I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

[BillsImpossible]

Clowney had 13 sacks in 2012.

3 in 2013.

The, "He was playing to not get hurt," is a bad excuse that makes me question Clowney's character as a football player.

Mack had 10.5 sacks in 2013.

Total sacks?

Khalil Mack had 28.5 sacks in 4 years, Clowney had 24 sacks in 3 years. That's a wash.

But career tackles? It's not even close.

Mack 68, 65, 94, and 100 tackles in his college career for a total of 327.

Clowney 36, 54, 40 in his college career for a total of 130.

Not having an official team owner also presents a unique opportunity for Doug Whaley to make a huge splash and take a chance he might not be able to make if Ralph were still alive.

What would you do? Protect the quarterback first, or trade up to draft a dominant defensive player like Khalil Mack?

If Mack is still on the board at 5, and the Bills know they can get a very good right tackle in the second or third round, would you give Oakland a buzz?

[Skooby]

I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.

[HAMMER]

Mack is a 3-4 LB.

[BillsImpossible]

I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.

I understand that stats can be manipulated, but you can't discount the entire body of production throughout each player's college career.

Linebackers in general often have more tackles than defensive ends, but great defensive ends always have more tackles than linebackers.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr00.htm

Clowney has been compared to the next Bruce Smith, but I don't see it.

Clowney was double and tripple teamed, so what? Same thing happened to Bruce.

I don't think Clowney is going to be great.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Mack is a 3-4 LB.

He can play in any base defense and you can move him around, but you're right. His skills would be maximized as a 3-4 OLB.

[BillsImpossible]

Mack is a 3-4 LB.

He is an OLB.

Mack as the "Sam", Spikes in the Middle, and Alonso at weak side linebacker.

I don't think Schwartz is married to the 4-3 as much as people think. If anything, they will more than likely run a 3-4 at least 40% of the time.

Dareus and both Williams have played in a 3-4 and 4-3.

NFL defenses are much more complex these days than a simple 4-3 or 3-4 alignment.

[Ginger Vitis]

3 weeks ago you wanted the Bills to trade up to get Clowney lol

[BillsImpossible]

I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.

Two of the best math teacher's I have ever had passed away about 10 years ago. Mrs. Smock and Mr. Kruck. They taught me more than just math...they were great people that cared about me, and made going to school fun.

[BillsImpossible]

3 weeks ago you wanted the Bills to trade up to get Clowney lol

I changed my mind after further review.

[Skooby]

Two of the best math teacher's I have ever had passed away about 10 years ago. Mrs. Smock and Mr. Kruck. They taught me more than just math...they were great people that cared about me, and made going to school fun.

Sound like great folks.

[Skooby]

I changed my mind after further review.

Everyone does that now & again.

[Skooby]

I understand that stats can be manipulated, but you can't discount the entire body of production throughout each player's college career.

Linebackers in general often have more tackles than defensive ends, but great defensive ends always have more tackles than linebackers.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr00.htm

Clowney has been compared to the next Bruce Smith, but I don't see it.

Clowney was double and tripple teamed, so what? Same thing happened to Bruce.

I don't think Clowney is going to be great.

All I can say is he has dominated at his position & besides over-running some plays, he'd be a handful on nearly every play. Remember that Bruce Smith factor that you always had to account for his whereabouts ? When teams do that for JC, who guards Mario Williams, who is a monster in his own a right ? How about Dareus, who stops him ?? Kyle Williams is a pro-bowler, so I hope you see where I'm going with this, we'd have the best not second best D-line in the NFL.

[gr8slayer]

"I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney" said no one ever.

[BillsImpossible]

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"It took a lot of hard work and some good teammates through over the years to help me get to that point."

Mack went on to praise his coaches.

Clowney never gave praise to his teammates, and never mentioned his coaches.

He never smiled either.

I think Mack has just as much if not more ability to play in the NFL, and a hell of a lot more charisma.

[Luisito23]

Would be really happy with either of them...Both future stars.

[YardRat]

I understand that stats can be manipulated, but you can't discount the entire body of production throughout each player's college career.

Linebackers in general often have more tackles than defensive ends, but great defensive ends always have more tackles than linebackers.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr00.htm

Clowney has been compared to the next Bruce Smith, but I don't see it.

Clowney was double and tripple teamed, so what? Same thing happened to Bruce.

I don't think Clowney is going to be great.

Bruce Smith never played a season in a Bills uniform where he wasn't behind at least one, and more often than not two and three, linebackers in team tackles.

[BillsImpossible]

Would be really happy with either of them...Both future stars.

I'm not sure about that now.

Anyone notice the difference in body language?

Who would you rather play for after listening to both interviews?

[BillsImpossible]

Bruce Smith never played a season in a Bills uniform where he wasn't behind at least one, and more often than not two and three, linebackers in team tackles.

Bruce Smith had 101 tackles in 1990.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr00.htm

Cornelius Bennett had 96 tackles in 1990.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BennCo00.htm

In 1993, Bruce Smith had 108 tackles.

Biscuit had 102.

[kishoph]

"I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney" said no one ever.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=901566-texans-gm-likes-khalil-mack-over-jadeveon-clowney?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000344338/article/greg-cosell-prefers-khalil-mack-over-jadeveon-clowney

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1969346-mike-mayock-claims-hed-take-khalil-mack-no-1-overall-in-2014-nfl-draft

I guess somebody said it.

I don't like players that take games off, let alone take a whole season off. Clowney's combine doesn't impress me at all. considering he dropped almost 20 pounds from his playing weight (from 266 to 249) so he could run faster and jump higher, big deal. So what he was doubled teamed, not the 1st football player to ever be doubled teamed, Does anyone really think that Mack wasn't doubled teamed or had team game planning against him ? See below.

http://edraft.com/nfl/news/2014-nfl-draft-taking-a-look-at-small-school-product-khalil-mack/

Mack may have played in the MAC, but all you have to do is watch the game vs Ohio St. to see he's the real deal.

[YardRat]

Bruce Smith had 101 tackles in 1990.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr00.htm

Cornelius Bennett had 96 tackles in 1990.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BennCo00.htm

In 1993, Bruce Smith had 108 tackles.

Biscuit had 102.

In 1990, Talley had 123 tackles. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1990.htm
In 1993, Talley had 136 and Patton had 118. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1993.htm

I'll reiterate...Bruce Smith never played a season in a Bills uniform where he wasn't behind at least one, and more often than not two and three, linebackers in team tackles.

[Skooby]

In 1990, Talley had 123 tackles. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1990.htm
In 1993, Talley had 136 and Patton had 118. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1993.htm

I'll reiterate...Bruce Smith never played a season in a Bills uniform where he wasn't behind at least one, and more often than not two and three, linebackers in team tackles.

Ask the opposing offense's coaches who they game-planned to try & stop the most, it wasn't Patton.