SIAP: Bills expected to try and trade Stevie Johnson

[psubills62]

http://www.wgr550.com/10-Bills-related-thoughts-after-Day-1/9034669?pid=400564


...if the Bills went with a receiver in the first round, veteran wideout Stevie Johnson likely goes on the trading block according to a league source. The logic is very simple behind it: the Bills now have five receivers on their roster that demand playing time on offense. Four of those players were brought in by the current general manager and coaching staff, and only one has an astronomical cap hit for 2014 comparatively speaking. Johnson is signed for the next three seasons with cap hits of $8.5 million (2014), $8.85 million (2015) and $8.95 million (2016). Combine that with the clashing personalities of Johnson and head coach Doug Marrone, and it all adds up to the Bills doing what they can to try and move Johnson. The other casualty of the Watkins pick? Former third-round pick T.J. Graham, who was on thin ice even before they selected the Clemson wideout. It’s put up or shut up time in training camp for Graham on both offense and special teams.

[Buffalogic]

Great fit in San Fran.

[jimmifli]

That's a new twist on our usual strategy of creating new unnecessary holes and then filling them. Now we are filling the hole before we created it. Novel.

[The Jokeman]

Great fit in San Fran.

Do the 49ers have the cap room? And would he want to play there with Boldin and Crabtree already there? Toss in Vernon Davis.

[Mahdi]

Stevie would be awesome slotted between Watkins and Woods. Why not keep the unit strong? Why do we always have to subtract talent?

[The Jokeman]

Stevie would be awesome slotted between Watkins and Woods. Why not keep the unit strong? Why do we always have to subtract talent?

Cuz the Bills are the proverbial dog chasing it's own tail team.

[Turf]

Maybe we can trade him for a tackle.

[DraftBoy]

Stevie would be awesome slotted between Watkins and Woods. Why not keep the unit strong? Why do we always have to subtract talent?

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.

[DynaPaul]

I'd keep him for this year and if he doesn't step it up and start taking direction I'd try to move him then. At least give him another shot.

[DBrown77]

He would definitely need to restructure that contract for any trade. We have the cap room and our WR's are constantly injured. We need to keep him at least this year imo.

[DraftBoy]

NFL Network Around The League is predicting the trade will be to Carolina for a 4th;
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000348578/article/trade-predictions-for-2014-nfl-draft-weekend?campaign=Twitter_atl

[psubills62]

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.
I'd been thinking Johnson and Woods (and IMO, Williams) are a bit redundant. Johnson is good, possibly very good, but he's no longer necessary and they should get value for him while they can. Just not sure how much other teams might want him with that contract/cap hit.

[Forward_Lateral]

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.

The Bills know what they have in Stevie. A guy with great potential, that drops balls at crucial points of games. That being said, I would not cry if they kept Stevie, he has a God given ability to get open and does make huge plays for the team as well


I guess I'm indifferent. If they keep him, good, if they trade him, ok.

[Mahdi]

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.

He's a better player than Woods. And in my scenario all 3 are on the field so comparing who is better is moot. Im saying Stevie in the slot with Woods and Watkins outside.

Stevie is certainly better than Goodwin or Graham or Williams for that matter. I still think Stevie is a very unique receiver and can help this team.

[DraftBoy]

He's a better player than Woods. And in my scenario all 3 are on the field so comparing who is better is moot. Im saying Stevie in the slot with Woods and Watkins outside.

Stevie is certainly better than Goodwin or Graham or Williams for that matter. I still think Stevie is a very unique receiver and can help this team.

Answer the question, what skill set does he offer that Woods doesn't?

I don't think he's necessarily better than Mike Williams, he's a more consistent player but Williams is a hell of a WR when focused.

[Mahdi]

Answer the question, what skill set does he offer that Woods doesn't?

I don't think he's necessarily better than Mike Williams, he's a more consistent player but Williams is a hell of a WR when focused.

His ability to get open 1 on 1. Stevie has an ability to get open others simply don't have. Woods is more of a route runner specialist.

[DraftBoy]

His ability to get open 1 on 1. Stevie has an ability to get open others simply don't have. Woods is more of a route runner specialist.

Ummm...being a route running specialist gets you open...

[The Jokeman]

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.

Three 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL.

[Forward_Lateral]

Stevie is better than Woods right now. In a season or two, if Woods stays healthy, that won't be the case.

[mysticsoto]

Answer the question, what skill set does he offer that Woods doesn't?

I don't think he's necessarily better than Mike Williams, he's a more consistent player but Williams is a hell of a WR when focused.

Stevie has had games where he showed up shutdown cornerbacks like Revis. I'd hate to see him go and still think he can operate out of the slot position very well. As a matter of fact, his numbers would likely go up giving that he wouldn't be going up against #1 DBs anymore.

Yes, his cap numbers are high for a #2 WR, but getting a 4th for him is useless. With a 4th, you're likely getting a low caliber player...in Stevie, we know what caliber of player we're getting - a decent WR.

[Mahdi]

Ummm...being a route running specialist gets you open...

Not when Revis caliber guys are covering you... Johnson doesnt get shut down by top CBs he's proven that. I would never get rid of a guy that performs against the best.

[HAMMER]

Time for Stevie to go.

[Saratoga Slim]

What does he offer that Woods doesn't? Outside of bad drops, and a tendency to act like an idiot.

Don't forget perpetual groin issues.

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I'd like to see him have a huge year in the slot for us, then trade him next winter for a 2nd or 3rd that we can package to get back into the first if we need to do so.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Not when Revis caliber guys are covering you... Johnson doesnt get shut down by top CBs he's proven that. I would never get rid of a guy that performs against the best.

And guess who just came back into the division.

[GingerP]

Stevie was traded to SF for conditional 4th, can become a 3rd. Not sure the trigger to make it a 3rd.

[Meathead]

Stevie is better than Woods right now. In a season or two, if Woods stays healthy, that won't be the case.

not even. woods passed stevie im last season and would have made that obvious early this year. stevie is still good, woods is just going to be better. and in fact he already is imo

[paladin warrior]

There is a lots WR right now. maybe bills take a other WR in last round.

[HAMMER]

Sayonara Stevie, never liked you're showboating ways or the fact that you blamed God for dropping passes.

[Buffalogic]

Great fit in San Fran.Nailed it.

[The Jokeman]

There is a lots WR right now. maybe bills take a other WR in last round.
We've already "used" a 1st and a 6th on WR when factor in the Mike Williams trade. I can't see drafting another one but then again I never expected us to take Goodwin in the 3rd last year.

[Buffalogic]

Williams is Stevie's replacement not Watkins and Williams is arguably better or on par with Johnson. We gave up a 6th, received a 4th and we upgraded players (Watkins, Williams > Just Stevie)

Why do people get so mad? Think about it first.

[DraftBoy]

Three 1,000 yard seasons in the NFL.

Not a skill set.

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Not when Revis caliber guys are covering you... Johnson doesnt get shut down by top CBs he's proven that. I would never get rid of a guy that performs against the best.

So your basing your entire premise off how he preforms against one player? That's a flimsy plank.

[GingerP]

So your basing your entire premise off how he preforms against one player? That's a flimsy plank.

The top 2 CB in the NFL have been Darrelle Revis and Richard Sherman. Johnson did as well or better than anyone against both those guys.

[paladin warrior]

Need T.E badly

[The Jokeman]

Not a skill set.

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So your basing your entire premise off how he preforms against one player? That's a flimsy plank.

Until Watkins displays that he can live up to his skill set in the NFL I maintain Stevie's a better NFL WR than him.

[paladin warrior]

We've already "used" a 1st and a 6th on WR when factor in the Mike Williams trade. I can't see drafting another one but then again I never expected us to take Goodwin in the 3rd last year.
yeah I don't know why take Goodwin in the 3rd round