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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    Best QB on Bills Roster

    From what I have seen, read, & heard thus far, there is a good chance that EJ isn't even substantially the best QB on the Bills.

    For the most part EJ has been... well, EJ. One great throw, a couple of ok throws , one wild throw & of course one throw in the arms of a defender. His accuracy, timing, progressions, reading defenses are still second rate.

    The other 2 QB: Jeff Tuel & Thad Lewis - who was our best performing QB last year- are having a competition of their own and Jeff has taken the lead.

    Jeff Tuel
    He struggled in a few starts last season, but I never understood why Bills fans dogged him (an un-drafted rookie FA) while defending similarly bad play from EJ (1st rounder & 1st QB taken in draft). Somehow, this didn't add up, plus there were many things in Tuel's game that are clearly lacking in EJs.


    Tuel's Advantages:

    Accuracy: he is far more accurate and has much better ball placement than EJ.

    Down Field: I remember his 50yrd TD bomb to Goodwin. It was exciting and longest TD for this Bills up to that point! He came in, and instantly stretched the field, something EJ could not do with his superior arm strength.

    Reading Defenses: He spread the ball around and moved the chains. Sure he made mistakes, has bad plays and turnovers; however, he showed positives that were absent in EJ's game.

    In my opinion, EJ is missing some very key and fundamental elements to his game and as a result his career may go in the way of Kevin Kolb or JP Lossman; in other words he may not even be backup material. Tuel on the other hand will at least make for a decent backup, a replica of our latest decent QB: Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jake Delohme.

    *** Hopefully I'm wrong and EJ becomes Warren Moon 2.0 and Tuel becomes Brady 3.0 and we trade one of them for like 6 picks... But chances are..,
    Please Make Sense
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

    Did you learn English from commercials?

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    • Swiper
      Registered User
      • Sep 2010
      • 33105

      #3
      Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

      I like Tuel. I hate Manuel. But, even I have a hard time justifying Tuel be elevated above the 16th overall pick from 2013 at this point. Manuel will dig his own grave. But Tuel is not likely to be the long-term QB solution. He's a back-up at best. He's not the next Tom Brady. This issue will be the albatross around Whaley's neck.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

        Timing is everything



        I'm going to 2 practices this week and a couple more next week. We'll see how much Manuel has progressed. I'm glad we have Tuel around and also wish to observe his development. I root for the jersey and hope either can step forward and play solid ball.

        I would like to know that if Manuel goes down, we have an alternative in Tuel. I don't see that in Lewis, who despite being a gamer turns the ball over far too much.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • don137
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 7720

          #5
          Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

          From what I heard on the John Murphy show EJ looked great in practice Monday evening going through his progressions and made several nice throws.

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          • Historian
            2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
            • Dec 2002
            • 61715

            #6
            Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

            I wouldn't use John Murphy as a credible source, Don. He has a financial stake in the organization.

            Just from what I have read, essentially tweets from the D and C and BEN writers at camp, (as well as the talking heads on tv) most say EJ has looked bad, but his saving grace is that Watkins is catching everything thrown to his side of the field, no matter how far off it is.

            I'm really hoping something clicks inside the guys head...and soon.

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            • BertSquirtgum
              Registered User
              • May 2009
              • 13379

              #7
              Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

              People are glad that Jeff Tuel is on the Bills roster? What the ****?

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              • better days
                Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #8
                Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                Originally posted by Historian View Post
                I wouldn't use John Murphy as a credible source, Don. He has a financial stake in the organization.

                Just from what I have read, essentially tweets from the D and C and BEN writers at camp, (as well as the talking heads on tv) most say EJ has looked bad, but his saving grace is that Watkins is catching everything thrown to his side of the field, no matter how far off it is.

                I'm really hoping something clicks inside the guys head...and soon.
                While John Murphy does work for the Bills, he does give his honest opinion on players.

                I have often heard him say when a player is not playing well, including EJ.

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                • Turf
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8377

                  #9
                  Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                  With all of the potential QB's available in the middle rounds in the draft we could have gotten, but no, EJ's our guy.
                  Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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                  • better days
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22028

                    #10
                    Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                    Originally posted by Turf View Post
                    With all of the potential QB's available in the middle rounds in the draft we could have gotten, but no, EJ's our guy.
                    Tell us who you would have wanted the Bills to take in the draft & in which round.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                      Everyone says that Tuel is beating out Lewis in their competition, but I haven't heard anyone say that Tuel has looked better than EJ overall.

                      The Op has commented on EJ's poor throws, well Tuel has had poor throws as well, including INT's.

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                      • Mike
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3805

                        #12
                        Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                        Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                        Did you learn English from commercials?
                        Actually, I did.

                        Why do you ask?
                        Please Make Sense

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                        • THATHURMANATOR
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 69112

                          #13
                          Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                          Another wasted Thread.

                          We are EJ or bust. Why even discuss this?

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                          • justasportsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71579

                            #14
                            Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                            Like I said before, in spite of Tuel's limited experience in college and limited snaps at camp last year vs EJ, EJ looked just as bad as Tuel at times. From what I saw at camp last year, Tuel kept up with both EJ and Kolb.

                            I've have a feeling the coaching staff see's the potential in Tuel as a BACK UP. If EJ doesn't improve then he's just another back up like Tuel.
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                            • ParanoidAndroid
                              My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 16834

                              #15
                              Re: Best QB on Bills Roster

                              Tuel looks good in camp and looks terrible in games. EJ was at least serviceable and made a few good plays at the ends of games to seal a W. I'm not saying it's impossible for that to turn around but as of right now, you have no evidence to suggest that is going to happen.

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