to sell the team to be able to pay the government the inheritance tax.

http://www.wgr550.com/Mary-Wilson-named-controlling-owner-of-Bills/18735192

http://www.tax.ny.gov/pit/estate/etidx.htm

IlluminatusUIUC
04-04-2014, 09:14 AM
Lease? You call that a lease? LMAO. More like a year to year RENTAL.

Yes, I call that a lease because it's the textbook definition of a lease. A lease does not require a long-term commitment or some sort of penalty.


And Ralph could have done the same thing if he chose to do so when the old lease was up.

Play year to year & wait for the next owner to buy the team & move them where he wanted.

But Ralph did not do that. He signed a lease that will keep the Bills in Buffalo until at least 2020, giving the Buffalo area time to get its ducks in a row to keep the team in WNY.

That year-to-year renewable language has to be in the previous lease to be valid, and it might not have been. And let's not forget, Ralph didn't sign a 10 year deal out of the goodness of his heart, he got a $130 million stadium renovation project paid from taxpayer money in exchange.

Bill Cody
04-04-2014, 10:07 AM
And that guarantees the team staying in Buffalo more than the current situation how?

A local group has ties to the community. That would seem a rather obvious difference from simply selling to the highest bidder

Bill Cody
04-04-2014, 10:26 AM
No. The idea is that the wife of a man who would never move the team until he died will now going against her husbands wishes, all of her close friends on the Bills, from the Bills, and that she has developed relationships with associated to the Bills and take the top dollar so that the team can move.

Makes a ton of sense.

Because Mary Wilson is clearly all about the money and doesn't care about the long list of people she would piss off with that move.

In fact, she was the one by his side when he died... Maybe that money grubbing ***** helped him along.

Ralph wouldn't move the team but he wouldn't sell or arrange to sell the team either. That tells me his FIRST priority was not keeping the team in Buffalo after his death. So why should we expect his wife's first priority would be to do that?

better days
04-04-2014, 05:01 PM
Yes, I call that a lease because it's the textbook definition of a lease. A lease does not require a long-term commitment or some sort of penalty.



That year-to-year renewable language has to be in the previous lease to be valid, and it might not have been. And let's not forget, Ralph didn't sign a 10 year deal out of the goodness of his heart, he got a $130 million stadium renovation project paid from taxpayer money in exchange.

Yes Ralph did sign the 10 year lease out of the GOODNESS of his heart.

The Bills would be worth more to a potential buyer that wanted to move the team if there was NO lease!

Ralph committed the Bills to Buffalo for ten more years out of the GOODNESS IN HIS HEART.

He did not make money by doing that, he most likely lost money.

better days
04-04-2014, 05:07 PM
Ralph wouldn't move the team but he wouldn't sell or arrange to sell the team either. That tells me his FIRST priority was not keeping the team in Buffalo after his death. So why should we expect his wife's first priority would be to do that?

It was not Ralph's responsibility to sell the Bills before his death.

Ralph LOVED the Bills & wanted to own them & keep them in Buffalo as long as he lived.

He made provisions to keep the Bills in Buffalo an additional 10 years as well.

Why do you people not understand Ralph could have died with the Bills having no lease to keep them in Buffalo until 2020?

SpikedLemonade
04-04-2014, 05:51 PM
Yes Ralph did sign the 10 year lease out of the GOODNESS of his heart.

LOL!!

swiper
04-04-2014, 07:19 PM
Yes Ralph did sign the 10 year lease out of the GOODNESS of his heart.

The Bills would be worth more to a potential buyer that wanted to move the team if there was NO lease!

Ralph committed the Bills to Buffalo for ten more years out of the GOODNESS IN HIS HEART.

He did not make money by doing that, he most likely lost money.

Bewildered homer.

BertSquirtgum
04-04-2014, 07:33 PM
Ralph wouldn't move the team but he wouldn't sell or arrange to sell the team either. That tells me his FIRST priority was not keeping the team in Buffalo after his death. So why should we expect his wife's first priority would be to do that?

or his initial investment was 25,000 and the final value was 880 million. So the capital gain tax he would have to pay from selling the team would be monstrous. How do we know the team doesn't already have a buyer lined up and all of this stuff going on now is just formalities. Exactly, we don't. Sooooo, just wait and stop making assumptions.

Mace
04-04-2014, 07:34 PM
I'll just roll though my reasoning and time will sort it out and make me look stupid or wise. Yeah, I'm used to looking stupid, and occasionally come up with something wise which doesn't make me any money.

Maybe someone with some more law can jump in.

If Ralph gives to Mary, even temporary, there is no estate tax. Spouse rule. If Mary dies while owning they get double nailed, capital gains and estate. If Mary sells, capital gains only. This is what no one has ever been sure of that I've talked to. Does Mary get nailed with estate while holding spouse rule card and still alive ? I am not sure she does.

Mary owning, can sell to who she wishes, with NFL approval, irrelevant to court, and the few odd millions.

If Ralph designates to estate, executor takes control, primary executor is assumed and noted to be his chief accountant Littman. Dollars and cents bottom line guy. Required by the court to take highest offer. Doesn't matter to who, the NFL unless wishing to fight in court has to agree, and won't be much bothered to.

The Ralph organization signed off on that lease, including Littman. Littman being chief accountant knew that will and related laws.

The estate is nowhere near settled. Mary was given control not Littman, Littman knew this too. Estate in question, there cannot yet be bids that could be acted on that quickly, unless, via Mary, there was a plan. For bids to be acted on as quickly as Graham asserts, the NFL has to know, even if informally, because the estate is not even clear yet.

A fast sale means a local ownership group and a plan. Mary and not Littman, overseeing it is a good thing.

She can sell to anyone ! Ralph could have too. Littman would have had to via court. Ralph was not an idiot despite some thoughts, he saw all this coming for years. He'd not have had that lease signed, would have had title go to estate and Littman if it was about money. Didn't.

They have a plan. Mary is a really good thing.

BertSquirtgum
04-04-2014, 07:35 PM
LOL!!

Your hate for Scrooge mc ralph is blinding you.

better days
04-04-2014, 07:41 PM
LOL!!


LMAO at the pseudo Bills fans, who in reality want the Bills to move & are clinging to the last hope they have of that happening.

OpIv37
04-04-2014, 07:53 PM
Without reading through this whole thread, I just have one thought on this.

If there is a quick sale, the new owner will have to keep the team in Buffalo through 2020, which means it has to be someone who either won't move the team or someone who is really, really good at hiding their intentions.

The only thing that will ever cause Bills fans to give up on the team is moving them, and if people know the new owner is going to move, the team will basically get no revenue until it happens. NO ONE can afford to lay out the $2 billion or so that it'll cost to buy and relocate the team and build a stadium while seeing no return on that investment for 6 years or so.

I think a quick sale increases the chances that the team stays.

Mace
04-04-2014, 07:55 PM
I think a quick sale increases the chances that the team stays.

Without reading the rest of the post, this.

Mace
04-04-2014, 08:22 PM
LMAO at the pseudo Bills fans, who in reality want the Bills to move & are clinging to the last hope they have of that happening.

Spiked won't even argue with me that he wants to cry like a baby just as desperately as I do the day they bring home a Super Bowl. In fact, there will be such a a party in his house the day they play it. Tissues will be free. I'd like to be there and weep along with him. Keep stocking those fish Spiked, even if they are in the dining room snifter up in the north. Or maybe the party will be at Victor7's in Mexico. Won't be at the King's villa's, he's snooty.

Sure hope we can all weep like babies soon though. Until then, Mary is a very good thing not being Littman.

Bill Cody
04-07-2014, 08:53 AM
It was not Ralph's responsibility to sell the Bills before his death.

Ralph LOVED the Bills & wanted to own them & keep them in Buffalo as long as he lived.

He made provisions to keep the Bills in Buffalo an additional 10 years as well.

Why do you people not understand Ralph could have died with the Bills having no lease to keep them in Buffalo until 2020?

If that's true then it's not Mary's responsibility to sell to anyone other than the highest bidder either.

Ralph probably thought he'd live to see to near the end of the lease. It's not like he signed it on his death bed. And the lease was a good deal for him financially.

better days
04-07-2014, 09:34 AM
If that's true then it's not Mary's responsibility to sell to anyone other than the highest bidder either.

Ralph probably thought he'd live to see to near the end of the lease. It's not like he signed it on his death bed. And the lease was a good deal for him financially.

NO, the lease was NOT a good deal financially for Ralph.

The Bills would be worth much more on the open market with no lease.

And we have no Idea about what Ralph knew about his health when he signed the lease.

He may have thought he was going to live to 100 or the doctors may have told him his time was limited.

It is not Mary's responsibility to sell to anyone other than the highest bidder.

On the other hand, it is very likely she wants to honor her husbands legacy and keep the Bills in Buffalo as Ralph did.

Bill Cody
04-07-2014, 11:57 AM
NO, the lease was NOT a good deal financially for Ralph.

The Bills would be worth much more on the open market with no lease.

Ralph got money while he was alive to sign the lease. That was a bird in hand. Living to the end was a gamble he chose to take.


And we have no Idea about what Ralph knew about his health when he signed the lease.

True so why speculate that he did the city a favor by signing it? It just worked out that way.



it is very likely she wants to honor her husbands legacy and keep the Bills in Buffalo as Ralph did.

Ralph could have secured the Bills future in Buffalo but chose not to. If the Bills move it will be Ralph's legacy. And 6 years is not really a long time to wait for a new owner looking to relocate, especially if there is a need for a new stadium at the new locale. I'm not wishing it to happen but we shouldn't need to be having this discussion. I have little patience for billionaire's tax problems.

better days
04-07-2014, 12:37 PM
Ralph got money while he was alive to sign the lease. That was a bird in hand. Living to the end was a gamble he chose to take.



True so why speculate that he did the city a favor by signing it? It just worked out that way.




Ralph could have secured the Bills future in Buffalo but chose not to. If the Bills move it will be Ralph's legacy. And 6 years is not really a long time to wait for a new owner looking to relocate, especially if there is a need for a new stadium at the new locale. I'm not wishing it to happen but we shouldn't need to be having this discussion. I have little patience for billionaire's tax problems.

The money Ralph got for the lease is PEANUTS compared to the worth of the team.

With the money Ralph had, he did not need that pittance what ever it was.

How much did Ralph get for the lease anyway Cody?

It did not just work out that way. Ralph could have signed a year to year lease, or a lease very easy to break at any time.

Ralph PURPOSELY signed a lease to keep the Bills in Buffalo until at least 2020.

That time will allow an ownership group that wants to keep the Bills in Buffalo time to get its ducks in a row.

The next owner of the Bills will not be looking to relocate the team period.

Bill Cody
04-07-2014, 01:53 PM
The money Ralph got for the lease is PEANUTS compared to the worth of the team.

With the money Ralph had, he did not need that pittance what ever it was.

How much did Ralph get for the lease anyway Cody?

It did not just work out that way. Ralph could have signed a year to year lease, or a lease very easy to break at any time.

Ralph PURPOSELY signed a lease to keep the Bills in Buffalo until at least 2020.

That time will allow an ownership group that wants to keep the Bills in Buffalo time to get its ducks in a row.

The next owner of the Bills will not be looking to relocate the team period.

I hope you're right. But what you're saying is pure speculation, nothing more. 6 years simply is not very long a time period. Ralph could have avoided the angina for Bills fans but chose not to. Case closed.

better days
04-07-2014, 01:58 PM
I hope you're right. But what you're saying is pure speculation, nothing more. 6 years simply is not very long a time period. Ralph could have avoided the angina for Bills fans but chose not to. Case closed.

It is long enough time to put ownership in place that wants to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

Case Closed.

trapezeus
04-07-2014, 02:06 PM
mary being in buffalo was kind of a huge deal. she just lost her husband. if she was some money only person, she would have wiped her hands clean of this, done nothing to be part of the bills as owner situation and just became owner because that's what the will said. She could have said, "who cares about those people. let's sell this team!"

but she put in effort days after her husband died. so that's kind of telling that she respected his passion and willing to carry it forward in his honor.
of course, maybe there is a PR effort, but the money only focus that people want to paint her in seems to be the opposite of her graciousness to the fans and wanting to feel the warmth that the fans have given about her husband.

better days
05-30-2014, 03:16 PM
BUMP

Mace
05-30-2014, 09:13 PM
Not being a legal expert I have no clue. I'm still not seeing Mary being in charge of the trust as opposed to the accountant, as being a bad thing. I am still having a great deal of trouble figuring out what it all means, probably like everyone I've argued with.

None of it matters though because it is not looking so bad atm and so, we all seem to be winning.