Draft Scenario: What do you do?

[Ed]

I've been assuming throughout this off-season that at least 2-3 qb's will go in the top 8, but what if no qb's get picked before #9? I think this would be worst case for the Bills, so here's the scenario. What would you do?

1. Hou - DE J. Clowney
2. Stl - OT G. Robinson
3. Jax - DE/LB K. Mack
4. Cle - WR S. Watkins
5. Oak - WR M. Evans
6. Atl - OT J. Matthews
7. TB - OT T. Lewan
8. Min - TE E. Ebron
9. Buf - On the clock..

Scenario 1: You've made calls to every team, and no one wants to move up, or the value is just total crap. Either way moving down is not an option in this scenario. You have to make a pick. Who do you take?

Scenarion 2: The only legit trade offer you get is from a team that's already picked in the top 5 like Houston or Jax. They offer you their 2nd and 3rd this year and their 1st next year for the #9 pick. Do you take the trade or stick with your pick?

So what do you do in both scenarios? I know the EJ haters would just take their favorite qb, but I'm more interested in the thoughts of those that can accept the reality that EJ is our qb this year for better or worse. This is just for fun, I don't actually expect this to happen.

[Skooby]

Take Johnny Football !!

[The last buffalo fan]

that's crazy, but I could take scenario 2. Oh Lord! :drool:

[Kenny]

I'd take option #2 as long as it's not Houston. Any of those other 4 teams would likely mean at least a Top10 pick next year

[Ed]

I didn't mean to present the scenarios as choosing one or the other. I'm still more curious who people would pick in scenario 1, since the players we've discussed the most are all gone.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I would probably take a QB (and of them, probably Bridgewater, but if they are really sold on EJ I would probably go with Barr, Mosely, or even Nix.

[SquishDaFish]

Cj mosely and no I wouldn't take that trade if I did it wouldn't be Houston

[mysticsoto]

I too would prefer to trade down then and take multiple 2nd rd, 3rd rd and next year's 1st. With the extra 2nd & 3rd we could get a RT, and 2 Guards if we wanted.

If however, I am forced to draft someone w/o a trade, I probably take LB Barr.

[Skooby]

The next years first pick with one of these team could lead to a #1 pick, which might be needed for a QB.

[X-Era]

I've been assuming throughout this off-season that at least 2-3 qb's will go in the top 8, but what if no qb's get picked before #9? I think this would be worst case for the Bills, so here's the scenario. What would you do?

1. Hou - DE J. Clowney
2. Stl - OT G. Robinson
3. Jax - DE/LB K. Mack
4. Cle - WR S. Watkins
5. Oak - WR M. Evans
6. Atl - OT J. Matthews
7. TB - OT T. Lewan
8. Min - TE E. Ebron
9. Buf - On the clock..

Scenario 1: You've made calls to every team, and no one wants to move up, or the value is just total crap. Either way moving down is not an option in this scenario. You have to make a pick. Who do you take?

Scenarion 2: The only legit trade offer you get is from a team that's already picked in the top 5 like Houston or Jax. They offer you their 2nd and 3rd this year and their 1st next year for the #9 pick. Do you take the trade or stick with your pick?

So what do you do in both scenarios? I know the EJ haters would just take their favorite qb, but I'm more interested in the thoughts of those that can accept the reality that EJ is our qb this year for better or worse. This is just for fun, I don't actually expect this to happen.
At least one QB is going top 8.

[Ed]

At least one QB is going top 8.
I agree. I don't think this is realistic, but just wanted to consider the possibility.

[trapezeus]

i would hate option 2, because i think the bills have developed their defense to be ready to win. and i think they need more talent right now on offense and more depth on defense. So getting debt alone in this draft, unless it comes with guards who are ready to play, may not help the bills get better this year.

i just don't know enough of the players at this point, but i think the bills have to look at a QB at that point if they are stuck with the pick and looking at BPA, as they should be.

i would prefer bortles because he seems to fit buffalo in terms of low key guy, always gets the attenttion of his teammates, and has played well on a kind of second tier school. but i would see the allure to johnny football because his style probably is more in line with EJ (more versatile and mobile), than bringing in a guy who would be very different from EJ.

I hope the original post doesn't happen.

[THRILLHO]

If no QB went before us I think there would be some teams willing to trade up.

[Skooby]

If no QB went before us I think there would be some teams willing to trade up.

One would think, right ?

[Kenny]

If I had to choose someone, it would be Mosley for sure. To be honest, even if Mike Evans and Lewan were still there, I'd still be happy with Mosley as the pick.

[TigerJ]

If scenario 2 was available, I'd do it. Then I would look to trade back into the first as the round proceeds. If I could not do that, I could live with just having extra 2nd and 3rd round picks in this draft. If scenario one happens Ha Sean Clinton-Dix is probably my choice. It really is a worst case scenario though. I wouldn't be real happy.

[stuckincincy]

Same here - they say it's a deep draft.

[Night Train]

People will ALWAYS reach for QB's.

2-3 of those guys will be there for the Bills.

But in the spirit of the thread, I'd take the human double team, DT Louis Nix of ND. Put him next to Darius with Spikes right behind them should help eliminate the big runs between the tackles.

[Ginger Vitis]

Teddy Bridgewater!!!

[Mr. Pink]

Take Bridgewater.

[stuckincincy]

Teddy Bridgewater!!!

Bold move!

[DesertFox24]

Take Bridgewater.

yes take the guy with the weak arm and small hands, a great combination for Buffalo weather.

If Buffalo was going to look QBs it would be Bortles.

Later round QBs to consider

Tom Savage
David Falas
Mettenberger, will go higher than 4th round where he should go.
McCarren
Murray stronger arm than Bridgewater

[cookie G]

I'd be really tempted to go off the board and take Johnny Football. On the upside, you have a guy that presents a chance to shock the offense into the next level. A slightly bigger, but far more accurate version of Flutie. If he fails...you still have the guy you picked last year, a guy who could still be a damn good QB.

So what have you lost? Its not like this team hasn't wasted a high draft pick before. If nothing else, I'd think long and hard about it.

Scenario 2...2 picks in the 2nd can find you 2 good OL and upgrade the line and you still have 2 picks in the 3rd for other areas. Not to mention, you have 2 no. 1 picks next year, and stand a good chance of finding a QB if Manuel flames out this year.

Tough choice...

[YardRat]

Take the trade, or take Nix. If I'm dead set on a QB, it would be Bortles, not Bridgewater or Manziel.

[gonzo1105]

You guys that are saying for Mosley and Nix, you do realize that both are being projected as late first rounders?

If this situation played out it would suck but id go non BPA QB and in my opinion that's either OT Zach Martin from ND, O'Dell Beckham WR LSU, or Haha Clinton Dix S Alabama

[X-Era]

We spoke to soon... Your scenario just may happen:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/14/second-round-could-see-a-run-on-quarterbacks/

The right thing to happen would be for these QB's to go later. A team still may take one early. But now that this is out there, the Pats bringing in Bridgewater and Manziel when they are picking so low makes sense... The teams may be thinking no QB is worth a high 1st.

[X-Era]

I would move down first. If we have to stay I'd look at possibly Dix or Morgan Moses. I'm not a Mosley fan... he reminds me a lot of Sheppard.

[X-Era]

The other option is Barr. No, he's not a clear fit for a 4-3. However, neither is Hughes or Lawson. What Barr brings is exceptional athleticism where I'd trust him much more against a TE in the seem or underneath than say Lawson.

And the Bills have stated over and over that they will fit the scheme to the personnel rather than the personnel to a scheme. So it's not completely out of the question. But no, he's not an ideal fit for the sort of scheme Schwartz would seem to want to run.

[clumping platelets]

I go with scenario #2 and then move back up

[Mr. Miyagi]

No thanks on Lewan.

I agree no way this happens because someone will take a QB.

But to play along, Option 2 is my prefered choice.

And if we had to sit there and take someone, Mosley or Barr.

[Ed]

We spoke to soon... Your scenario just may happen:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/14/second-round-could-see-a-run-on-quarterbacks/

The right thing to happen would be for these QB's to go later. A team still may take one early. But now that this is out there, the Pats bringing in Bridgewater and Manziel when they are picking so low makes sense... The teams may be thinking no QB is worth a high 1st.
I'm still expecting a couple qb's to go in the top 8, but there definitely seems to be enough doubt about this qb class that it's not a sure thing like in some years. I'm hoping since this is considered a strong/deep draft that some teams will just take a chance on a qb early knowing that they can still get good players in the next few rounds.

[Ed]

If this does actually happen though, and no qb's go in the top 8, I think it's more realistic that a defensive player like Barr, or a CB would go in the top 8 before Ebron. So Ebron would probably be the most likely pick, but I wanted to exclude him from the conversation since he's already been talked about a lot.

[X-Era]

If this does actually happen though, and no qb's go in the top 8, I think it's more realistic that a defensive player like Barr, or a CB would go in the top 8 before Ebron. So Ebron would probably be the most likely pick, but I wanted to exclude him from the conversation since he's already been talked about a lot.
CB's are always at a premium and Justin Gilbert or even Darquez Dennard may end up being a top 15 pick. Once there, 9 or 10 is not much of a stretch. I don't rule out another WR like Beckham or Lee. Let's not forget that Gilmore was ranked lower than the Bills took him by many leading up to that draft.

Visiting with Shazier, Roby, Hyde, and Beckham makes me think we're prepared for a move down to the later part of round 1.

[GreedoII]

Round 1 Pick 9: Eric Ebron (http://www.google.com/search?q=Eric+Ebron+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), TE, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 9: Cyrus Kouandjio (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cyrus+Kouandjio+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), OT, Alabama
Round 3 Pick 9: Donte Moncrief (http://www.google.com/search?q=Donte+Moncrief+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 9: Jeremy Hill (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeremy+Hill+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), RB, LSU
Round 5 Pick 9: Aaron Murray (http://www.google.com/search?q=Aaron+Murray+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), QB, Georgia
Round 7 Pick 9: Jeff Janis (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeff+Janis+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Saginaw Valley

[mysticsoto]

Round 1 Pick 9: Eric Ebron (http://www.google.com/search?q=Eric+Ebron+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), TE, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 9: Cyrus Kouandjio (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cyrus+Kouandjio+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), OT, Alabama
Round 3 Pick 9: Donte Moncrief (http://www.google.com/search?q=Donte+Moncrief+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 9: Jeremy Hill (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeremy+Hill+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), RB, LSU
Round 5 Pick 9: Aaron Murray (http://www.google.com/search?q=Aaron+Murray+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), QB, Georgia
Round 7 Pick 9: Jeff Janis (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeff+Janis+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Saginaw Valley

That would be a great draft except I feel we need another good Guard badly, so I'd probably change your rd 4 pick to someone like: OG Trai Turner or maybe OG Brandon Linder.

I might consider a Safety for the rd 7 pick also if a decent raw prospect is available.

But overall, this is what I'd like also!

[stuckincincy]

Round 1 Pick 9: Eric Ebron (http://www.google.com/search?q=Eric+Ebron+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), TE, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 9: Cyrus Kouandjio (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cyrus+Kouandjio+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), OT, Alabama
Round 3 Pick 9: Donte Moncrief (http://www.google.com/search?q=Donte+Moncrief+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 9: Jeremy Hill (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeremy+Hill+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), RB, LSU
Round 5 Pick 9: Aaron Murray (http://www.google.com/search?q=Aaron+Murray+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), QB, Georgia
Round 7 Pick 9: Jeff Janis (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeff+Janis+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Saginaw Valley

I'm wary about Kouandjio. As well as Ebron, so high. And all 7 picks being on offense? Has that ever happened?

[The last buffalo fan]

I'm wary about Kouandjio. As well as Ebron, so high. And all 7 picks being on offense? Has that ever happened?

No, because those are only six picks.

[stuckincincy]

No, because those are only six picks.

OK, GreedoII - make your 7th pick!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

No, because those are only six picks.

Well we did use the 7th pick to trade for an offensive player, so...

[stuckincincy]

Well we did use the 7th pick to trade for an offensive player, so...

Good call! They sold #6 to TB for WR Williams. My apology to GreedoII...

[The last buffalo fan]

Round 1 Pick 9: Eric Ebron (http://www.google.com/search?q=Eric+Ebron+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), TE, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 9: Cyrus Kouandjio (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cyrus+Kouandjio+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), OT, Alabama
Round 3 Pick 9: Donte Moncrief (http://www.google.com/search?q=Donte+Moncrief+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Ole Miss
Round 4 Pick 9: Jeremy Hill (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeremy+Hill+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), RB, LSU
Round 5 Pick 9: Aaron Murray (http://www.google.com/search?q=Aaron+Murray+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), QB, Georgia
Round 6 Pick 9: Mike Williams, WR, Tampa Bay Bucs
Round 7 Pick 9: Jeff Janis (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jeff+Janis+Draft+Profile&btnI&as_sitesearch=nfl.com), WR, Saginaw Valley

[stuckincincy]

I need help with counting! :chair:

[The last buffalo fan]

I need help with counting! :chair:

Please dont count with me!

[BB4ever]

I've been assuming throughout this off-season that at least 2-3 qb's will go in the top 8, but what if no qb's get picked before #9? I think this would be worst case for the Bills, so here's the scenario. What would you do?

1. Hou - DE J. Clowney
2. Stl - OT G. Robinson
3. Jax - DE/LB K. Mack
4. Cle - WR S. Watkins
5. Oak - WR M. Evans
6. Atl - OT J. Matthews
7. TB - OT T. Lewan
8. Min - TE E. Ebron
9. Buf - On the clock..

Scenario 1: You've made calls to every team, and no one wants to move up, or the value is just total crap. Either way moving down is not an option in this scenario. You have to make a pick. Who do you take?

Scenarion 2: The only legit trade offer you get is from a team that's already picked in the top 5 like Houston or Jax. They offer you their 2nd and 3rd this year and their 1st next year for the #9 pick. Do you take the trade or stick with your pick?

So what do you do in both scenarios? I know the EJ haters would just take their favorite qb, but I'm more interested in the thoughts of those that can accept the reality that EJ is our qb this year for better or worse. This is just for fun, I don't actually expect this to happen.

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