I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

    Clowney had 13 sacks in 2012.

    3 in 2013.

    The, "He was playing to not get hurt," is a bad excuse that makes me question Clowney's character as a football player.

    Mack had 10.5 sacks in 2013.

    Total sacks?

    Khalil Mack had 28.5 sacks in 4 years, Clowney had 24 sacks in 3 years. That's a wash.

    But career tackles? It's not even close.

    Mack 68, 65, 94, and 100 tackles in his college career for a total of 327.

    Clowney 36, 54, 40 in his college career for a total of 130.

    Not having an official team owner also presents a unique opportunity for Doug Whaley to make a huge splash and take a chance he might not be able to make if Ralph were still alive.

    What would you do? Protect the quarterback first, or trade up to draft a dominant defensive player like Khalil Mack?

    If Mack is still on the board at 5, and the Bills know they can get a very good right tackle in the second or third round, would you give Oakland a buzz?
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

    I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.

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    • HAMMER
      I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
      • Jul 2003
      • 8132

      #3
      Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

      Mack is a 3-4 LB.

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      • BillsImpossible
        Registered User
        • Mar 2013
        • 16206

        #4
        Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

        Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
        I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.
        I understand that stats can be manipulated, but you can't discount the entire body of production throughout each player's college career.

        Linebackers in general often have more tackles than defensive ends, but great defensive ends always have more tackles than linebackers.

        Checkout the latest stats for Bruce Smith. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.


        Clowney has been compared to the next Bruce Smith, but I don't see it.

        Clowney was double and tripple teamed, so what? Same thing happened to Bruce.

        I don't think Clowney is going to be great.

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        • ParanoidAndroid
          My battery is low and it's getting dark.
          • Apr 2004
          • 16862

          #5
          Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

          Originally posted by HAMMER View Post
          Mack is a 3-4 LB.
          He can play in any base defense and you can move him around, but you're right. His skills would be maximized as a 3-4 OLB.

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          • BillsImpossible
            Registered User
            • Mar 2013
            • 16206

            #6
            Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

            Originally posted by HAMMER View Post
            Mack is a 3-4 LB.
            He is an OLB.

            Mack as the "Sam", Spikes in the Middle, and Alonso at weak side linebacker.

            I don't think Schwartz is married to the 4-3 as much as people think. If anything, they will more than likely run a 3-4 at least 40% of the time.

            Dareus and both Williams have played in a 3-4 and 4-3.

            NFL defenses are much more complex these days than a simple 4-3 or 3-4 alignment.

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            • Ginger Vitis
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              • Feb 2009
              • 3451

              #7
              Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

              3 weeks ago you wanted the Bills to trade up to get Clowney lol

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              • BillsImpossible
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                • Mar 2013
                • 16206

                #8
                Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                I'd like to punch your math teacher in the mouth.
                Two of the best math teacher's I have ever had passed away about 10 years ago. Mrs. Smock and Mr. Kruck. They taught me more than just math...they were great people that cared about me, and made going to school fun.

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                • BillsImpossible
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16206

                  #9
                  Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                  Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                  3 weeks ago you wanted the Bills to trade up to get Clowney lol
                  I changed my mind after further review.

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                  • MitchMurrayDowntown
                    Skoobasaurus-Rex
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 22284

                    #10
                    Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                    Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                    Two of the best math teacher's I have ever had passed away about 10 years ago. Mrs. Smock and Mr. Kruck. They taught me more than just math...they were great people that cared about me, and made going to school fun.
                    Sound like great folks.
                    Last edited by Skooby; 04-28-2014, 07:38 PM.

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                    • MitchMurrayDowntown
                      Skoobasaurus-Rex
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 22284

                      #11
                      Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                      Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                      I changed my mind after further review.
                      Everyone does that now & again.

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                      • MitchMurrayDowntown
                        Skoobasaurus-Rex
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 22284

                        #12
                        Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                        Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                        I understand that stats can be manipulated, but you can't discount the entire body of production throughout each player's college career.

                        Linebackers in general often have more tackles than defensive ends, but great defensive ends always have more tackles than linebackers.

                        Checkout the latest stats for Bruce Smith. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.


                        Clowney has been compared to the next Bruce Smith, but I don't see it.

                        Clowney was double and tripple teamed, so what? Same thing happened to Bruce.

                        I don't think Clowney is going to be great.
                        All I can say is he has dominated at his position & besides over-running some plays, he'd be a handful on nearly every play. Remember that Bruce Smith factor that you always had to account for his whereabouts ? When teams do that for JC, who guards Mario Williams, who is a monster in his own a right ? How about Dareus, who stops him ?? Kyle Williams is a pro-bowler, so I hope you see where I'm going with this, we'd have the best not second best D-line in the NFL.
                        Last edited by Skooby; 04-28-2014, 07:51 PM.

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                        • gr8slayer
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 20796

                          #13
                          Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                          "I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney" said no one ever.

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                          • BillsImpossible
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16206

                            #14
                            Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                            Me me me, I, I, I...





                            "It took a lot of hard work and some good teammates through over the years to help me get to that point."

                            Mack went on to praise his coaches.

                            Clowney never gave praise to his teammates, and never mentioned his coaches.

                            He never smiled either.

                            I think Mack has just as much if not more ability to play in the NFL, and a hell of a lot more charisma.

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                            • Luisito23
                              Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 7434

                              #15
                              Re: I Like Khalil Mack More Than Jadeveon Clowney

                              Would be really happy with either of them...Both future stars.
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