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  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    A BPA pick for BUF?

    Big Board: Pitt penetrator Donald reaches No. 7 as steadiest riser
    by Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com May 1, 2014 8:18 PM ET

    "7. DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh (6-1, 285, 4.68): Given the way he dominated competition in the ACC and at the Senior Bowl and combine, no player has enjoyed a steadier rise up draft boards this year than Donald. His size likely limits him to a three-technique role in the 4-3 alignment, but given the NFL's increasing reliance on the pass, he is entering the league at the perfect time to star in just this capacity."...

    No doubt that the pass rule changes made interior pressure a priority.

    Anybody like Donald at #9?
    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.
  • BuffaloRedleg
    Registered User
    • Aug 2013
    • 1270

    #2
    Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

    nope.

    Weighted BPA is always the way to go.

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    • stuckincincy
      Buffalo Bills Fan
      • Sep 2003
      • 15084

      #3
      Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

      Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
      nope.

      Weighted BPA is always the way to go.
      That's a new term to me- weighted BPA. What does it mean?
      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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      • BuffaloRedleg
        Registered User
        • Aug 2013
        • 1270

        #4
        Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

        You weight positions based on their relative importance and based on your clear strengths/weaknesses.

        For example, kicker might be BPA but of course you don't take him. Some positions on this team have glaring weaknesses and to take someone at one of our strengths would be a wasted pick (relatively speaking, since the RT position not being addressed would hinder us more than drafting a BPA DT would help us).

        Make a list of positions you are weak at and take the BPA out of those groups.

        Since QB is out of the conversation, RT/WR/LB/TE (in that order) would be the only positions worthy of discussion unless you are drafting low enough where you just absolutely could not pass on him (Clowney).

        Your board should be weighted so that all things equal, a RT would be above a WR. Even if a TE is slightly better than the RT, you take the RT because of his relative importance to the team and the consequences of not addressing that position.

        I've had a lot of coffee and maybe I'm not explaining it well, but yeah I'm just not a big fan of blind BPA. The gain you would make of drafting the "slightly better" player does not even come close to the loss of not addressing a position of great need.

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        • stuckincincy
          Buffalo Bills Fan
          • Sep 2003
          • 15084

          #5
          Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

          Thanks - your explanation answered my question.
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          • BuffaloRedleg
            Registered User
            • Aug 2013
            • 1270

            #6
            Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

            Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
            Thanks - your explanation answered my question.
            I think sticking to your board is important, but a board shouldn't just be BPA. And once it is set, it is SET.

            I bet these extra couple weeks caused some teams to talk themselves out of some picks that they are going to smack themselves in the head about in the future. Hopefully we aren't one of htem.

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            • Bill Cody
              Registered User
              • Sep 2004
              • 11885

              #7
              Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

              Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
              nope.

              Weighted BPA is always the way to go.
              you don't use a top 10 pick on a RT. Ever.

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              • coastal
                Legendary Zoner
                • Mar 2005
                • 15513

                #8
                Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                Of course... The guys clearly a talent and Kyle Williams is another year older with Achilles problems.

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                • Swiper
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 33105

                  #9
                  Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                  Originally posted by coastal View Post
                  Of course... The guys clearly a talent and Kyle Williams is another year older with Achilles problems.
                  Alan Branch is why you don't draft Aaron Donald. Period.

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                  • Night Train
                    Retired - On Several Levels
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 33117

                    #10
                    Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                    He's an animal who can line up anywhere on the DL and bring instant heat. Freakish ability to get into the backfield and blow up plays.

                    I have zero problem with him being a strong consideration at #9. You can still get a RT in Round 2.
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                    • Mace
                      Haha...yeah you think so ?
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 20314

                      #11
                      Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                      For the sake of it, I don't want another Kyle Williams in a 4-3, I want a wall of Williams ala Minnesota a few years back. They stuffed running games and threw O-linemen into QB's.

                      But I don't know what Schwartz intends. Gap shooting DT's tend to overshoot on runs. Doesn't mean we mastered the art of using gap shooting DT's. Sometimes you do use a top 10 pick on a tackle though. You can also get a freakish raw DT in later rounds. Airball.

                      No one much will upset me this draft if they don't trade up, and I really really want them to NOT trade up, not in this deep draft.

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                      • BuffaloRedleg
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1270

                        #12
                        Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                        Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
                        you don't use a top 10 pick on a RT. Ever.
                        Why? People keep saying this but I really don't think it's true anymore.

                        I don't see how having a franchise RT wouldn't be a great boon for your team.

                        Don't give me any baloney about opportunity cost. If you pass on legit talent like Matthews because he'll play RT and take a guy with higher risk or won't be effective because they QB is on his ass all the time, you just costed yourself the opportunity to have a quality football team.

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                        • The Popcorn
                          Cincinatti > Buffalo
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1379

                          #13
                          Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                          Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
                          you don't use a top 10 pick on a RT. Ever.
                          If he appears to be a solid 10-12 year starter, why not?
                          The Popcorn and Terrell Owens are coming to a town near you.

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                          • Mace
                            Haha...yeah you think so ?
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 20314

                            #14
                            Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                            Originally posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
                            Why? People keep saying this but I really don't think it's true anymore.

                            I don't see how having a franchise RT wouldn't be a great boon for your team.

                            Don't give me any baloney about opportunity cost. If you pass on legit talent like Matthews because he'll play RT and take a guy with higher risk or won't be effective because they QB is on his ass all the time, you just costed yourself the opportunity to have a quality football team.
                            If we have franchise anything 10 years I'll be happy.

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                            • YardRat
                              Well, lookie here...
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 86146

                              #15
                              Re: A BPA pick for BUF?

                              Absolutely. DT is not only a need, but Schwartz likes them in the first round.
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