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  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71601

    #16
    Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

    Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
    Problem is, the Bills wouldn't be able to get the "next guy" until 2016... I'm about betting that's where OP's 2 years is coming from.

    -Bill
    there could be qb's from FA'cy.
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    • jimmifli
      Registered User
      • Nov 2006
      • 7827

      #17
      Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

      At least we're all in.

      IF this blows up and EJ ****s the bed, next season we get even worse, maybe with a scrub QB. Rock ****ing bottom. And a good chance at top pick in 2016.

      I like it better than being safe. Hedging your bets is for pussies.

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      • BLeonard
        BoB Sabermetrician
        • Jan 2003
        • 4625

        #18
        Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

        Originally posted by Scumbag College View Post
        a 5 yard dump off could turn into a 50 yard run and catch with those guys.
        Too bad that Trent Edwards is in Oakland, huh...?

        -Bill

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101300

          #19
          Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

          Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
          Why is everybody assuming there's no way a QB drops to us in Round 2 next year if necessary?
          Because a) second round starting QB's are rare, and b) when they do fall to us,the FO passes.
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          • BLeonard
            BoB Sabermetrician
            • Jan 2003
            • 4625

            #20
            Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

            Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
            there could be qb's from FA'cy.
            Have you seen the QB's that the Bills have picked up in Free Agency in recent years...? Might as well go all Wildcat and have Fred Jackson at QB...

            -Bill

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            • TacklingDummy
              Unreachable Douche
              • Jul 2002
              • 71725

              #21
              Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

              Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
              Too bad that Trent Edwards is in Oakland, huh...?

              -Bill
              Why, KneeJ made Captain Checkdown look like he was throwing bombs.

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              • The Jokeman
                Registered User
                • Dec 2003
                • 9995

                #22
                Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                Williams was for a 6th...

                I said in another thread that I normally agree with getting O-Line help in the early rounds, but it's obvious that the Bills aren't going to retain O-Linemen even when they do draft them in the early rounds (Levitre). Hell, they couldn't even be bothered to sign Levitre's backup, Rinehart...

                If they aren't gonna retain them (while fans are always saying that they "cost too much") there's no sense in drafting them in the early rounds, IMO.

                -Bill
                Unless you have to replace the one you lose. See what we've done with RBs since drafting Travis Henry.

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                • BuffaloRedleg
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1270

                  #23
                  Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                  Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
                  Why is everybody assuming there's no way a QB drops to us in Round 2 next year if necessary?
                  This is something I've been tossing around and it exemplifies the frustration vs positivity that exists in my brain with this team.

                  My positive side says next year if EJ doesn't work out we can draft a guy who has a medium ceiling and have all the tools around him in place. We also could (and should) take Aaron Murray/ Metterburger later. That would make me happier. I'm also pretty excited about having arguably the most complete player in the draft, can't argue with that. ANd if EJ does work out holy **** that is a potent offense AND defense.

                  The negative side just can't get over that 1st round pick. I mean, if EJ gets injured or stinks (which lets face it, can you blame a Bills fan for being wired this way?) we could be sacrificing a top 5 pick. We could be sacrificing the #1 pick in the draft hypothetically! That's just a too much.

                  We are all wired to be cautious so you can't blame us for being concerned about that #1 next year. We've all seen this movie before.

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                  • ICRockets
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 12676

                    #24
                    Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    Because a) second round starting QB's are rare, and b) when they do fall to us,the FO passes.
                    a) not as rare as they used to be. Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Drew Brees, Geno Smith, Andy Dalton, Matt Schaub, Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles....none of them were 1st round picks. Brady/Wilson/Kaep/Brees/Dalton/Foles were 6 of the top QBs in the league last year.

                    b) utterly, completely, incomprehensibly irrelevant. Aside from Russ Brandon, the entire rest of this front office was not in charge until last season, wherein we drafted a QB in the first round. Not to mention, if we are in a position to be needing a QB next season we will most likely have a completely new front office.

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                    • BLeonard
                      BoB Sabermetrician
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4625

                      #25
                      Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                      Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                      Unless you have to replace the one you lose. See what we've done with RBs since drafting Travis Henry.
                      Well, they lost Levitre because they didn't want to pay him... They lost Rinehart because, apparently, they didn't want to pay him either.

                      Why draft a guy in the early rounds, if you're never gonna pay players at that position? If they'd have paid a draft pick that turned out to be a good one now and again, we wouldn't have to have the same discussion about needing help on the offensive line EVERY DAMN YEAR.

                      -Bill

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                      • ICRockets
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 12676

                        #26
                        Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                        Originally posted by The last buffalo fan View Post
                        How about a good prospect this year?
                        Yep, late round guys like Aaron Murray or Zach Mettenburger are totally viable options in the 5th or 7th round.

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                        • BLeonard
                          BoB Sabermetrician
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4625

                          #27
                          Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                          Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
                          a) not as rare as they used to be. Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Drew Brees, Geno Smith, Andy Dalton, Matt Schaub, Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles....none of them were 1st round picks. Brady/Wilson/Kaep/Brees/Dalton/Foles were 6 of the top QBs in the league last year.
                          Doesn't Russell Wilson prove OP's point, though...? He was there in Rd 3, when the Bills traded up for TJ Graham... He would have still been there had the Bills stayed put at 71, as Wilson wasn't picked until 75... Foles went at 88

                          Wilson has a Super Bowl ring, while Graham might not even make the team, pending on how the WR picture shakes out.

                          Perfect example, IMO: Wilson fell to the Bills, the Bills passed. Hell, the Bills even traded up and still didn't draft him. Same thing with Foles.

                          -Bill
                          Last edited by BLeonard; 05-08-2014, 10:20 PM.

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101300

                            #28
                            Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                            Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
                            a) not as rare as they used to be. Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Drew Brees, Geno Smith, Andy Dalton, Matt Schaub, Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles....none of them were 1st round picks. Brady/Wilson/Kaep/Brees/Dalton/Foles were 6 of the top QBs in the league last year.

                            b) utterly, completely, incomprehensibly irrelevant. Aside from Russ Brandon, the entire rest of this front office was not in charge until last season, wherein we drafted a QB in the first round. Not to mention, if we are in a position to be needing a QB next season we will most likely have a completely new front office.
                            Whaley was here. He wasn't in charge but he was part of the process. And let's face it- Whaley mortgaging the future with his very first draft pick isn't exactly reason for confidence.
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                            • ICRockets
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 12676

                              #29
                              Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              Whaley was here. He wasn't in charge but he was part of the process. And let's face it- Whaley mortgaging the future with his very first draft pick isn't exactly reason for confidence.
                              You stopped saying relevant words after that.

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                              • ICRockets
                                Legendary Zoner
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 12676

                                #30
                                Re: This team has spent 6 draft picks over 3 drafts on WR

                                Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                                Doesn't Russell Wilson prove OP's point, though...? He was there in Rd 3, when the Bills traded up for TJ Graham... He would have still been there had the Bills stayed put at 71, as Wilson wasn't picked until 75... Foles went at 88

                                Wilson has a Super Bowl ring, while Graham might not even make the team, pending on how the WR picture shakes out.

                                Perfect example, IMO: Wilson fell to the Bills, the Bills passed. Hell, the Bills even traded up and still didn't draft him. Same thing with Foles.

                                -Bill
                                Doesn't prove his point at all, seeing as my point is that none of the people who drafted EJ Manuel and Sammy Watkins had control over the Bills when they passed on Russell Wilson.

                                Doug Whaley and Doug Marrone MIGHT have screwed the pooch in their first 2 years with real, genuine influence over the Bills player personnel. But believing they did so based predominantly on the performance of their predecessors is irrational and devoid of logic.

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