I Like The Tone Doug Marrone Is Setting

[BillsImpossible]

It's not desperate, it's an urgent sense of reality and Marrone is wearing the tone on his sleeve.

He's acting like a coach that knows this franchise hasn't been to the playoffs in 14 years. I like that.

Doug Marrone has a very convincing sense of urgency, and he's acting like this season is do or die time. Good.

I don't think that sense of urgency comes from his own vulnerability, it is genuine because he really cares about winning and being great.

Doug Marrone wants to win, and he's acting like a ***** which is what good coaches do.

No more pampers like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey put on the Bills.

Thank God! When's the last time this team had a head coach that was an assertive *****?

Belichick is a *****. Bill Parcells is a *****. Tom Coughlin is a *****. Jon Gruden is a *****. Jimmy Johnson is a *****. Harbaugh is a *****.

Count the rings.

There's a difference between being a ***** like those above, and being a dick like Gregg Williams and Mike Mularkey.

The Buffalo Bills need a ***** of a coach to pop the 14 year playoff drought bubble.

Doug Marrone has done everything he can possibly do to have his team ready to go against the Bears.

I like his leadership, and I like how he's taking a stand. He's the most vocal, articulate, outspoken, assertive ***** of a coach this team has had since Marv Levy dropped F bombs on the sidelines of RWS.

[Night Train]

So Marrone is a *****

Greggo was a dick

dick.. was a Jauron

Chan was...confused ?

[YardRat]

Depends on how the team reacts...he could just as easily lose them if he's not careful.

[ServoBillieves]

So Marrone is a *****

Greggo was a dick

dick.. was a Jauron

Chan was...confused ?

Chan was a loser.

[SpikedLemonade]

Chan was a loser.

Yet that POS found a way to win 7 games per season.

I agree he was not good enough but what we got now can't approach his understanding of football.

[TacklingDummy]

They have all been losers since Wade.

[Fletch]

Chan was a loser.

LOL

Not according to everyone here when he was hired.

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They have all been losers since Wade.

Only after three seasons.

When they were hired the expectations here exceeded those of this season's team by a long shot.

[Fletch]

Doug Marrone has done everything he can possibly do to have his team ready to go against the Bears.

Yeah, with all of that scoring in the preseason by the 1st team we can now hit the ground running.

You talk as if Marrone has nothing to do with it but motivation and that all that a good coach does is motivate the team and then let's the chips fall where they may.

You don't see any major differences between Marrone and Belichick, Parcells, Coughlin, Gruden, Johnson, or either Harbaugh? Seriously?

Marrone often had a confused, perplexed, and dejected look last season during games that I don't think I've ever seen from any of the coaches you mentioned.

[Meathead]

belicheat is actually a mediocre cheater of a coach who lucked into the best qb of all time that makes him look waaaaay smarter than the rest of his coaching record reveals. but i get your point

[swiper]

Chan was a loser.

Spiller doesn't think so.

[Fletch]

belicheat is actually a mediocre cheater of a coach who lucked into the best qb of all time that makes him look waaaaay smarter than the rest of his coaching record reveals. but i get your point

I couldn't agree with you more. I wouldn't say that he's a mediocre defensive coach, he's tops there. But as a head coach, way, way, way overrated.

He couldn't do jack with other QBs that did much better elsewhere, like Testeverde who left him and Cleveland and put up twice the numbers in Baltimore the following year I think it was.

Brady has made Belicheat, not visa versa. Let's not forget, he didn't recognize any talent in particular in Brady, it took an early season-ending injury to Bledsoe to get him to play Brady, kinda like it took a heart attack to Terry Bledsoe, our then GM, to promote Polian into the role of GM here.

Once Brady is no longer his QB you'll see his teams regularly post 8-8 to 11-5 records tops, and that's if our division continues to remain the way it is apart from the Pats.

I doubt that Belicheat ever wins another championship. His team has been the Super Bowl favorite just about every season since his last one and he still can't win one more in 9 seasons.

[imbondz]

I doubt that Belicheat ever wins another championship. His team has been the Super Bowl favorite just about every season since his last one and he still can't win one more in 9 seasons.

that just sounds so dumb. you know how hard it is to win a SB. He's won 3. It's too late to say Belicheat is overrated, he's not. he'll go down as one of the best head coaches of all time. I understand Brady is the reason, but he's surrounded Brady with stellar talent for over a decade.

[Fletch]

that just sounds so dumb. you know how hard it is to win a SB. He's won 3. It's too late to say Belicheat is overrated, he's not. he'll go down as one of the best head coaches of all time. I understand Brady is the reason, but he's surrounded Brady with stellar talent for over a decade.

The Pats have been favored to win the SB at the beginning of 8 of the last 9 seasons IIRC. It's been at least 7.

Their playoff record during that stretch is hardly impressive, they've lost to inferior teams three times in the Conference Championships and were outplayed and beaten by inferior Giants teams twice in the SB, once vastly inferior. Not once have his Pats lost to a better team in the playoffs, not once. At least not a better team on paper. He's had his ass routinely handed to him by Harbaugh and the Ravens and even by Ryan at times when Ryan's had half of what Belicheat has had to work with.

If Belicheat were as good as everyone says he is then those things wouldn't have happened.

He's fortunate to have been in the AFCE all this time and to have had Brady.

He is highly overrated. He's got a great mind for D, but otherwise is ridiculously overrated.

[OpIv37]

It's not desperate, it's an urgent sense of reality and Marrone is wearing the tone on his sleeve.

He's acting like a coach that knows this franchise hasn't been to the playoffs in 14 years. I like that.

Doug Marrone has a very convincing sense of urgency, and he's acting like this season is do or die time. Good.

I don't think that sense of urgency comes from his own vulnerability, it is genuine because he really cares about winning and being great.

Doug Marrone wants to win, and he's acting like a ***** which is what good coaches do.

No more pampers like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey put on the Bills.

Thank God! When's the last time this team had a head coach that was an assertive *****?

Belichick is a *****. Bill Parcells is a *****. Tom Coughlin is a *****. Jon Gruden is a *****. Jimmy Johnson is a *****. Harbaugh is a *****.

Count the rings.

There's a difference between being a ***** like those above, and being a dick like Gregg Williams and Mike Mularkey.

The Buffalo Bills need a ***** of a coach to pop the 14 year playoff drought bubble.

Doug Marrone has done everything he can possibly do to have his team ready to go against the Bears.

I like his leadership, and I like how he's taking a stand. He's the most vocal, articulate, outspoken, assertive ***** of a coach this team has had since Marv Levy dropped F bombs on the sidelines of RWS.

Ok time to come clean. Are you actually delusional enough to believe the drivel that you post, or are you jus trollig and attempting to piss people off by being overtly positive over situations that are clearly negative?

[Historian]

No more pampers like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey put on the Bills.



"Uhh I love these guys...and I love this game....and...."

[Historian]

Kay Stevenson: "Uhhhh, I saw a lot of character out there....'

[Historian]

Hank Bullough: "Duh....they really took the sails out of our winds!"

[Historian]

Wade: "Uh...he'll be the punt catcher...yea."

[Historian]

Williams: "Sam Cowart will play where i tell him to play!"

[GingerP]

He couldn't do jack with other QBs that did much better elsewhere, like Testeverde who left him and Cleveland and put up twice the numbers in Baltimore the following year I think it was.

Brady has made Belicheat, not visa versa. Let's not forget, he didn't recognize any talent in particular in Brady, it took an early season-ending injury to Bledsoe to get him to play Brady, kinda like it took a heart attack to Terry Bledsoe, our then GM, to promote Polian into the role of GM here.

He won 11 games with Matt Cassell at QB. He won 11 games with Testaverde at QB. Currently, 3 NFL teams are opening the season this year with QBs that Belichick had in NE, and they were all low picks (Brady - 6th, Cassell - 7th, Hoyer - UDFA). It isn't like he fell into a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, he had guys who were afterthoughts and made them better.

I understand the hatred for Belichick, he is an egomaniac and a *****. However, you can't deny what a great coach he is, at least if you watch his teams play. Brady isn't the only reason the Patriots win. They win because their teams are consistently prepared better than most teams. They win because Belichick is one of the best coaches in NFL history at managing the game from the sideline. Mediocre coach? I'm dumbfounded by that logic.

It is really hard to win in the NFL. A good coach may only reach 11 wins once every few years or so.

[gebobs]

Yet that POS found a way to win 7 games per season.
That was Jauron (7,7,7,[5]). Gailey's win totals were 4,6,6.


I agree he was not good enough but what we got now can't approach his understanding of football.
LOL...Gailey was no football genius. He struggled at Ga Tech. I heard the collective cheer from campus when he got sacked all the way out in Cobb.

[Bill Cody]

That was Jauron (7,7,7,[5]). Gailey's win totals were 4,6,6.


LOL...Gailey was no football genius. He struggled at Ga Tech. I heard the collective cheer from campus when he got sacked all the way out in Cobb.

He's one of those nice guys that may not finish last but never finishes first either. I like Chan but he just can't inspire anyone. At GTECH that meant he couldn't/didn't recruit. But I'll be honest, I'd take him back in a heart beat right now as OC. That pick of Hackett may be Marrone's undoing. I actually like Marrone. But he could have used a gray beard as OC, reduce the pressure on him a bit.

[Turf]

It's not desperate, it's an urgent sense of reality and Marrone is wearing the tone on his sleeve.

He's acting like a coach that knows this franchise hasn't been to the playoffs in 14 years. I like that.

Doug Marrone has a very convincing sense of urgency, and he's acting like this season is do or die time. Good.

I don't think that sense of urgency comes from his own vulnerability, it is genuine because he really cares about winning and being great.

Doug Marrone wants to win, and he's acting like a ***** which is what good coaches do.

No more pampers like Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey put on the Bills.

Thank God! When's the last time this team had a head coach that was an assertive *****?

Belichick is a *****. Bill Parcells is a *****. Tom Coughlin is a *****. Jon Gruden is a *****. Jimmy Johnson is a *****. Harbaugh is a *****.

Count the rings.

There's a difference between being a ***** like those above, and being a dick like Gregg Williams and Mike Mularkey.

The Buffalo Bills need a ***** of a coach to pop the 14 year playoff drought bubble.

Doug Marrone has done everything he can possibly do to have his team ready to go against the Bears.

I like his leadership, and I like how he's taking a stand. He's the most vocal, articulate, outspoken, assertive ***** of a coach this team has had since Marv Levy dropped F bombs on the sidelines of RWS.

How dare you try to make a clear rationale statement on here.

[bleve]

Chan was a loser.

I'd love to have that loser as our OC right now...

[OpIv37]

How dare you try to make a clear rationale statement on here.

There's nothing rational about what he said whatsoever.

He made some arbitrary distinction between being a ***** and being a dick that seems to be based on nothing more than winning, and then randomly assigned Marrone to the winning category based on nothing at all.

He's essentially grasping at straws to make it seem like Marrone's recent outbursts will somehow translate to wins.

He does this with everything that happens to the team. He starts with the conclusion that it's positive, then ignores mountains of evidence that it's negative while desperately trying to justify his conclusion.

He has to be a troll because no one could be this naive and oblivious.

[Turf]

Got to disagree Op. Made perfect sense to me. I'm not saying its necessarily true but it is a good angle.

[Mr. Pink]

belicheat is actually a mediocre cheater of a coach who lucked into the best qb of all time that makes him look waaaaay smarter than the rest of his coaching record reveals. but i get your point

Except he took a Vinny Testaverde lead Browns team to 11-5 with the best defense in football and an o-line that gave up something like 12 sacks on the year in 1994. And in 1995 they were preseason darlings to make it to the Superbowl and then well everyone knows what happened next.

Belichick established himself as a good coach prior to being in NE.

[Mr. Pink]

Jauron is the best coach this team has had since Levy.

He was given a talent deficient roster and coached and gameplanned the team to have a chance at winning games it had no business even being in. The game vs the Colts where he had Losman only throw the ball like 15 times is a prime example of it.

With more talent Jauron would have coached the team to the playoffs.

[Bill Cody]

Jauron is the best coach this team has had since Levy.

He was given a talent deficient roster and coached and gameplanned the team to have a chance at winning games it had no business even being in. The game vs the Colts where he had Losman only throw the ball like 15 times is a prime example of it.

With more talent Jauron would have coached the team to the playoffs.

Maybe but by the time we got there the fans would have been fast asleep.

[Mr. Pink]

Maybe but by the time we got there the fans would have been fast asleep.

He was trying to win games not be entertaining. He had the offense specifically gameplanned to hide the biggest weakness on it, Losman, and the team almost stole a victory vs the Colts by doing it.

He was a square in a square peg type of guy unlike the guy who succeeded him tried to make everyone and everything fit what he wanted to do exclusively. Which led Fitzpatrick forced to try and carry too many games when he is not the type of QB who can do that.

I have no idea what the philosophy is now other than the OC looks like he's in way over his head at this level.

[OpIv37]

Got to disagree Op. Made perfect sense to me. I'm not saying its necessarily true but it is a good angle.

Yeah well, my opinion aside, think about this:

He starts threads like this, then never responds even when other posters get in heated arguments over the opinion he expressed.

That has "troll" written all over it.

[paladin warrior]

Chan was a loser. Chan was a Dick Bag

[paladin warrior]

Chan was a loser. Chan was a double loser

[Fletch]

Got to disagree Op. Made perfect sense to me. I'm not saying its necessarily true but it is a good angle.

It was pure conjecture. We don't know all the details, and like so many other posters that post without any facts much less any relevant ones, there are none there either.

So while it may sound good and may make sense to you, it's far from rational, it's pure guesswork.

I get the opposite take, that Marrone's lost control of the team and is starting to have little tantrums. I've rarely seen a player challenge a coach openly the way that we heard about who was it, Hughes, in camp did. Usually that stuff happens in games after heated moments, not in camp.

Is there any concrete indication that Marone actually knows what he's doing and has control over this team? I don't see any. It's clear that Hackett has no ****ing clue what's going on and since the issues between Marone and Whaley seem to be regarding the offense, I'd say that spills over to Marone.

I think he's on the cusp of losing the players' respect. I haven't read anything in a good long while about how any of the players are buying into this system or Manuel in any great measure.

[Fletch]

Except he took a Vinny Testaverde lead Browns team to 11-5 with the best defense in football and an o-line that gave up something like 12 sacks on the year in 1994. And in 1995 they were preseason darlings to make it to the Superbowl and then well everyone knows what happened next.

Belichick established himself as a good coach prior to being in NE.

LOL

Belicheat's records in Cleveland were 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11.

In his 1st season in New England he was 5-11.

In his 2nd season in New England he started 0-2 before Bledsoe went down.

All in all without Brady he's been 41-57. (.418) That's worse than Jauron's career mark. In fact, they're comparable pre-Brady. Jauron posted a 13-3 season amidst a bunch of losing ones too.

Now I know that we here in Buffalo may have a different defintion of being good, but that's not it under any circumstances.

Your point on Testeverde is lost. He was also there in the years prior to and after that year. He had 16 TDs and 18 INTs that season, hardly the reason for their 11 wins. Two seasons later Marchibroda got 33 TDs to 19 INTs out of Testeverde.

They only beat two teams with winning records that regular season. They lost to the Steelers all three times. The only good team that they beat was Dallas. It was kind of like our 2004 season, built on a soft schedule and favorable circumstances.

Either way, Belicheat's 41-57 pre-Brady record speaks for itself.

[YardRat]

To be fair nobody knows what the climate is like in the locker and meeting rooms either...for all we know, the players have bought into the system and Doug, and we're just not seeing it on the field. That being said...

If the preseason performances carry over into the regular season, I could see Marrone melting down before the halfway point. Good thing we've got an experienced HC in the wings.

[WagonCircler]

Yes, this attitude of Marrone's is especially badass. It takes a ballsy Head Coach to send his team out and score zero points. Points are for conformists. They're facist. Who needs points? F! points!

Marrone is the Johnny Rotten of football coaches. A regular punk rocker. Never mind the bollocks (or the points), here's the Buffalo Bills!

[Historian]

Belicheck earned my respect in SB XXV.

No way that game should have even be close.

[Bill Cody]

He was trying to win games not be entertaining. He had the offense specifically gameplanned to hide the biggest weakness on it, Losman, and the team almost stole a victory vs the Colts by doing it.

He was a square in a square peg type of guy unlike the guy who succeeded him tried to make everyone and everything fit what he wanted to do exclusively. Which led Fitzpatrick forced to try and carry too many games when he is not the type of QB who can do that.

I have no idea what the philosophy is now other than the OC looks like he's in way over his head at this level.

Jauron did about as well record wise as he could when he was here, don't disagree. Having said that the biggest reason I watch the games is for entertainment and his teams were beyond boring, like watching soccer. So on balance I would prefer Chan to Dick which isn't saying much. 7-9 with Dick vs 6-10 with Chan isn't worth having to drink a Big Gulp at 12:30 Sunday afternoon in order to avoid nodding off.

And you're right about a lack of identity with this team. Honestly it surprises me but maybe they really aren't sure yet what they have if anything with Manuel but it's a concern.