Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

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  • Haile SpikedLemonade
    • Jun 2024

    Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

    Just wondering what the impact will be of the end of the Bills in Toronto series will have on Canadians attending Bills games in Buffalo.

    Given:

    Brandon has noted one success: attendance by Canadian fans at Ralph Wilson Stadium had increased from 11% to 20% at the time of the renewal agreement.[24] Brandon has said that "Southern Ontario and the Toronto market and the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) are now the top secondary market of the Buffalo Bills".

    and

    However, Brandon also emphasized the financial benefits of the series by saying that it has "taken a game out of the [Buffalo] market that has essentially taken 70,000 seats out of our market, and we've truly only sold out two of our home games". He went on to say "we've manufactured sellouts in the other four or five. We're trying to find ways to obviously keep this team viable and we've done a very good job, and this [Toronto] series has obviously contributed to that".[32] Brandon has also said that the additional game would "stress-test the Buffalo market"

    and

    About 10,000 to 15,000 attendees (15-20% of the total) of Bills' home games at Ralph Wilson Stadium come from southern Ontario.





    I am surprised the percentage of Canadians increased to 20% as of January 2013.

    So if Brandon is right that the increase is due to the now dead series, will Canadian attendance drop?

    If it does, I hope all the big mouths crapping on Canadians will reach deeper into your pockets and buy more tickets so we can see the games up here without streaming.

    Please don't let us down.
    Last edited by Guest; 08-04-2014, 06:47 PM.
  • Swiper
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2010
    • 33105

    #2
    Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

    Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?
    We can always hope so.

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    • SpikedLemonade
      • Jun 2024

      #3
      Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

      Originally posted by Swiper View Post
      We can always hope so.
      So Swiper do you have seasons tickets for the Bills?

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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
        Skoobasaurus-Rex
        • Oct 2011
        • 22284

        #4
        Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

        Fingers crossed.

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        • Swiper
          Legendary Zoner
          • Sep 2010
          • 33105

          #5
          Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

          No.

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          • SpikedLemonade
            • Jun 2024

            #6
            Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
            No.
            Could you get a pair to help keep the Bills in Buffalo?

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            • BillsImpossible
              Registered User
              • Mar 2013
              • 16206

              #7
              Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

              Canadians like to party, and know a good time when they see it in Orchard Park, NY.

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              • SpikedLemonade
                • Jun 2024

                #8
                Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                Fingers crossed.
                I realize you are out of town but you can help keep Canadians out of the seats by buying a pair and giving them to friends in the Buffalo area.

                Is Pegula the only one who is expected to have charity start at home?

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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67946

                  #9
                  Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                  Canadians are OK, even if their money is coloured and looks weird.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • SpikedLemonade
                    • Jun 2024

                    #10
                    Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                    Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                    Canadians like to party, and know a good time when they see it in Orchard Park, NY.
                    Perhaps, but longer border crossings and bad football wears that good time out.

                    We do have alcohol up here and don't need to drink it in a gravel parking lot that is at least a couple hour trip each way.

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                    • SpikedLemonade
                      • Jun 2024

                      #11
                      Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                      Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                      Canadians are OK, even if their money is coloured and looks weird.
                      That is because we are not smart enough to have the different denominations be the same colour.

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                      • BLeonard
                        BoB Sabermetrician
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4625

                        #12
                        Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                        My bet is, the increase in the percentage of Canadian sales has zero to do with the Toronto Series. The 20% could just as easily have come as a result of less people outside of that area buying tickets.

                        If the number of people in Southern Ontario (S.O.) went up around 9% while the amount of people buying tix outside of the area remained the same, my guess is, there would be more sellouts.

                        Let me illustrate on a small scale:

                        Before the series, 1 out of every ten ticket purchasers was from S.O. (10%)

                        Then, during the series, 5 of those 9 that aren't from S.O. stop buying tix... That would mean that 1 out of 5 purchasers is now from S.O. (20%).

                        So yeah, Russ can sell the whole "20% Canadian" thing, but ignores that that number very likely increases because less people outside of that region are buying tix, not necessarily because people from S.O. are buying more.

                        -Bill
                        Last edited by BLeonard; 08-04-2014, 07:02 PM.

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                        • SpikedLemonade
                          • Jun 2024

                          #13
                          Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                          Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                          ....If the number of people in Southern Ontario (S.O.) went up around 9% while the amount of people buying tix outside of the area remained the same, my guess is, there would be more sellouts.....

                          ....So yeah, Russ can sell the whole "20% Canadian" thing, but ignores that that number very likely increases because less people outside of that region are buying tix, not necessarily because people from S.O. are buying more.

                          -Bill
                          Sounds like our American brethren have already not put their money where their mouth is by not supporting the Bills enough.

                          Maybe it is time now for a little less talk and more action.

                          Step up and buy Bills tickets now to show you want the Bills to remain in Buffalo.
                          Last edited by Guest; 08-04-2014, 07:07 PM.

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                          • Dr. Lecter
                            Zero for Zero!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 67946

                            #14
                            Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                            Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                            That is because we are not smart enough to have the different denominations be the same colour.
                            Not my fault you guys don't know the difference between '1', '5', '10', '20', '50', etc.
                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                            • BLeonard
                              BoB Sabermetrician
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4625

                              #15
                              Re: Will There Be a Drop in Canadians Attending Bills Games in Buffalo This Year?

                              Just looked it up: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...buffalo-bills/

                              Overall average attendance in 2008 was 71,405... It went down for the first four years of the Series, rebounding slightly in 2012 and a bit more last season.

                              2013's average attendance was 66,267... Over 5000 less than the 2008 average.

                              That's proof to me that the reason for the percentage going up was due to less sales outside of S.O. instead of some great surge of people in S.O. buying tix that they didn't prior to the Toronto Series.

                              -Bill

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