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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

    The Bills D is solid. They need maybe some depth at DE and LB but otherwise they are set.

    What this team needs badly is a playmaker on offense. We CANNOT sit at 9 and take a RT. That would be stupid. We need a gamebreaker. The Bills know this which is probably why there is so much talk about us moving up.

    If we move up it may be for Mack or Clowney but that is because those two are that good.

    Personally I don't think they are looking to move up to 1. I think they are looking to trade up to between 3 and 5 in order to land Watkins, Evans or Mack.

    If we stay at 9 then we should take the #1 TE in Ebron and get a playmaker down the middle. Settling for the #3 overall OT or top OG in Martin is just silly and last I checked Levitre didn't get us to the playoffs.

    Trade up for one of the top talents or stay and hope an explosive talent falls to you. No RTs at 9.
  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    #2
    Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

    Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
    The Bills D is solid. They need maybe some depth at DE and LB but otherwise they are set.

    What this team needs badly is a playmaker on offense. We CANNOT sit at 9 and take a RT. That would be stupid. We need a gamebreaker. The Bills know this which is probably why there is so much talk about us moving up.

    If we move up it may be for Mack or Clowney but that is because those two are that good.

    Personally I don't think they are looking to move up to 1. I think they are looking to trade up to between 3 and 5 in order to land Watkins, Evans or Mack.

    If we stay at 9 then we should take the #1 TE in Ebron and get a playmaker down the middle. Settling for the #3 overall OT or top OG in Martin is just silly and last I checked Levitre didn't get us to the playoffs.

    Trade up for one of the top talents or stay and hope an explosive talent falls to you. No RTs at 9.
    Seems that recently, clubs have drafted LTs that end up being RTs. BAL's Oher and CIN's Smith come to mind. The highest-drafted RT in my recollection was Willie Anderson in 1996, at #10. He had a fine career.
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    • Buffalogic
      Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
      • Feb 2006
      • 5345

      #3
      Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

      ^ Erick Fisher last year. Number one overall pick played RT all year. They are planning to start him at LT this year though.

      Top 10 tackles are a waste in my opinion.

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      • Turf
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 8378

        #4
        Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

        Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
        The Bills D is solid. They need maybe some depth at DE and LB but otherwise they are set.

        What this team needs badly is a playmaker on offense. We CANNOT sit at 9 and take a RT. That would be stupid. We need a gamebreaker. The Bills know this which is probably why there is so much talk about us moving up.

        If we move up it may be for Mack or Clowney but that is because those two are that good.

        Personally I don't think they are looking to move up to 1. I think they are looking to trade up to between 3 and 5 in order to land Watkins, Evans or Mack.

        If we stay at 9 then we should take the #1 TE in Ebron and get a playmaker down the middle. Settling for the #3 overall OT or top OG in Martin is just silly and last I checked Levitre didn't get us to the playoffs.

        Trade up for one of the top talents or stay and hope an explosive talent falls to you. No RTs at 9.
        I have to agree. If Ebron is all that is left take him. I know its high for a TE but he's a play maker and we need a TE. We don't need another small fast WR.
        Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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        • Mahdi
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 10585

          #5
          Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

          Yeah they always had designs on moving Fisher to LT. Seeing as how we have one of the top young LTs in NFL I just can't understand a RT at 9.

          The Bills can't be that dumb to think a RT is going to come in and truly help them make the playoffs. We need a player that takes our offense to another level, like a QB.

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          • Bill Cody
            Registered User
            • Sep 2004
            • 11905

            #6
            Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

            If Johnny Manziel is there at 9 we will have some serious options. Manziel is the biggest wild card in the draft. He could go top 5 or he drop as far as 13 to St. Louis. If he's there I would expect Whaley will get multiple calls including the Cowboys at 17. 17 is a nice spot to draft Ebron and you net an extra 2nd. Or we could draft him ourselves. I'm on board with that too.

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            • mikemac2001
              is the creepy cross dresser staring at you in the corner
              • Mar 2003
              • 4574

              #7
              Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
              Yeah they always had designs on moving Fisher to LT. Seeing as how we have one of the top young LTs in NFL I just can't understand a RT at 9.

              The Bills can't be that dumb to think a RT is going to come in and truly help them make the playoffs. We need a player that takes our offense to another level, like a QB.
              If they believe in EJ then yes a RT and make us have one of the better olines allowing better YPC and him more time to allow his WR's to get open....you know how tom brady sits in the pocket all day waiting on crossing routes and how they always seem to get yards running. I dont want an OT but if its the best player there then either move down or grab him

              just hope someone falls or a dumb run on qbs

              MUCK
              FIAMI

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              • stuckincincy
                Buffalo Bills Fan
                • Sep 2003
                • 15084

                #8
                Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                Yeah they always had designs on moving Fisher to LT. Seeing as how we have one of the top young LTs in NFL I just can't understand a RT at 9.

                The Bills can't be that dumb to think a RT is going to come in and truly help them make the playoffs. We need a player that takes our offense to another level, like a QB.
                I think you have to filter, so to speak, Glenn's LT performance. With Fitz and then with his successors, BUF ran a quick pass scheme, in my view - to try to mask overall protection and qb question marks. AFAIK, most of the top-rated OLs are listed as LTs.
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                • Buffalogic
                  Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5345

                  #9
                  Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                  Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                  I think you have to filter, so to speak, Glenn's LT performance. With Fitz and then with his successors, BUF ran a quick pass scheme, in my view - to try to mask overall protection and qb question marks. AFAIK, most of the top-rated OLs are listed as LTs.
                  And a majority of top 10 LT's selected the last ten years have been busts. It's 50/50 at best. None really develop into stars, Joe Thomas only one. Mostly there are average to good starters or busts that hop teams trying to figure out what happened. I hate any OT in top 10 no matter what year it is.

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                  • stuckincincy
                    Buffalo Bills Fan
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 15084

                    #10
                    Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                    Originally posted by Wagon Circler View Post
                    And a majority of top 10 LT's selected the last ten years have been busts. It's 50/50 at best. None really develop into stars, Joe Thomas only one. Mostly there are average to good starters or busts that hop teams trying to figure out what happened. I hate any OT in top 10 no matter what year it is.
                    Well, one thing's for sure - you can't accuse BUF of drafting numerous OLs in the top 10 during their 14 year playoff drought. Mike Williams was their one and only.
                    Last edited by stuckincincy; 05-08-2014, 01:18 PM.
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                    • The Jokeman
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 9995

                      #11
                      Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                      Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                      Well, one thing's for sure - you can't accuse BUF of drafting numerous OLs in the top 10 during their 14 year playoff drought. Mike Williams was their one and only.
                      and even then most felt the better prospect that year was Bryant McKinnie who's had a pretty good career thus far.

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                      • stuckincincy
                        Buffalo Bills Fan
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 15084

                        #12
                        Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                        Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                        and even then most felt the better prospect that year was Bryant McKinnie who's had a pretty good career thus far.
                        I never understood the Williams pick - such a big man, but with ankles like toothpicks.
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                        • The Jokeman
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 9995

                          #13
                          Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                          Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                          I never understood the Williams pick - such a big man, but with ankles like toothpicks.
                          I think the Bills fell in love with his personality. The guy was very charismatic and did some good things at the combine.

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                          • stuckincincy
                            Buffalo Bills Fan
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 15084

                            #14
                            Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                            Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                            I think the Bills fell in love with his personality. The guy was very charismatic and did some good things at the combine.
                            True.
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                            • Kenny
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2728

                              #15
                              Re: Bills NEED Playnaker at 9 or Trade Up

                              Originally posted by Wagon Circler View Post
                              And a majority of top 10 LT's selected the last ten years have been busts. It's 50/50 at best. None really develop into stars, Joe Thomas only one. Mostly there are average to good starters or busts that hop teams trying to figure out what happened. I hate any OT in top 10 no matter what year it is.

                              How so? It's too early to tell from last year's class, even though Fisher, Johnson, and Joeckel look to be on their way to be solid starters.
                              Kalil in Minnesota looks solid. Tyron Smith is an anchor for the Cowboys, and I'd love to have guys like Okung and Trent Williams.

                              Sure you have guys like Jason Smith, Chris Williams (who might be our starter at guard) and Levi Brown fizzling out, but OT in round one/top10 look's pretty safe to me.

                              I'd even be willing to move up a bit to #5 to get ahead of ATL if Jake Matthews was in play.
                              Last edited by Kenny; 05-08-2014, 02:20 PM.

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