Draft Day Unsubstantiated Rumors

[DraftBoy]

There are going to be a few of these between now and the #9 pick, may as well centralize them all.

Saw this buzzing around figured I'd pass it along though I think its almost entirely bogus.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1242639/buffalo-bills-rumors-c-j-spiller-could-be-traded-to-texans-for-no-1-pick/


Unsourced rumors online are circulating that the Bills are talking to the Houston Texans about shipping off Spiller, their No. 9 pick and another high round pick in this year’s draft to get to the top spot. Doing so would allow the Bills to take Jadeveon Clowney, who the team’s front office views as a once-in-a-generation talent.

This week the Buffalo Bills rumors kicked around to Buffalo Rumblings, which broke down the team’s running back situation but didn’t report on any specific trade talks.

[OpIv37]

Ok- if we do that, who plays RB? I like Jackson but he can't carry the load by himself.

[D'Angelo Vickers]

Ok- if we do that, who plays RB? I like Jackson but he can't carry the load by himself.

IF they did that, you would have to assume they like the RB's that they anticipate being available in rounds 2-4.

I would think that Jerry Hughes would be more attractive to Houston...

[The Jokeman]

Ok- if we do that, who plays RB? I like Jackson but he can't carry the load by himself.

The topic of the thread says it all. Honestly I think people that make these things up don't understand that RB values in today's NFL are very small. I mean look at how year after year RBs are getting drafted later and later. Also year after year RBs like CJ2K are released and not traded. Guys like Darren Sproles are traded for 5th Round picks making Spiller's value around a 3rd Round pick at best. I honestly think most rumor spreaders hear one rumor (that the Bills and Texans are in talk of trading) and tosses in conjecture to make "new rumors". As imagine they think we want to move Spiller because of the talk we inquired about CJ2K before he was traded and that the Eagles had interest in trading for Spiller. Until proven otherwise I feel any trade talk about the Bills moving up to Houston's spot are really coming out of Houston so they can try and get more out of Atlanta and/or the Bills are spreading the word so a guy that they want at 9 (my thought is Matthews) slides to them.

[trapezeus]

i'd rather give up spiller than a boat load of picks. but i don't see that happening.

my hope is that we stay at 9. that in some ways will be a small victory.

[Skooby]

So anyone hurt last year is on the block, Stevie / Spiller...

[The Jokeman]

So anyone hurt last year is on the block, Stevie / Spiller...

We might as well trade Kiki now as he didn't play every defensive snap last year and there's no way he can keep up that pace in 2014. [/sarcasm]

[feldspar]

We might as well trade Kiki now as he didn't play every defensive snap last year and there's no way he can keep up that pace in 2014. [/sarcasm]

I think that Kiko did, in fact, play every snap last year.

Anyway, the speculation and rumors will end soon, and thank God.

I'm not on board with trading Spiller or Stevie, though.

[Mr. Pink]

I'd gladly trade Spiller if it would bring anything of value.

However, in today's NFL, RBs don't bring much value and getting a 4th round pick for him is something I'd never advocate.

[better days]

My question is why don't the Texans think Clowney is a once in a generation player & draft him themselves?

Would you trade the right to draft Bruce Smith?

[Mr. Pink]

My question is why don't the Texans think Clowney is a once in a generation player & draft him themselves?

Would you trade the right to draft Bruce Smith?

They already have a pass rushing specialist DE who plays havoc on other team's O-lines.

They already had the ability to maintain a second very good DE that ended up coming here instead.

I think based on their history and team, they have shown that they don't value having two of the same type of players on the d-line and the money it entails tying up. So that makes them not as high on actually drafting Clowney not what they think of him as a player.

Make sense?

[stuckincincy]

My question is why don't the Texans think Clowney is a once in a generation player & draft him themselves?

Would you trade the right to draft Bruce Smith?

Good point.

[OpIv37]

My question is why don't the Texans think Clowney is a once in a generation player & draft him themselves?

Would you trade the right to draft Bruce Smith?

Maybe they will take him. They might just be trying to see if someone will sell the farm for him and if they don't get the right offer they'll stay at 1.

[The Jokeman]

My question is why don't the Texans think Clowney is a once in a generation player & draft him themselves?

Would you trade the right to draft Bruce Smith?
I think the Texans think they have a "Bruce Smith" in JJ Watt but they lack a Jim Kelly yet there are no Kelly's in this draft and why looking to trade down to acquire more picks. Personally I think Watt's a bit over-rated and the Texans should take Clowney and/or Mack. In terms of the Bills, we have Mario Williams and Williams/Dareus giving us one of the more formidable D-lines in the NFL already. Sure Clowney make it even better but not at the expense of losing out to a possible game changer TE (Ebron) or plug and play tackle (Matthews or Lewan) and whomever we could take later this year and possibly next year. I mean everyone points at adding Kelly is what turned the Bills around in the late 80s but if ask me what turned us around then were the 1987 and 1988 drafts. As in 1987 we acquired: Corneilius Bennett*, Shane Conlan, Nate Odomes, Leon Seals, Keith McKeller, Howard Ballard and 1988 gave us Thurman Thomas, Jeff Wright and Carlton Bailey.

[X-Era]

There are going to be a few of these between now and the #9 pick, may as well centralize them all.

Saw this buzzing around figured I'd pass it along though I think its almost entirely bogus.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1242639/buffalo-bills-rumors-c-j-spiller-could-be-traded-to-texans-for-no-1-pick/You and I liked the Spiller pick and I love Spiller. But after this year he has the player option and may be gone anyway. And RB's are a dime a dozen these days. Add in that we will be drafting a RB in a mid round (I hope its Seastrunk)... There could be worse things to do than trading Spiller.

[Don't Panic]

Going after Clowney is making more and more sense to me. He will be on a reasonable contract until Mario is out of contract, so we could have a nice segue in terms of managing our D Line salaries. Plus, we would be so hard to game plan with that line. That line is Giants good from their recent SB window. Makes the LBs and DBs better automatically. Still... Spiller, #9 and another high pick? That's a boatload to give. The only way I do it is if I'm convinced I'm not bringing Spiller back after next year.

[swiper]

OMG with this thread. Is it 8 PM yet?

[GreedoII]

RB can be had anywhere. Draft one in the 3-5th b and you have a new starter...

[Buffalogic]

We would be fine with Dixon/Jackson getting all the carries. If we trade Spiller tonight, I don't see an immediate need to draft a RB this year.

[mysticsoto]

According to nfldraftcountdown.com, the Bills may want Robinson or Watkins:

From their mock draft:

There may not be a better indication of just how strong the top of the 2014 NFL Draft is than the realistic possibility of Michigan OT Taylor Lewan falling all the way to the back end of the Top 10. A legitimate case can be made that Lewan is on par with or perhaps an even better prospect than Eric Fisher, who went #1 overall a year ago. The offensive line may not be the Bills most pressing concern but there is certainly room to upgrade and Lewan is simply too good to pass up at this point. Lewan has drawn favorable comparisons to Jake Long and there are indeed a lot of similarities, most notably their large frames, well-rounded games and blue-collar mentalities. There has been some debate as to whether Lewan is capable of protecting the blindside at the next level but an impressive showing against Jadeveon Clowney in the 2013 Outback Bowl along with an outstanding workout at the Scouting Combine should have put those fears to rest. Also keep in mind that similar concerns were raised when Long was coming out of college and they proved to be unfounded. Even in a worst-case scenario Lewan should have no problem excelling on the right side. There are some character concerns that could affect Lewan’s stock and push him down the board a bit but I don’t envision that happening. If Lewan is gone, which is a distinct possibility, they could turn their attention to Notre Dame OT / OG Zack Martin. It’s never a bad idea to surround a young quarterback like E.J. Manuel with weapons and North Carolina TE Eric Ebron would bring an entirely new dimension to the Bills up-and-coming offense. Alabama S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix or Louisville S Calvin Pryor could be darkhorses but this sure appears as though it'll come down to Lewan / Martin or Ebron. One last thing to keep a eye on is a possible trade up, with Auburn OT Greg Robinson or Clemson WR Sammy Watkins rumored to be potential targets.


http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

[stuckincincy]

The Bill's up-and-coming offense?

[DraftBoy]

OMG with this thread. Is it 8 PM yet?

Would you rather me post one that says: "BREAKING: BILLS TO INCLUDE SPILLER IN DEAL FOR #1 PICK".

[stuckincincy]

Would you rather me post one that says: "BREAKING: BILLS TO INCLUDE SPILLER IN DEAL FOR #1 PICK".

Sure. That would stir things up. :jig:

[justasportsfan]

According to nfldraftcountdown.com, the Bills may want Robinson or Watkins:




like everyone else, they probably read it here on BZ

[The King]

I honestly think the Bills want Mack. He's the only name we haven't seen the Bills gushing over. He's a UB guy he fills a need, he costs less than moving up to #1.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Spiller plus our 1 and our 2 would be a massive steal for Clowney. Not that Houston would do that, but I would be over the moon if they did.

[mysticsoto]

I hope this isn't true!

Report: Bills Have “Serious” Interest In LSU WR Odell Beckham (http://nfltraderumors.co/report-bills-have-serious-interest-in-lsu-wr-odell-beckham/)

Joe Buscaglia of WGR 550 in Buffalo, citing a league source, reports that the Bills are “very serious” about drafting LSU WR Odell Beckham Jr at No. 9 overall. Buscaglia adds that the Bills could also consider North Carolina TE Eric Ebron and Notre Dame OL Zack Martin as well. According to Buscaglia, “there is some thought” that Bills may [...] (http://nfltraderumors.co/report-bills-have-serious-interest-in-lsu-wr-odell-beckham/)


http://nfltraderumors.co/category/bills-rumors/

[Buffalogic]

Spiller plus our 1 and our 2 would be a massive steal for Clowney. Not that Houston would do that, but I would be over the moon if they did.

It would be an amazing scenario and I love Spiller, but this would be the best case for us today.

[Night Train]

What I heard in the last hour is Wadkins is the main interest at the Rams #2 slot.

A 2nd this year and a 1st next year. We'll see.

[Buffalogic]

This is going to a fun one. I've literally done no work today. Can't get off these damn forums.

[TacklingDummy]

If Evans and Watkins are gone the Bills will be drafting Beckham.

[CoolBreeze]

This may affect the draft... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/08/report-trade-sending-ryan-mallett-to-texans-may-soon-be-done/

[stuckincincy]

This may affect the draft... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/08/report-trade-sending-ryan-mallett-to-texans-may-soon-be-done/

That would keep HOU out of a qb hunt, it would seem.

[Buffalogic]

That would keep HOU out of a qb hunt, it would seem.
I don't think so. They can't possibly bank on Fitz or Mallet or Keenum.

[stuckincincy]

I don't think so. They can't possibly bank on Fitz or Mallet or Keenum.

Then why bother?

[Buffalogic]

I don't know the answer to that yet!

[Novacane]

If Evans and Watkins are gone the Bills will be drafting Beckham.



No!

[CleveSteve]

Oh my gosh. How does Bill Belichick do this? Does he make all his employees sign some life subservience contract when he hires them? Guy has moles all over the place.

[swiper]

Would you rather me post one that says: "BREAKING: BILLS TO INCLUDE SPILLER IN DEAL FOR #1 PICK".

LOL. That comment was not so much directed at the o.p. as it was to some of the responses.

[Don't Panic]

What I heard in the last hour is Wadkins is the main interest at the Rams #2 slot.

A 2nd this year and a 1st next year. We'll see.

So given what was rumored, did we make out or still give up too much?