Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

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  • SpikedLemonade
    • Jun 2024

    #2
    Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

    • The Bills have done a lot right recently but don’t count us as Buffalo sycophants. The move getting Chris Williams to fill the void at left guard (and more particularly, the guaranteed $5.5M) left us slack-jawed. He does have OK games, so maybe in the days of subset scouting they saw his Weeks 2, 5, 8 and 13 games which netted him a +6.7 grade and not the Weeks 1, 9, 14 and 17 outings which amassed a ridiculous -22.1 mark.

    I found the above interesting.

    I don't see Chris Williams as an upgrade.

    Dumb signing.

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    • DesertFox24
      Registered User
      • Jul 2005
      • 2129

      #3
      Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

      Well some things they need to change based on information we now have from the draft.

      1. Manny Lawson is going to be a DE and will rotate with jerry Hughes
      2. Keith Rivers is the other OLB and probably SLB
      3. Not sure Chris Williams wins the LG spot over Unga and Richardson
      4. I would have put EJ as a below average starter not poor starter. He was good in 3 games, average in 3.5 games, and poor in the 3 games

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      • Buffalogic
        Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
        • Feb 2006
        • 5346

        #4
        Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

        I don't think we know what we have with Williams yet. With Marrone being rooted in the Oline, I'll take a wait and see approach. Definitely not going to gripe about them bringing in more linemen and it's not my money they are spending.

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        • DraftBoy
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 107443

          #5
          Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

          Well that was depressing.
          COMING SOON...
          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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          • GingerP
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 1717

            #6
            Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

            They have averaged 6.3 wins a year over the last 10 years. What did you expect, a bunch of superstars?

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            • Lucidvizion
              Surfing on the Edge of Infinity
              • Feb 2005
              • 2673

              #7
              Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

              Lee Smith is better than Scott Chandler? ooooookay.

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              • stuckincincy
                Buffalo Bills Fan
                • Sep 2003
                • 15084

                #8
                Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                Well that was depressing.
                Yellow journalism?
                Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107443

                  #9
                  Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                  Originally posted by GingerP View Post
                  They have averaged 6.3 wins a year over the last 10 years. What did you expect, a bunch of superstars?
                  No, the colors just made me sad.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101343

                    #10
                    Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                    I realize that this is one site's opinion, but they say we only have one elite player and they had to debate if he is truly elite. Ouch.
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                    • IlluminatusUIUC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 8966

                      #11
                      Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                      Did you guys look at the other teams? So far they've done 4: Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Buffalo. Arizona won 11 games in a much harder division then us and were rated with only 26 players of "average" or above. Baltimore is two years removed from a Super Bowl title and has 30. Atlanta had a crap season but were still a dropped TD from the Super Bowl in 2012, and has 26. Buffalo had 31.

                      Players not considered elite: Haloti Ngata, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, Terrell Suggs, and Daryl Washington


                      Billszone 2013 Prediction Contest winner!

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107443

                        #12
                        Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                        Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                        Did you guys look at the other teams? So far they've done 4: Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Buffalo. Arizona won 11 games in a much harder division then us and were rated with only 26 players of "average" or above. Baltimore is two years removed from a Super Bowl title and has 30. Atlanta had a crap season but were still a dropped TD from the Super Bowl in 2012, and has 26. Buffalo had 31.

                        Players not considered elite: Haloti Ngata, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, Terrell Suggs, and Daryl Washington
                        To answer your original question...no.

                        Which says volumes about Kyle Williams being elite.
                        COMING SOON...
                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • jimmifli
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 7827

                          #13
                          Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                          Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                          2. Keith Rivers is the other OLB and probably SLB
                          I think Rivers will be our 2nd LB in our nickel package. Spikes and our SLB come off the field, and Rivers joins Kiko for passing downs. Then our secondary has Graham at FS, Robey at nickel CB, and McKelvin and Gilmour on the outside. All DBs can play man and both LB's can cover. That's a tough defense to pass on.

                          If Rivers is our SLB that makes the substitutions easier, but I don't think he fits that role as well as Hughes or Lawson.

                          But looking at our lack of DEs.... Are we really going to line them up as DEs? I ****ing hope not.

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                          • Dr. Lecter
                            Zero for Zero!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 67946

                            #14
                            Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                            They list Garrison Sanborn as average.

                            Clearly these people are buffoons. He is Elite ++++++
                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                            • The Jokeman
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 9995

                              #15
                              Re: Very Interesting Chart from PFF -- BILLS Starters

                              Originally posted by Lucidvizion View Post
                              Lee Smith is better than Scott Chandler? ooooookay.
                              While Chandler and Smith are both TEs they are different types of TEs. Easily put Smith is a blocking (Y)TE and Chalder is a receiving (H) TE and that's why they graded as such. As a blocking TE Smith is pretty good whereas Chandler as a receiver is considered below average as he's not a game changer or excels at one spot. One would think at 6-7 he's be a great red zone target but he just hasn't become one. For more info about scouting TEs see http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...Receivers.html

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