FIRST ROUND DRAFT THREAD

[stuckincincy]

6 minutes to go...

[Generalissimus Gibby]

and it begins

[stuckincincy]

It was nice to see them trot out on stage. Big and strong, but still youngsters. I wish them all well.

[Patti120]

Beer up!

[YardRat]

Woo-hoo!

[stuckincincy]

Chuckie is pontificating on ESPN. I loved his TB pressers.

[BillsImpossible]

And the NFL winds begin to swirl in early May.

[BillsImpossible]

duh

[YardRat]

Clowney

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Clowney down, whose next?

[TacklingDummy]

Watkins is next.

[BillsImpossible]

A cabby tells me that Buffalo is talking to the Rams.

[stuckincincy]

Watkins is next.

Clowney must be happy - no personal income tax in TX. :kid:

[paladin warrior]

i bet Clevland get WR Sammy

[YardRat]

Robinson...balls. One OT down.

[paladin warrior]

Yup best OT will be gone in the 1st round

[YardRat]

BORTLES! Nice pick for Jax...

[cookie G]

Bortles to the Jags..

Blake
Blain (Blane?)

We'll see if its an improvement.

[stuckincincy]

Naysayers...

[paladin warrior]

yeah good pick Jaq.. i like that

[Fixxxer]

wow, the Jags are clueless.

[TacklingDummy]

Stupid pick.

[cookie G]

Bills Trade!!!!

[YardRat]

OH NO!!!

[Crisis]

we just traded up to the browns pick?

[TacklingDummy]

Bills get Watkins.

[lightningbolt444]

Mack or Watkins?

[cookie G]

Watkins or Matthews?

[Cleve]

Buffalo NEXT! They traded for Cleveland's pick!!!

[Mad Max]

here we go...don't duck it up!

[paladin warrior]

let Hope Bills Pick OT Jake Mattew

[BillsImpossible]

BROWNS TRADE PICK TO BILLS

[TacklingDummy]

Too bad they don't have a QB to get him the ball.

[SpikedLemonade]

Mack is my guess.

[TacklingDummy]

Manziel please.

[Oaf]

MACK!!

[DunkCityFan]

Go Bills!

[TacklingDummy]

Wow the Bills just got raped.

[cookie G]

and the winner is....


Watkins!!

[Mike]

Great player
Not an extremely expensive trade
But have up a lot

[Don't Panic]

1st and 4th next year. Not bad if we have a good year.

[Cleve]

A questionable QB at best - your big need is WR. LOL What a joke

[TacklingDummy]

Wow 2 first round picks for a WR who's going to be a bust with our QB situation.

Is Ralph still alive?

[The Jokeman]

HATE IT!

[cookie G]

BTW..that has Russ Brandon all over it...

A Watkins jersey outsells a Matthews jersey.

[paladin warrior]

:dance3::bf1::bf1::dance3::dance3:

[malvado78]

Wow the Bills just got raped.
What are you talking about? I love the Mack trade up!!! Except oh wait they didnt take him.

[Mad Max]

Game changer...It works for me!

[Don't Panic]

That is ballsy. The Dougs just put their future on the line. Love the kid but... wow. Just wow.

[Fixxxer]

Pump/power fist by Brandon in the war room.

[DunkCityFan]

Really? 2 1st for a wide receiver? He better be special.

[Mike]

Extremely deep WR draft class
Great player but giving up a 1st next year ....
EJ better pan out

[Cleve]

Wow 2 first round picks for a WR who's going to be a bust with our QB situation.

Is Ralph still alive?


No, but his incompetent staff is.

[Don't Panic]

First takes...

All in on Manuel... loaded at WR now... who is our RT...

[DunkCityFan]

We got one of the elite players though. Still not sure...

[Cleve]

Bills doubled down on EJ Manuele. I don't think it's wise.

[BillsImpossible]

I love this move.

The Bills just gave EJ Manuel the BEST offensive weapon in the entire draft.

[Don't Panic]

How long til Graham gets cut?

[Cleve]

I love this move.

The Bills just gave EJ Manuel the BEST offensive weapon in the entire draft.

And they gave J.P. Loseman, Terrell Owens. That worked well.

[Prov401]

What's with this 2 firsts?.. we gave them next year's first and fourth. We swapped firsts this year.

[Don't Panic]

Mike Evans must be a head case... I thought he had the better future.

[TacklingDummy]

The Bills just gave EJ Manuel the BEST offensive weapon in the entire draft.so, won't mean nothing with EJ throwing him the ball.

[BillsImpossible]

Bills doubled down on EJ Manuele. I don't think it's wise.

Manuel just got a huge boost of confidence.

If you were EJ, what would you think?

[BillsImpossible]

What's with this 2 firsts?.. we gave them next year's first and fourth. We swapped firsts this year.

I think that is a great trade.

[stuckincincy]

Mack goes at #5 to OAK. Lucky guy.

[Patti120]

Well lets just hope ej doesn't totally suck or get hurt every other game bc we don't have a 1st round pick for QB next year.

[paladin warrior]

Let hope bills pick in 2nd round T.E or OT

[Cleve]

Manuel just got a huge boost of confidence.

If you were EJ, what would you think?

I don't know that his attitude was ever an issue. This pick doesn't change the many real issues with EJ Manuel that were highlighted in his draft report, and which we've seen on the field. Not to mention the durability question.

I still think of him as Bumblin' Buddy Nix's last mistake.

[stuckincincy]

"Sammy Watkins | WR, Clemson They need an explosive playmaker, and I like Watkins. But moving up can be risky. Does he put them over the top? They gave up too much."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker

[Mad Max]

Not a big believer in EJ, but I know we weren't going to be giving up on him (if he fails) until 2 more season. So the clocks running on him with all these weapons. If he succeeds perfect! If he fails we get his replacement in 2016. Therefore next years 2015 1st round pick wasn't crucial

[TacklingDummy]

Move over Mike Williams and Maybin, there's another passenger coming on the bus.

[stuckincincy]

OT Jake Matthews #6 to ATL.

[Patti120]

Need to get a rt now. Should hopefully be able to grab someone with the next pick. I have no clue who though.

[Prov401]

I think that is a great trade.

No, I totally agree. I just don't get why people are saying we gave away two firsts for the pick. All we did is give our 1st and 4th in 2015 to the Browns. We didn't lose our 2014 1st round pick. We just selected Watkins with our 2014 pick.

I'm happy with the move.

[Cleve]

Well lets just hope ej doesn't totally suck or get hurt every other game bc we don't have a 1st round pick for QB next year.

Yup. There is that. And DRAFTING a quality "franchise" QB is the proven formula for success in the league, too! I didn't like the Manuel pick when Nix made it, and I was liking it less after what I saw last season. It's not like I'm the only one thinking that way either.

[BillsImpossible]

Sammy Watkins would have been gone by 9 if the Bills didn't give up next year's 1st rounder.

If the Bills make the playoffs, their 1st rounder will be worth the 20th-32nd pick of the 2015 NFL Draft.

I like those odds.

[cookie G]

In the least surprising pick of the draft so far, the Falcons get Matthews.

[Mad Max]

You're comparing Watkins with Maybust and doughboy? Seriously?

[stuckincincy]

WR Evans to TB at #7.

[Cleve]

Move over Mike Williams and Maybin, there's another passenger coming on the bus.

Well, if he doesn't end up with good stats, I don't think it will necessarily be his fault. I'll only blame him if he drops beautiful spirals plopped into his breadbasket week after week.

No one can catch the ball if it isn't thrown to them. Or thrown well.

[BillsImpossible]

"Sammy Watkins | WR, Clemson They need an explosive playmaker, and I like Watkins. But moving up can be risky. Does he put them over the top? They gave up too much."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker

Too much?! They gave up next year's first round draft pick. If the Bills make the playoffs and win a game or two, that pick will be worth the 24th or 25th pick at best.

4th round pick?

Oh no!

[paladin warrior]

I hope No one pick T.E in the 1st round

[BLeonard]

If the Bills make the playoffs, their 1st rounder will be worth the 20th-32nd pick of the 2015 NFL Draft.

I like those odds.

The past 14 years would like a word with you and your odds...

-Bill

[stuckincincy]

Too much?! They gave up next year's first round draft pick. If the Bills make the playoffs and win a game or two, that pick will be worth the 24th or 25th pick at best.

4th round pick?

Oh no!

If Watkins can turn around a 6 -10 club on the playoff outs for 14 years, he must be able to fart stardust.

[Cleve]

The past 14 years would like a word with you and your odds...

-Bill

LOL!!!!!!

[Don't Panic]

Johnny time...

[BLeonard]

If the Bills make the playoffs and win a game or two, that pick will be worth the 24th or 25th pick at best.

...And, if they don't, it could very well be a top 10 pick, yet again...

We've all be playing the "If the Bills make the playoffs" game for 14 years now... At this point, I'd be happy with "in the hunt after Thanksgiving."

-Bill

[TacklingDummy]

Too much?! They gave up next year's first round draft pick. If the Bills make the playoffs and win a game or two, that pick will be worth the 24th or 25th pick at best.

4th round pick?

Oh no!How many years has it been since the last playoff appearance?

[Don't Panic]

You gotta take the mentality that this guy is going to put you over the top... its ballsy instead of "safe" (Whitner, Maybin, etc.). Whaley is thinking this won't be much of a price to pay.

[stuckincincy]

Brownies select CB Justin Gilbert at #8. That's a surprise, to me.

[Don't Panic]

That's a terrible trade by Cleveland. Why trade up one spot? The team giving up te pick obviously doesn't want the same guy as you or they never would have given up the pick in the first place.

[ParanoidAndroid]

The Browns took Gilbert. Glad that wasn't us.

[TacklingDummy]

Poetic justice would be the Bills sucking so much next year that Cleveland gets the 1st overall pick.

[cookie G]

Cleveland

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[HAMMER]

If he is one of those "once in a decade", top tier players as he has been described, it will be worth the cost.

They got the most explosive playmaker in the draft. We need points badly this year with Manning, Rivers, Brady, Bradford, Rodgers and Cutler on the schedule.

They kept the rest of this draft intact in the deepest draft in many years. Next up.. Morgan Moses/OT/Virginia.......hopefully!

[The Jokeman]

Cleveland

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
and that's why they got chosen over the Bills to be in that movie. Say what you want as a Bills fan but the Browns are a worse run organization.

[stuckincincy]

MIN grabs LB Anthony Carr at #9.

[BLeonard]

They got the most explosive playmaker in the draft

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't people say the same thing when the Bills took Spiller...? Now, half of the board is ready to trade him away.

-Bill

[The Jokeman]

MIN grabs LB Anthony Barr at #9.

Fixed it for you.

[stuckincincy]

DET takes TE Eric Ebron at #10.

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Fixed it for you.

Thanks! Beer #8 kicked in!

[cookie G]

and that's why they got chosen over the Bills to be in that movie. Say what you want as a Bills fan but the Browns are a worse run organization.

In the misery loves company category...they are good bedfellows.

Eh..the Watkins trade is as much of a gamble as it is incompetence. I might not like it, but I can't say I hate it totally.

[TacklingDummy]

Eh..the Watkins trade is as much of a gamble as it is incompetence. I might not like it, but I can't say I hate it totally.

I'd love it if we had Peyton Manning as our QB or any other competent QB. With The Bills QB mess this pick has bust written all over it.

[stuckincincy]

In the least surprising pick of the draft so far, the Falcons get Matthews.

If a corporation like McDonalds or Wal-Mart owned a team, after a couple of years of adjustment, they would never be out of the money.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Sheesh. Ya think the Titans are set at O-line?

[stuckincincy]

OT Lewan goes to TEN at #11.

[The Jokeman]

In the misery loves company category...they are good bedfellows.

Eh..the Watkins trade is as much of a gamble as it is incompetence. I might not like it, but I can't say I hate it totally.

I just don't think we needed to gamble. Yet I'll admit I'm not as sold on Watkins as many here are. I just don't see why people think he's an elite talent? He's an above average WR but doesn't fit the mold of what we were lacking.

[Cleve]

I will say one thing - Taylor Lewan's mother (I would assume that's his mom he was hugging) is a babe!!! Dayum! :nod:

[BLeonard]

Quick note for anyone that doesn't know... Sammy Watkins' agent is Eugene Parker... So, yeah...

-Bill

[stuckincincy]

Gints take WR Beckham.

[Cleve]

Johnny Football getting passed over so far. Nobody wants to gamble on a little QB.

[stuckincincy]

STL takes DT Donald. Still no Manziel sighting.

[stuckincincy]

CHI goes CB with Kyle Fuller. That's a surprise to me.

[stuckincincy]

PIT take OLB Shazier. Good pick IMO.

[cookie G]

I'd love it if we had Peyton Manning as our QB or any other competent QB. With The Bills QB mess this pick has bust written all over it.

It worse in that, if it fails, you are basically stuck with EJ for another 2 years.

I was never endeared to Losman, I thought Edwards was a sham from his rookie year onward..

I don't feel that way with Manuel. I don't know if he's going to make a breakthrough, but I don't know if I double down on him (like someone else said)...

If I were going to gamble..I'd have just as soon gambled with Johnny Football..which is actually a hedge.

[ParanoidAndroid]

The Rams really helped themselves today. Wow.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Hmmm... that's a lot earlier for Shazier than I thought.

[stuckincincy]

The Rams really helped themselves today. Wow.

Sure did...

[cookie G]

I just don't think we needed to gamble. Yet I'll admit I'm not as sold on Watkins as many here are. I just don't see why people think he's an elite talent? He's an above average WR but doesn't fit the mold of what we were lacking.

I love him as a receiver its a bad analogy, but I think of him as a Hines Ward with 4.3 speed. Love watching him knock a CB on his ass and then run for another 30 yards

...I just don't think the WR's were the problem last year. There's only one football to go around..

[stuckincincy]

DAL takes OL Zack Martin.

[Cleve]

Jerry Jones showing he's still hanging tough with Tony Romo by passing on Manziel. Seems kind of dumb with Romo approaching 35 years of age, but whatever. I hate the Cowboys

[paladin warrior]

NOOO zack Martin is gone

[The Jokeman]

Jerry Jones showing he's still hanging tough with Tony Romo by passing on Manziel. Seems kind of dumb with Romo approaching 35 years of age, but whatever. I hate the Cowboys

Or maybe Jones doesn't feel that Manziel is an NFL QB like every other team that's drafted before him may fill. It wouldn't shock me to see Manziel fall to Cleveland but some reports earlier today feel he won't be drafted today at all.

[SpikedLemonade]

Gints take WR Beckham.

Hottest mother from the red carpet.

[stuckincincy]

ILB Mosely to BAL.

[Cleve]

Or maybe Jones doesn't feel that Manziel is an NFL QB like every other team that's drafted before him may fill. It wouldn't shock me to see Manziel fall to Cleveland but some reports earlier today feel he won't be drafted today at all.

There is that. I think I'd rather have Manziel though than, say, EJ Manuel.

[stuckincincy]

Jets take S Calvin Pryor. So much for Ha-Ha...

[ParanoidAndroid]

Calvin Pryor = not scary

[stuckincincy]

Calvin Pryor = not scary

L'ville is in my area - seen him play a lot. You?

[stuckincincy]

OT Jawaun James to MIA.

[ParanoidAndroid]

There are few safeties that are scary. He isn't one of them.

[BLeonard]

Saints move up to #20.... Could they be looking QB...?

-Bill

[Don't Panic]

So to all the Manziel>Manuel folks... no concern that he isn't getting picked in the top 20?

[TacklingDummy]

Saints move up to #20.... Could they be looking QB...?

-Bill

WR.

[stuckincincy]

There are few safeties that are scary. He isn't one of them.

Odd of you to say. With all this spread offense going on, the S position has regained some stature.

What safeties do you consider scary, for whatever that means.

[stuckincincy]

WR.

NO gets speed burner Brandin Cooks.

[TacklingDummy]

WR.

Right again.

$100 Cooks has a better year than Watkins.

[notacon]

The Bills blow another draft.

[YardRat]

Miami boned us. If we can't snag Moses in the second, we're not getting a starting RT in this draft, and that's a fail.

[notacon]

Oh...and they just blew next year's draft too.

[stuckincincy]

Right again.

$100 Cooks has a better year than Watkins.

No bet.

[stuckincincy]

GB takes Ha-Ha.

[Turf]

Who the **** names their kid Haha. LOL.

[TacklingDummy]

Time to trade up again and take Johnny Football.

[stuckincincy]

Who the **** names their kid Haha. LOL.

It's a nickname. His first name is Hasean.

[Mace]

I don't know if it was previously mentioned, but I think when the night is over, Roger Goodell will go home, order a pizza, blast some rockabilly and drink a quart of gin.

[Don't Panic]

Here's Johnny?

[TacklingDummy]

I don't know if it was previously mentioned, but I think when the night is over, Roger Goodell will go home, order a pizza, blast some rockabilly and drink a quart of gin.
And count his $30 million.

[TacklingDummy]

Here's Johnny?
JF I'd going 26, 27, or 33.

[stuckincincy]

CLE moves up and picks the Snot.

[BLeonard]

Browns just traded up 4 spots (1 less than we jumped) and only gave up a 3rd Rounder and just took Manziel...

-Bill

[TacklingDummy]

Cleveland draft grade is A+.

Best CB in the draft, best QB in the draft, and raped the Bills for their 1st round pick next year.

[cookie G]

Time to trade up again and take Johnny Football.

Too late.

[Turf]

The Browns have the ugliest uniforms.

[Mace]

Was kind of fun seeing him picked.

[Turf]

It's a nickname. His first name is Hasean.


The media is more fickle than I imagined.

[paladin warrior]

Pls don't let Freakin Patriots take T.E

[Don't Panic]

Here's the thing about Manziel... he's tough as ****, game-wise and off the field. He just took a huge snub and turned into a "its my time" moment. I'm not so sure he's going to fail.

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Cleveland draft grade is A+.

Best CB in the draft, best QB in the draft, and raped the Bills for their 1st round pick next year.

Dennard is the best CB in the draft.

[stuckincincy]

Cleveland draft grade is A+.

Best CB in the draft, best QB in the draft, and raped the Bills for their 1st round pick next year.

I'm not sure Gilbert was the best CB pick for them.

[TacklingDummy]

Dennard is the best CB in the draft.
And yet he still sits on the board. I won't be surprised he's drafted in the 2nd.

[stuckincincy]

KC selects tweener Dee Ford. Yikes - they lost 3 starters off their OL in FA this year.

[SpikedLemonade]

Why don't we hedge the EJ bet and grab a QB in the late 1st or early 2nd?

Only 2 off the board thus far.

[TacklingDummy]

Why did Cleveland trade up for JF? He would have been there at 26.

[stuckincincy]

CIN picks CB Dennard. That couldn't have worked out better for them. Corner back was a need, with aging Terence Newman and PacMan, near-bust Dre Kirkpatrick, and Leon Hall coming off of a 2nd achilles tear. CIN plays a lot of man coverage, and Dennard fills the bill. Coach-for-life Marvin Lewis must be rubbing his foreparts together.

[stuckincincy]

SD opts for CB Jason Verrett. Nice pick for them.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Browns just traded up 4 spots (1 less than we jumped) and only gave up a 3rd Rounder and just took Manziel...

-Bill

And? Are you saying that moving from 22 to 26 is approximately equivalent to moving from 9 to 4?

[stuckincincy]

And yet he still sits on the board. I won't be surprised he's drafted in the 2nd.

Missed that one.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Why don't we hedge the EJ bet and grab a QB in the late 1st or early 2nd?

Only 2 off the board thus far.

I'm thinking Tajh Boyd on day 3.

[TacklingDummy]

Thank you Buffalo.

Now I don't have to waste part of my life watching next years draft or looking at mock drafts.

[stuckincincy]

DE Marcus Smith to PHI.

[BLeonard]

And? Are you saying that moving from 22 to 26 is approximately equivalent to moving from 9 to 4?

No, but I'd rather have traded selections this year, as opposed to next year, if they were hellbent on moving up...

Last 2 times the Bills gave up future #1 selections were for Rob Johnson and JP Losman, FWIW...

-Bill

[TacklingDummy]

How about Bridgewater in the 2nd?

[stuckincincy]

S Deone Buchannon to AZ. That's the 3rd safety selected.

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No, but I'd rather have traded selections this year, as opposed to next year, if they were hellbent on moving up...

Last 2 times the Bills gave up future #1 selections were for Rob Johnson and JP Losman, FWIW...

-Bill

I don't recall - what did they have to fork over to select John McCargo?

[stuckincincy]

WR Kelvin Benjamin to CAR.

[TacklingDummy]

I'd rather have Benjamin at 11.

[stuckincincy]

The Nemesis grabs DT Dominique Easley.

[paladin warrior]

:lol: Patriots suck

[stuckincincy]

SF take the 4th safety to be picked in the 1st round - Jimmie Ward.

[paladin warrior]

There are 4 best T.E left and some good OT left and LB too

[stuckincincy]

DEN takes CB Bradley Roby. Hope the team has a good stock of diapers and crying towels...

[paladin warrior]

and OG

[stuckincincy]

Yup.

[Mad Max]

Derek Carr he gone...

[stuckincincy]

MIN moves up and selects QB Bridgewater.

[Mad Max]

that works too

[BLeonard]

I don't recall - what did they have to fork over to select John McCargo?

The Bills gave up their pick at 42 and their second third rounder at 73 to get up to 26: http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/525874.html

Not really bad, to give a 2nd and a 3rd to move back into the 1st round... Bad choice of player, though... Especially since that was they same year they took Whitner over Ngata.

-Bill

[stuckincincy]

The Bills gave up their pick at 42 and their second third rounder at 73 to get up to 26: http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/525874.html

Not really bad, to give a 2nd and a 3rd to move back into the 1st round... Bad choice of player, though... Especially since that was they same year they took Whitner over Ngata.

-Bill

Thanks for the info. I couldn't recall the details. McCargo...1 start in 6 years. Ugh:

[Kenny]

The Bills gave up their pick at 42 and their second third rounder at 73 to get up to 26: http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/525874.html

Not really bad, to give a 2nd and a 3rd to move back into the 1st round... Bad choice of player, though... Especially since that was they same year they took Whitner over Ngata.


-Bill

Yup... I think everyone thought we were going after Mangold with the move.... first Whitner over Ngata, then McCargo over Mangold!

[ParanoidAndroid]

The Bills will be absolutely kicking themselves if Lee is somehow still there when they pick tomorrow.

[Mace]

I don't know if it was previously mentioned, but I think when the night is over, Roger Goodell will go home, order a pizza, blast some rockabilly and drink a quart of gin.

Mayock goes home, chugs a quart of energy drink, snorts some ground coffee, eats a jalapeno casserole of jalapenos held together with hot sauce, works the heavy bag furiously for 30 minutes to work it off, drinks a pot of coffee, watches some UFC, then sleeps for 15 minutes to start another day, meticulously recopying his notes by hand with a pencil.