Is The Lack of Competition Hurting EJ Manuel?

[BillsImpossible]

Why should EJ Manuel be handed the starting QB job on a silver platter?

Because he was the #1 draft pick in 2013? Is that the only reason?

Isn't it hypocritical for the coaching staff to stress, "competition," to the team while at the same time they're not giving the most important player on the team any competition at all?

All I want is a fair competition. Competition makes players better. Competition makes everyone better.

Handing the job to EJ without competition doesn't make sense.

Jeff Tuel was 12 for 17 last night and played well.

EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel both deserve a fair competition.

[Skooby]

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Who did Tuel play against ? Who did Eli play against in his 3rd series ?

[BillsImpossible]

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Who did Tuel play against ? Who did Eli play against in his 3rd series ?

Be honest...

If you were the coach of the Buffalo Bills, wouldn't you like to see how well Jeff Tuel performs with the starting offense?

[kingJofNYC]

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If EJ needs competition to up his game, then he shouldn't be QB to begin with.

he's a poor QB, was a poor QB at FSU, and unless he really puts it together, which is the least likely outcome, we'll be shopping for a replacement real soon. Competition can't turn a bad QB around.

[Homegrown]

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It might be the lack of ability that is hurting EJ....

[BertSquirtgum]

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Of course it is. There is no competition to push him and make him better. Very dumb IMO.

[bleve]

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Lack of competition is hurting Tuel more than it is EJ.

EJ is maxed out

[Woodman]

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I'd have E.J. taking at least 50% of the snaps preseason or not.

[Mace]

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Be honest...

If you were the coach of the Buffalo Bills, wouldn't you like to see how well Jeff Tuel performs with the starting offense?

We did, last year after Tuel had a phenomenal preseason, and he was terrible. We went through the competition aspect last year too.

The wrong thing to do was hiring a QB coach who made Stafford worse to develop anyone.

These guys are who they are and hope suddenly it all clicks to Manuel who has better tools, or we've been through this before.

[Pinkerton Security]

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Be honest...

If you were the coach of the Buffalo Bills, wouldn't you like to see how well Jeff Tuel performs with the starting offense?

Do you have no memory or just selective memory? Dont you remember how Tuel played against the Brownies? It was like watching a so-so HIGH SCHOOL qb play against the Browns.

I agree that no QB should simply be handed the job, but EJ was our first pick overall pick, he has the physical capabilities to be an NFL QB, now he just needs to develop the mental part of the game. This might be easier said than done but thats the plan and it isnt going to change any time soon.

[trapezeus]

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Do you have no memory or just selective memory? Dont you remember how Tuel played against the Brownies? It was like watching a so-so HIGH SCHOOL qb play against the Browns.

I agree that no QB should simply be handed the job, but EJ was our first pick overall pick, he has the physical capabilities to be an NFL QB, now he just needs to develop the mental part of the game. This might be easier said than done but thats the plan and it isnt going to change any time soon.

tuel, and pretty much any back up qb, gets a pass for the game they enter. they've been prepping the other offense all week and not running th enumber ones. maybe a seasoned guy who is ready to handle both ebcause he knows the teams system from several years would be able to fair better.

the KC game was average for Tuel. that INT at the 1Y stood out.

my issue with tuel is that his delivery seems to be so deliberate and long winded that he might be ok the first game or two, but then teams will have him solved. i also think he looks very small as a modern day qb. doesn't seem to have the size that will make him durable for a full season. and lastly i dont think he has november-december arm strength.

i'd like to see ej get the first half and tuel get the second half in the next game. if EJ isn't moving forward, then the next game, EJ should get a quarter and if its more of the same, and tuel has done well with the scrubs, he should get the second quarter. and if tuel keeps looking like the better player, the negatives i feel above on tuel need to be cast aside and see him get a game in the preseason with the starters and see where his performance is.

EJ could have used veteran qb competition where the threat was very real that the team was ok being sheppard through the first half with a journeyman. the competition the way it is set up, is almost meaningless.

[EDS]

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Too much money for Dalton. Tough call for the Bengals though as he has gotten them to the playoffs.

Interestingly, if Manual had stats identical to Dalton's rookie year numbers this season people would be over the moon.

[Pinkerton Security]

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Too much money for Dalton. Tough call for the Bengals though as he has gotten them to the playoffs.

Interestingly, if Manual had stats identical to Dalton's rookie year numbers this season people would be over the moon.

2011 Andy Dalton, 16 games started:
300 for 516, 58.1% completion, 3398 yards for 6.59 yard average, 20 TDs, 13 INTs

2013 EJ Manuel, 10 games started:
180 for 306, 58.8% completion, 1972 yards for 6.44 yard average, 11 TDs, 9 INTs

These numbers are actually very very similar, granted EJ missed time which is a negative against him, but project out the rest of the season and EJ comes very close to Dalton's numbers. Im not comparing them as QB's necessarily, but just based on numbers they are similar.

[swiper]

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2011 Andy Dalton, 16 games started:
300 for 516, 58.1% completion, 3398 yards for 6.59 yard average, 20 TDs, 13 INTs

2013 EJ Manuel, 10 games started:
180 for 306, 58.8% completion, 1972 yards for 6.44 yard average, 11 TDs, 9 INTs

These numbers are actually very very similar, granted EJ missed time which is a negative against him, but project out the rest of the season and EJ comes very close to Dalton's numbers. Im not comparing them as QB's necessarily, but just based on numbers they are similar.

Good. Because you shouldn't. I don't care for Dalton, but here is one thing he can say that EJ Manuel cannot touch with a ten foot pole:

Andy Dalton has joined Peyton Manning and Dan Marino becoming the only three quarterbacks to pass for 20 plus touchdowns in each of their first two seasons. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Drew Brees, and Big Ben can’t even say they have done that.

That stat alone is likely the explanation as to why the Bills jumped up and grabbed Watkins. They hope to do for Manuel what the Bengals did for Dalton by getting Green.

[Bill Cody]

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Good. Because you shouldn't. I don't care for Dalton, but here is one thing he can say that EJ Manuel cannot touch with a ten foot pole:



That stat alone is likely the explanation as to why the Bills jumped up and grabbed Watkins. They hope to do for Manuel what the Bengals did for Dalton by getting Green.

Watkins will help but Manuel could have a young Jerry Rice at WR and not get 20 TD's if he's on the sidelines for half the games. The Dalton contract shows you the real shortage of talent at QB in the NFL. It's a stunning contract for a mediocre player. Right now Manuel is worse than Dalton but if he isn't eventually better I'll be disappointed. When I say eventually I mean 2 years from now.