Let's poke holes in team's...

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • D'Angelo Vickers
    Regional Manager
    • Mar 2014
    • 67

    Let's poke holes in team's...

    There is a poster I've noticed since I've been on this board who enjoys poking holes (a lot of the time justified, I will say that) in our Buffalo Bills.

    I have been reading some post-draft fodder and I thought I'd create a thread so we can see if there is a perfect team in the NFL, since perfection seems to be required to make the playoffs. I'll start within our division:

    New England Patriots

    Biggest end of year weakness: No explosive offensive weapons outside of Gronkowski, aging d line, no-name linebacking corp outside of Jerrod Mayo, who is recovering from injury.

    Drafted: First round, a smallish D-lineman coming off of a torn ACL, Second round, a backup QB who will never play.

    My take: The gap between the Bills and Pats has never been smaller than it was in 2013. The Pats lost one of their best run stoppers, as he signed with Buffalo. The Patriots are still the favorites to win the divison, because they still have Tom Brady. But how could you not agree, the "gap", if there is still a talent gap, is smaller than ever. (Ever=since 2001)

    New York Jets

    Biggest end of year weakness: No offensive play makers, inferior QB play, questionable coaching, weak at the DB position. (Only Dee Milliner remains)

    Drafted: A free safety in the first round, Calvin Pryor. A tight end in the 2nd, Jase Amaro... A db in the 3rd.

    My take: Vick, Geno, CJ2K, Eric Decker. Anybody scared? Me neither. This team will still be a cluster-**** on offense, and the QB play will be marginal. As far as I can see, worst case scenario is a split with this team.

    Miami Dolphins

    Biggest end of year weakness: Replacing Incognito, Martin, and Jake Long. Also need a running back.

    Drafted: First round, a right tackle who will play guard (replacing Incognito, a wash at best) Jarvis Landry, a smallish WR with speed. (Sound like all their other WR's?)

    My take: The Bills swept the Dolphins last year, giving up multiple sacks and pressures on Tannehill. They then got rid of half of their oline, and are filling the gap with a late round OG/RT tweener. I guess that we aren't the only team with audacity to let a rookie protect their QB?


    This can go on and on, feel free to poke holes in other teams. Why? Because there is no perfect team. I'm sure Seattle was concerned over certain positions last year before the season started. Do I think the Bills are going to the Super Bowl? No. Do I think that playoffs are in play? Yes.

    All teams are counting on rookies in spots. Most teams will have 2-3 rookie starters AT LEAST.

    All teams not named the Broncos, Patriots, Seahawks, Saints, Packers have questions that need to be answered at QB.

    All teams not named Patriots, Saints, Packers, Seahawks, Giants or Steelers have coaches who have NEVER proven the ABILITY to win a Super Bowl as a head coach in the NFL.

    10 teams in the NFL have head coaches that have experience that is equal to or less than our head coach.

    Let's rattle off some more:

    Houston: Biggest need: QB. QB's drafted: 0.

    Carolina: Biggest need: OT. OT's drafted: 0.

    My point, to say that there is some huge talent gap or that the Bills are "nowhere close" to the playoffs is idiotic. Can I guarantee what will happen? Of course not. Nobody can. If any team had the perfect situation to be able to have their player of choice at each and every position, I'd say cancel the season. The Bills are closer than they've been since 1999 and will prove it this year.
    Last edited by D'Angelo Vickers; 05-12-2014, 01:41 PM.
  • D'Angelo Vickers
    Regional Manager
    • Mar 2014
    • 67

    #2
    Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

    Originally posted by DANNY BATTEN POWER View Post
    Rams: Capped a great draft with a publicity stunt that could be divisive in the locker room. Best case scenario is they get a Hard Knocks deal, some free pub, and the support of liberal America behind them.
    Still had to watch their draft pick kiss a guy on TV. Can I say that without getting banned.............for life?

    Comment

    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86283

      #3
      Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

      Nice post.
      YardRat Wall of Fame
      #56 DARRYL TALLEY
      #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

      Comment

      • Bill Cody
        Registered User
        • Sep 2004
        • 11915

        #4
        Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

        Not to be overly simplistic but if we get more out of the QB position this year (and we might) we'll be in the mix. If we don't we won't.

        Comment

        • BuffaloRedleg
          Registered User
          • Aug 2013
          • 1270

          #5
          Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

          You guys will not let this thing rest with Sam.

          The people who hate the attention he is getting are worse than the people who love the attention he's getting.

          You are only making it worse by constantly bringing it up. I can't stress this enough-- it won't go away until the people who "hate" it drop it.

          Comment

          • D'Angelo Vickers
            Regional Manager
            • Mar 2014
            • 67

            #6
            Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

            Can we not talk about Sam? I only responded to a comment.

            The point of my thread is I can point out, at will, problems with every team in the league.

            One thing that can't be measured or detected, but plays a huge role, is chemistry.

            Comment

            • psubills62
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2008
              • 11295

              #7
              Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

              Technically, Houston did draft a QB. But I like the post.
              "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
              - Nicholas Cummings

              Comment

              • D'Angelo Vickers
                Regional Manager
                • Mar 2014
                • 67

                #8
                Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                Originally posted by psubills62 View Post
                Technically, Houston did draft a QB. But I like the post.
                Houston is going to trot Ryan Fitzpatrick out next year. ::hole poked::
                Oakland is either starting a rookie Derek Carr or Matt Shaub. ::hole poked::
                Cleveland will either start Manziel or Hoyer, and won't have their best WR, and didn't draft his replacement ::hole poked::
                Jacksonville with either start Bortles or Chad Henne ::hole poked::

                Comment

                • Buffalogic
                  Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5345

                  #9
                  Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                  Originally posted by DANNY BATTEN POWER View Post
                  Rams: Capped a great draft with a publicity stunt that could be divisive in the locker room. Best case scenario is they get a Hard Knocks deal, some free pub, and the support of liberal America behind them.
                  It was marketing genius to draft him with their final pick. No commitment and they are piling up the jersey sales. Smart financial move.

                  Comment

                  • BuffaloRedleg
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1270

                    #10
                    Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                    Originally posted by DANNY BATTEN POWER View Post
                    To be fair, the thread title talks about poking holes.

                    Sorry...couldn't resist. Last one I promise
                    You are a regular Carlos Mencia.

                    Comment

                    • EDS
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5216

                      #11
                      Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                      Originally posted by D'Angelo Vickers View Post
                      There is a poster I've noticed since I've been on this board who enjoys poking holes (a lot of the time justified, I will say that) in our Buffalo Bills.

                      I have been reading some post-draft fodder and I thought I'd create a thread so we can see if there is a perfect team in the NFL, since perfection seems to be required to make the playoffs. I'll start within our division:

                      New England Patriots

                      Biggest end of year weakness: No explosive offensive weapons outside of Gronkowski, aging d line, no-name linebacking corp outside of Jerrod Mayo, who is recovering from injury.

                      Drafted: First round, a smallish D-lineman coming off of a torn ACL, Second round, a backup QB who will never play.

                      My take: The gap between the Bills and Pats has never been smaller than it was in 2013. The Pats lost one of their best run stoppers, as he signed with Buffalo. The Patriots are still the favorites to win the divison, because they still have Tom Brady. But how could you not agree, the "gap", if there is still a talent gap, is smaller than ever. (Ever=since 2001)

                      New York Jets

                      Biggest end of year weakness: No offensive play makers, inferior QB play, questionable coaching, weak at the DB position. (Only Dee Milliner remains)

                      Drafted: A free safety in the first round, Calvin Pryor. A tight end in the 2nd, Jase Amaro... A db in the 3rd.

                      My take: Vick, Geno, CJ2K, Eric Decker. Anybody scared? Me neither. This team will still be a cluster-**** on offense, and the QB play will be marginal. As far as I can see, worst case scenario is a split with this team.

                      Miami Dolphins

                      Biggest end of year weakness: Replacing Incognito, Martin, and Jake Long. Also need a running back.

                      Drafted: First round, a right tackle who will play guard (replacing Incognito, a wash at best) Jarvis Landry, a smallish WR with speed. (Sound like all their other WR's?)

                      My take: The Bills swept the Dolphins last year, giving up multiple sacks and pressures on Tannehill. They then got rid of half of their oline, and are filling the gap with a late round OG/RT tweener. I guess that we aren't the only team with audacity to let a rookie protect their QB?


                      This can go on and on, feel free to poke holes in other teams. Why? Because there is no perfect team. I'm sure Seattle was concerned over certain positions last year before the season started. Do I think the Bills are going to the Super Bowl? No. Do I think that playoffs are in play? Yes.

                      All teams are counting on rookies in spots. Most teams will have 2-3 rookie starters AT LEAST.

                      All teams not named the Broncos, Patriots, Seahawks, Saints, Packers have questions that need to be answered at QB.

                      All teams not named Patriots, Saints, Packers, Seahawks, Giants or Steelers have coaches who have NEVER proven the ABILITY to win a Super Bowl as a head coach in the NFL.

                      10 teams in the NFL have head coaches that have experience that is equal to or less than our head coach.

                      Let's rattle off some more:

                      Houston: Biggest need: QB. QB's drafted: 0.

                      Carolina: Biggest need: OT. OT's drafted: 0.

                      My point, to say that there is some huge talent gap or that the Bills are "nowhere close" to the playoffs is idiotic. Can I guarantee what will happen? Of course not. Nobody can. If any team had the perfect situation to be able to have their player of choice at each and every position, I'd say cancel the season. The Bills are closer than they've been since 1999 and will prove it this year.
                      NE: Good point on lack of explosive offensive playmakers. That said, they did not have those guys last season and at least some of the rookies they employed last season will likely improve. If nothing else their depth is better. Health of the interior of their DL is key - if healthy they do have lots of talent. As far as the linebackers, they have Mayo, Hightower and Collins at LB, so not sure about the no names statement. At the end of the day, they are still setting themselves up for playing with a lead and forcing opponents to throw against them (hence bulking up on CBs, getting Collins into the line-up to add more speed and taking some flyers on pass rushers (easley and Smith for example).

                      Jets: They were so awful last year on so many fronts (defensive line obviously not included, which is clearly an enormous strength). Can their QB and WR play be worse then last season? Arguably no, and they at least have options this season. Decker and Amaro are better then anything they had at those positions in 2013. Vick is far from great, and Smith was awful last season, but both can be bad in 2014 and it would still be a huge improvement over 2013. On defense, their front 7 is solid but they likely wil be playing lots of young DBs (Milliner, Pryor, etc.) so will have some serious growing pains.

                      Miami: Looks like they drafted two offensive line-man fairly early, in addition to signing free agents Albert and Smith, to go along with holdover Pouncey. That is about as much as you can hope to accomplish in one off-season and likely an improvement over 2013. At running back they did sign Moreno so have made an effort to find a solid move the chains back. Also, Landry is far from a speed receiver, so perhaps you need to revisit that comment.

                      Comment

                      • D'Angelo Vickers
                        Regional Manager
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 67

                        #12
                        Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                        Originally posted by EDS View Post
                        NE: Good point on lack of explosive offensive playmakers. That said, they did not have those guys last season and at least some of the rookies they employed last season will likely improve. If nothing else their depth is better. Health of the interior of their DL is key - if healthy they do have lots of talent. As far as the linebackers, they have Mayo, Hightower and Collins at LB, so not sure about the no names statement. At the end of the day, they are still setting themselves up for playing with a lead and forcing opponents to throw against them (hence bulking up on CBs, getting Collins into the line-up to add more speed and taking some flyers on pass rushers (easley and Smith for example).

                        Jets: They were so awful last year on so many fronts (defensive line obviously not included, which is clearly an enormous strength). Can their QB and WR play be worse then last season? Arguably no, and they at least have options this season. Decker and Amaro are better then anything they had at those positions in 2013. Vick is far from great, and Smith was awful last season, but both can be bad in 2014 and it would still be a huge improvement over 2013. On defense, their front 7 is solid but they likely wil be playing lots of young DBs (Milliner, Pryor, etc.) so will have some serious growing pains.

                        Miami: Looks like they drafted two offensive line-man fairly early, in addition to signing free agents Albert and Smith, to go along with holdover Pouncey. That is about as much as you can hope to accomplish in one off-season and likely an improvement over 2013. At running back they did sign Moreno so have made an effort to find a solid move the chains back. Also, Landry is far from a speed receiver, so perhaps you need to revisit that comment.
                        So how do you rank the AFCE?

                        Comment

                        • Typ0
                          honey pie
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 32593

                          #13
                          Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                          NE is ripe to be plucked this year.

                          Comment

                          • JoeMama
                            Emotion Sickness
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 18191

                            #14
                            Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                            Originally posted by DANNY BATTEN POWER View Post
                            Rams: Capped a great draft with a publicity stunt that could be divisive in the locker room. Best case scenario is they get a Hard Knocks deal, some free pub, and the support of liberal America behind them.
                            Don't worry, black people are demographically the most homophobic people on the planet. If you want this to end badly, maybe you'll get your wish.

                            Their tiny negro brains can't process the word "homophobia" and their big negro lips can't pronounce it correctly.

                            Black people...
                            Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

                            Comment

                            • EDS
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Re: Let's poke holes in team's...

                              Originally posted by D'Angelo Vickers View Post
                              So how do you rank the AFCE?
                              NE and then everybody else.

                              Arguably, out of Miami New York and Buffalo the team with the best QB play will have the best chance of finishing second in the division and possibly getting a wild card. Obviously that changes if Brady goes down with an injury.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X