... Bills vs. Lions GDT

[ServoBillieves]

C'mon MMD! This should've been up at 12:01!

Weather: Fair, 69, 10% chance of precipitation
Announcers: Bently, Tasker for TV; Murphy, Kelso WGR550
TV: Blacked out
Game time: 7:00 PM EST.

Let's go Bills!

[Dying_-2-_Live]

Anybody have any free online streaming?

[ServoBillieves]

Anybody have any free online streaming?

PM'd!

[SpikedLemonade]

PM'd!

Please send it along to me as well.

[Skooby]

I could use a link , thank you !

[Turf]

I could use a link as well.

[Night Train]

I could use a 12 of Sam Adams Boston Lager. Thank You !

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Linky por favor. I wanna watch TUEL TIME!

Ok no I don't, I just need background while I work around the house.

[Gilly]

can i get the link please?

[lightningbolt444]

can i get the link please?


SAME please

[ServoBillieves]

Links sent.

Palmer looks good in Blue... wanted to say that while I still could

[stuckincincy]

Sack.

[ServoBillieves]

Sammy breaks the defenders legs... Manuel throws it in the dirt.

[casdhf]

Yes. Link please

[stuckincincy]

This.

[SpikedLemonade]

Good start. Same result.

[cookie G]

no short route...refuses to throw and takes a sack.

Going to be a long season.

[Ingtar33]

EJ had a wr breaking free at the bottom of the screen, he never looked at him... just hung onto it and took the drive killing sack. terrible.

[Turf]

link anyone?

[Ingtar33]

basically the lions came out with all 2nd stringers and the offense could only manage to get to mid field. horrible.

[casdhf]

Thanks

[SpikedLemonade]

Surprised we have the starting D in there when the Lions left 7 of their O starters in Detroit.

[ServoBillieves]

Was that Ashlee Palmer?

[SpikedLemonade]

Robey got whacked.

[streetkings01]

This A&M QB is a stud........he may already be better then EJ!

[Bunion]

Best thing so far...great tackling by the 1st D. Lions get hit and Lions go down.

[ServoBillieves]

"Bryce Brown who they lovingly call Boobie."

My God...

[SpikedLemonade]

EJ is going to get Sammy killed.

[Skooby]

Local broadcast as well, nice. Thanks again.

[stuckincincy]

2/5 in 2 series for Manuel.

[ServoBillieves]

Great tackle by Hogan. Fred's gotta have that ball in the regular season but EJ has to put it in a catchable area.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I tune in just in time to see Manuel lead Watkins too far and then throw too high for Jackson. Ughhhhhhhh

[ParanoidAndroid]

I hope they are not this boring to watch all season.

[sudzy]

Oh yeah, he's really improving

[jamze132]

Sammy hurt again?

[streetkings01]

Hopefully we run 40 times a game

[Mace]

I just don't have a good feeling about this season.

[ServoBillieves]

Spikes is an animal.

[Fletch]

Fred's gotta have that ball in the regular season but EJ has to put it in a catchable area.

We'll be hearing that a lot this season again.

[Bunion]

Sammy hurt again?

Seemed like he walked back to the huddle with this thumbs hooked under the chest straps of his pads.

[Fletch]

I just don't have a good feeling about this season.

Let's at least see if the 1st team can score against Detroits 2nd-teamers.

[SpikedLemonade]

Woods is the only Bill WR you want in fantasy football.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Let's go penalties! Woooo!

[ServoBillieves]

We traded for Bryce Brown... why?

[Ingtar33]

terrible... that's the 2nd string defense and without PA penalties we can't move the ball

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Why did we draft so many short wideouts and get a QB who throws high every play?

[Ingtar33]

3-7 56 yards... nice job vs the 2nd string. my anger at the coaching staff and management just keeps getting bigger.

[Scumbag College]

Eh J isn't instilling a great deal of confidence in me.

[ServoBillieves]

Woods with 3 steps on his man and EJ tosses it over his head.

Alright, I held on to my optimism long enough. EJ will hold us back from the playoffs this season.

[Fletch]

3 drives, average 15 yards per drive.

Detroit doesn't even have all of their starting D in.

[SpikedLemonade]

Woods could have has that one.

OTOH, EJ had a wide open WR he overthrew.

[TacklingDummy]

Sammy hurt again?

Whoever thought giving up 2 first round picks and a 4th for a WR when you don't have a QB should be fired.

[Fletch]

We traded for Bryce Brown... why?

That's what I've been asking since that trade.

[SpikedLemonade]

We traded for Bryce Brown... why?

Because we don't plan on paying CJ what he wants.

[Buffalogic]

Ej is a scared little boy. He's terrible.

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Because we don't plan on paying CJ what he wants.
3.5 million isn't a lot per season.

[streetkings01]

EJ 3/7 56yds against 2nd stringers

[Ingtar33]

Whoever thought giving up 2 first round picks and a 4th for a WR when you don't have a QB should be fired.

i'll have to hunt down my extremely unpopular posts when i was complaining about the trade up and pick of watkins. I basically said the same thing. This isn't about Watkins not being a good player. it's about the price we paid to draft him when you consider ALL the parts we still need.

[streetkings01]

Watkins hurt ribs again

[TacklingDummy]

EJ 3/7 56yds against 2nd stringers
2 sacks.

[SpikedLemonade]

Ej is a scared little boy. He's terrible.

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3.5 million isn't a lot per season.


I think CJ will want closer to $5M. He wants to be paid for the productivity he would have had if the Bills used him properly.

[Fletch]

i'll have to hunt down my extremely unpopular posts when i was complaining about the trade up and pick of watkins. I basically said the same thing. This isn't about Watkins not being a good player. it's about the price we paid to draft him when you consider ALL the parts we still need.

That pick made no sense no matter how you look at it. It was Whaley trying to cover his ass on his Manuel pick, he wasn't thinking about the team, he was thinking with his football dick.

[Ingtar33]

I think CJ will want closer to $5M. He wants to be paid for the productivity he would have had if the Bills used him properly.

he should. Simply put he should ask for a lot more then he's worth if he wants out and into a better opportunity. He has no obligation to pissing away the best years of his career on a team that won't use him correctly.

[Fletch]

i'll have to hunt down my extremely unpopular posts when i was complaining about the trade up and pick of watkins. I basically said the same thing. This isn't about Watkins not being a good player. it's about the price we paid to draft him when you consider ALL the parts we still need.

By the way, we haven't even seen that even when healthy Watkins is going to be as good as advertised or even close. He's done nothing.

[Fletch]

he should. Simply put he should ask for a lot more then he's worth if he wants out and into a better opportunity. He has no obligation to pissing away the best years of his career on a team that won't use him correctly.

I'm curious how he'd do elsewhere.

We'll resign him simply because this is going to be Jackson's last relevant season and the team won't have a choice, so once again they'll have to likely overpay because they've put their backs against a wall.

[HAMMER]

Watkins is a China Doll.

[ServoBillieves]

EJ needs to be done for the night. Jordan or Jeff need all the reps they can get.

[Ingtar33]

By the way, we haven't even seen that even when healthy Watkins is going to be as good as advertised or even close. He's done nothing.

i've watched him get open a lot. ej rarely sees it... and even when he's open won't throw it unless he's "college football open" (meaning he has a couple yards of separation)

[TacklingDummy]

i'll have to hunt down my extremely unpopular posts when i was complaining about the trade up and pick of watkins. I basically said the same thing. This isn't about Watkins not being a good player. it's about the price we paid to draft him when you consider ALL the parts we still need.
I hated the trade up then and I hate it even more now.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I'm curious how he'd do elsewhere.

We'll resign him simply because this is going to be Jackson's last relevant season and the team won't have a choice, so once again they'll have to likely overpay because they've put their backs against a wall.

Good thing we extended him!

[Fletch]

LOL

Bills 1st team O against Detroit's 2nd team D getting outplayed by Detroit's 2nd team O against our D starters.

[streetkings01]

As a diehard FSU fan I see the offense progress under Ponder, regress under EJ and take off under Winston. EJ has always been an average QB

[Famous Amos]

Eh J isn't instilling a great deal of confidence in me.

No, you have it wrong man, this game was to instill confidence in EJ...I guess it didn't have the intended effect.

[Skooby]

We look ready for business.

[Fletch]

Good thing we extended him!

He got screwed for years. I'm not a big fan of paying players for back years, but if anyone's ever deserved it it's him.

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No, you have it wrong man, this game was to instill confidence in EJ...I guess it didn't have the intended effect.

LOL

[Fletch]

As a diehard FSU fan I see the offense progress under Ponder, regress under EJ and take off under Winston. EJ has always been an average QB

EJ's always been a very physically gifted QB that has played teams with far lesser talent than the one he's been on.

That changed when he got to the NFL and the truth has now born itself out.

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Palmer in ... good night.

[TacklingDummy]

3-8 against scrubs.

The Lions scrubs must be better than the Bucs scrubs.

[Famous Amos]

That pick made no sense no matter how you look at it. It was Whaley trying to cover his ass on his Manuel pick, he wasn't thinking about the team, he was thinking with his football dick.

So would it be accurate to say that they picked Watkins to ensure Manuel had all of the tools and weapons he would need to be successful? That way, if and when Manuel fails, he has zero excuses and only himself to blame?

[Scumbag College]

The whole reason that trade happened was because Whaley knew he had to win this year or he would be gone. If Watkins comes in, blows up and the Bills go to the playoffs he looks like a genius and the new owners won't can him. If it doesn't work out, he goes. If he doesn't make the trade and the Bills suck, then he leaves some chips on the table.

I'm hoping that Whaley doesn't trade away more picks while he's grasping at straws to keep his job this year.

[SpikedLemonade]

Well that is it for EJ.

3 unsuccessful series against the Lions 2nd stringers at home.

2 sacks.

Overthrows.

The same crap!

How can we hope that the light magically goes on for EJ?

There is absolutely no evidence of it.

[ServoBillieves]

NFL.com rubbing it in... has EJ still in for incompletions and said Mario Williams with the illegal hands to the face.

[Skooby]

Chili time!!!

[Famous Amos]

I came into this game late hoping it would get better after manuel gets taken out.

[Ingtar33]

bills first stringers 0
lions second stringers 3

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terrible how jordan palmer has our second string offense running the same as ej had the 1st stringers... against the same defense.

[ServoBillieves]

Great punt Moorman...

[stuckincincy]

Not much of a punt...4 with a 32 yd ave. so far.

[SpikedLemonade]

Moorman shanks another one.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I feel bad for Brian Moorman right now. He s not going out on a high note.

[Skooby]

Brian needs a pink slip.

[Ingtar33]

detroit 3rd stringers in now

[Famous Amos]

Well that is it for EJ.

3 unsuccessful series against the Lions 2nd stringers at home.

2 sacks.

Overthrows.

The same crap!

How can we hope that the light magically goes on for EJ?

There is absolutely no evidence of it.

So on the radio today, they were saying that Manuel was at best a third or fourth round talent but because the Bills said they were 100% all about drafting a QB in the first round, and Manuel was the best they thought was available, they took him. Some said that we could have drafted him in the second or third but for whatever reason, One Bills Drive felt it was a risk to do so. Now, because the Bills took the guy in the first round, we have this expectation that he should have all the tools, both mental and physical, and it should have been evident as soon as he stepped foot on the field. Just like Watkins. In my opinion, Manuel does not have the aura and it factor that Watkins has.

It sucks that EJ was taken so early because he clearly doesn't have what it takes to live up to that draft status. So when do we shift the blame from Manuel to the guys who put all their faith into him?

[Famous Amos]

by the way, the time stamp on my posts are off by 35 mins.

[YardRat]

I hate the emphasis on illegal contact, hands to the face etc...the refs have taken the rule way too far to other end of the spectrum. It's bad enough they are ruining the game by continually implementing new rules to help the passing game, but if they call regular season games anywhere near how they are the preseason, they might as well put the whole league in a dumpster.

[Ingtar33]

It sucks that EJ was taken so early because he clearly doesn't have what it takes to live up to that draft status. So when do we shift the blame from Manuel to the guys who put all their faith into him?

I'm pretty sure plenty of people including myself has expressed our dissatisfaction with management.

[SpikedLemonade]

I read on NFL.com that we have been trying to trade Graham for months now, but there are no takers.

He will be cut this week.

[ServoBillieves]

So on the radio today, they were saying that Manuel was at best a third or fourth round talent but because the Bills said they were 100% all about drafting a QB in the first round, and Manuel was the best they thought was available, they took him. Some said that we could have drafted him in the second or third but for whatever reason, One Bills Drive felt it was a risk to do so. Now, because the Bills took the guy in the first round, we have this expectation that he should have all the tools, both mental and physical, and it should have been evident as soon as he stepped foot on the field. Just like Watkins. In my opinion, Manuel does not have the aura and it factor that Watkins has.

It sucks that EJ was taken so early because he clearly doesn't have what it takes to live up to that draft status. So when do we shift the blame from Manuel to the guys who put all their faith into him?

That's where it's lost on most fans and I couldn't have put it better myself. It's the front offices fault, with the #1 problem IMHO being we never let him sit. We bring in EJ, we have Kolb who is supposed to play the season. So, it falls on the rookie QB to make some miracles happen right? Well, with Kolb out, we surround him with veteran leadership... oh wait we gave him 2 UDFA QB's to battle it out with. Then we traded for a nobody in Thad Lewis. Now, this offseason with the all-in on Manuel, what did we do in camp? Let him battle with 3 nobodies again, and 3 days ago we finally bring in a veteran.

That, my friends, is 100% front office incompetence.

[Homegrown]

98 yard TD Drive coming up ...whoo-ho

[Famous Amos]

I'm pretty sure plenty of people including myself has expressed our dissatisfaction with management.
I'm sure you have, I don't spend as much time on this board that I'd like to.

[Mace]

by the way, the time stamp on my posts are off by 35 mins.

That's a feature that gives you 35 minutes to do something else.

[Mace]

I don't spend as much time on this board that I'd like to.

You can now that you save 35 minutes per post.

[Famous Amos]

That's where it's lost on most fans and I couldn't have put it better myself. It's the front offices fault, with the #1 problem IMHO being we never let him sit. We bring in EJ, we have Kolb who is supposed to play the season. So, it falls on the rookie QB to make some miracles happen right? Well, with Kolb out, we surround him with veteran leadership... oh wait we gave him 2 UDFA QB's to battle it out with. Then we traded for a nobody in Thad Lewis. Now, this offseason with the all-in on Manuel, what did we do in camp? Let him battle with 3 nobodies again, and 3 days ago we finally bring in a veteran.

That, my friends, is 100% front office incompetence.

How sad is that? The front office is the same as it always has been, even with Wilson in the ground. The front office needs to be cleaned out completely.

[BLeonard]

TJ Graham, ladies and gentlemen... The WR that the Bills took instead of taking Russell Wilson...

-Bill

[streetkings01]

So on the radio today, they were saying that Manuel was at best a third or fourth round talent but because the Bills said they were 100% all about drafting a QB in the first round, and Manuel was the best they thought was available, they took him. Some said that we could have drafted him in the second or third but for whatever reason, One Bills Drive felt it was a risk to do so. Now, because the Bills took the guy in the first round, we have this expectation that he should have all the tools, both mental and physical, and it should have been evident as soon as he stepped foot on the field. Just like Watkins. In my opinion, Manuel does not have the aura and it factor that Watkins has.

It sucks that EJ was taken so early because he clearly doesn't have what it takes to live up to that draft status. So when do we shift the blame from Manuel to the guys who put all their faith into him?
They don't invite 3rd round picks to NY...........he was projected to go in the 1st 2 rounds.........doesn't mean we should've took him tho.

[Famous Amos]

You can now that you save 35 minutes per post.
haha, Im pleased that i have been bestowed this awesome feature. How can i take advantage of it?

[ServoBillieves]

Has a player ever been cut mid-game before? I'd like to see TJ go yesterday.

[Ingtar33]

bills 1st vs lions 2nd stringers 0-3
bills 2nd vs lions 3rd stringer 0-7

[Famous Amos]

They don't invite 3rd round picks to NY...........he was projected to go in the 1st 2 rounds.........doesn't mean we should've took him tho.
Welp, thats not a bad angle to take on the situation.

[Famous Amos]

God if this season goes to hell, does Marrone get canned mid season?

[Thief]

Can I score a link to game streaming also please?

[ServoBillieves]

Penalties have made NFL football unwatchable. I don't care if it's preseason.

Also, Bills fans booing already. Save it for the regular season folks, don't want to waste it preseason!

[Skooby]

I think Tuel time should be quite impressive, we look like possums.

[SpikedLemonade]

2nd home pre-season home game where the Bills have been booed in the 2nd quarter.

This is a bad football team.

This pre-season we have lost to some pretty bad teams.

Heck we would not even got the victory in Carolina if Cam Newton played.

[BLeonard]

How sad is that? The front office is the same as it always has been, even with Wilson in the ground. The front office needs to be cleaned out completely.

That's because it's the same front office that Wilson put together... I sure hope anyone believing the rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic routine that they did every few years can see this now.

Like I said in another thread, the only hope I have is that the new owner gets rid of the entire front office and is willing to pay real football people to run things, instead of making the former Florida Marlins marketing guy the team's CEO.

-Bill

[BLeonard]

God if this season goes to hell, does Marrone get canned mid season?

I could see Marrone quitting, to be honest.


This is a bad football team.

Using the term "football team" pretty loosely there...

-Bill

[Skooby]

Can I score a link to game streaming also please?
Linky sent.

[Famous Amos]

I think Tuel time should be quite impressive, we look like possums.
What the hell, I'm resigned that the Bills will suck this year. I think Tuel time will be much more entertaining than Manuel in there. It feels like Trentative Edwards all over again. This is how the Bills do it. They manage to be so dysfunctional that you can't help to be excited for an undrafted free agent QB because even an undrafted free agent QB has a better feel for the game than the first rounder.

[Famous Amos]

I could see Marrone quitting, to be honest.



Using the term "football team" pretty loosely there...

-Bill
He does seem like that kind of guy. Not that he's a quitter, but that he has better things to do than to coach football in Buffalo.

[Homegrown]

Linky sent.

that was horribly inhumane of you....

[Buffalogic]

EJ is terrible. We can agree on that. But what was the alternative at that point?

Fitzpatrick's time was up, so really they were forced to either draft a QB early in a weak class or sign some scrub FA. They had a ****ty hand, bluffed, went all in and got crushed. We all hate it, but what really could they have done? Maybe waited til the 4th round and drafted EJ? We still would have the same problem in that situation. More talent in every other position and a joke of a starting QB. They gambled hoping to hit a home run and instead got called out on a foul ball bunting with 2 strikes.

[Mace]

haha, Im pleased that i have been bestowed this awesome feature. How can i take advantage of it?

Well, I've only been here a year and a half, so I don't know, I'm still figuring things out. I can tell you though that the more I post, the less grey I have in my stubble and the more my hairline advances.

[SpikedLemonade]

That's 4 sacks against the Lions 2nd and 3rd string D.

Our OL isn't looking good tonight.

[BLeonard]

He does seem like that kind of guy. Not that he's a quitter, but that he has better things to do than to coach football in Buffalo.

...Or putting up with the **** that he's dealing with from the Front Office... IIRC, that's why Mularkey left.

-Bill

[Famous Amos]

that was horribly inhumane of you....
it was actually a Rick Roll link, which is dramatically more interesting that this game.

[ServoBillieves]

Brown injured. Was only a matter of time...

[Mace]

it was actually a Rick Roll link, which is dramatically more interesting that this game.

Wish I'd have thought of that.

[Famous Amos]

EJ is terrible. We can agree on that. But what was the alternative at that point?

Fitzpatrick's time was up, so really they were forced to either draft a QB early in a weak class or sign some scrub FA. They had a ****ty hand, bluffed, went all in and got crushed. We all hate it, but what really could they have done? Maybe waited til the 4th round and drafted EJ? We still would have the same problem in that situation. More talent in every other position and a joke of a starting QB. They gambled hoping to hit a home run and instead got called out on a foul ball bunting with 2 strikes.

I wouldn't call a first round pick, bunting. They certainly swung for the fences, however, they ended up fouling out a pop to the catcher.

[BLeonard]

EJ is terrible. We can agree on that. But what was the alternative at that point?

Fitzpatrick's time was up, so really they were forced to either draft a QB early in a weak class or sign some scrub FA. They had a ****ty hand, bluffed, went all in and got crushed. We all hate it, but what really could they have done? Maybe waited til the 4th round and drafted EJ? We still would have the same problem in that situation. More talent in every other position and a joke of a starting QB. They gambled hoping to hit a home run and instead got called out on a foul ball bunting with 2 strikes.

At this point, I think I'd take Fitzpatrick over Manuel...

As to what they could have done... Perhaps sign someone to actually challenge Manuel for the job this offseason...?

-Bill

[Famous Amos]

Well, I've only been here a year and a half, so I don't know, I'm still figuring things out. I can tell you though that the more I post, the less grey I have in my stubble and the more my hairline advances.
Thats funny, the more I post,t he drunker and fatter I get.

[BLeonard]

Brown injured. Was only a matter of time...

So, now, they can not sign Spiller, claiming that they know Bryce Brown can be the RB of the future... He just got injured is all...

That's what you'd be hearing in a 2015 with Ralph Wilson as owner...

-Bill

[Mace]

Thats funny, the more I post,t he drunker and fatter I get.

That happens to me anyway just getting through a day. But now with less grey and a better hairline, if drunker and fatter.

[Famous Amos]

Bryant with the sack. wooo!

[streetkings01]

This A&M QB is a complete stud.......

30/39 334yds 3td 0int and the 3rd quarter isn't over yet......11 minutes left sheesh

[Famous Amos]

At this point, I think I'd take Fitzpatrick over Manuel...

As to what they could have done... Perhaps sign someone to actually challenge Manuel for the job this offseason...?

-Bill

maybe take a flyer on a backup that played behind an entrenched starter? Hope that something rubbed off on him. I dont know, the guys in the front office get paid to be forward thinking. When we want a decent backup, instead the front office gives us Thaddues Lewis and Dennis Dixon.

[BillsOverDolphins]

At this point, I think I'd take Fitzpatrick over Manuel...

It seriously has gotten this bad.

[Homegrown]

At this point, I think I'd take Fitzpatrick over Manuel...

As to what they could have done... Perhaps sign someone to actually challenge Manuel for the job this offseason...?

-Bill I'd take Vince Ferragamo....heck, I'd take Lou Ferrigno

[ServoBillieves]

Gibran Hamdan, where are you?!

[Homegrown]

The ghost of Craig Nall

[SpikedLemonade]

Gibran Hamdan, where are you?!

The Palestine Bomber.

[Mace]

The ghost of Craig Nall

Craig Nall was actually the ghost of Craig Nall, come to think.

[bleve]

Nall Ball!

[SpikedLemonade]

More boos

[BLeonard]

maybe take a flyer on a backup that played behind an entrenched starter? Hope that something rubbed off on him. I dont know, the guys in the front office get paid to be forward thinking. When we want a decent backup, instead the front office gives us Thaddues Lewis and Dennis Dixon.

Pretty sure we're in agreement here that they could have done something... I was replying to Wagon...

For Chrissakes, Kyle Orton is a Free Agent right now... Why not bring someone like him in to challenge Manuel this past offseason...?

-Bill

[Famous Amos]

The Palestine Bomber.
I believe he now runs a boutique clothing store in Minnesota!

[Night Train]

This A&M QB is a complete stud.......

30/39 334yds 3td 0int and the 3rd quarter isn't over yet......11 minutes left sheesh

I'm watching also but South Carolina doesn't play D at all. The old ball coach ignores D and their 18 game home winning streak looks dead.

[ServoBillieves]

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000E607ZIgiJHQ/t/200/I0000E607ZIgiJHQ.jpg

[Famous Amos]

Pretty sure we're in agreement here that they could have done something... I was replying to Wagon...

For Chrissakes, Kyle Orton is a Free Agent right now... Why not bring someone like him in to challenge Manuel this past offseason...?

-Bill

oh yeah, I know you were replying to him. I was just concurring with you.

[Scumbag College]

Chris Hogan with a solid two passes dropped in a row. Palmer actually looking OK

[Buffalogic]

At this point, I think I'd take Fitzpatrick over Manuel...

As to what they could have done... Perhaps sign someone to actually challenge Manuel for the job this offseason...?

-Bill
Don't make me bump my backup qb thread from the offseason. It's too painful. Orton still out there.

[BLeonard]

Chris Hogan with a solid two passes dropped in a row. Palmer actually looking OK

Probably surprised that the passes were accurate...

TD Lions... Same **** as last week.

-Bill

[Turf]

Was thinking the same thing, Orton would be our best QB. But the heck with that, we're sticking with EJ.

[Mace]

By three games into the season, I think Marrone is openly swilling bourbon on the sidelines.

[ServoBillieves]

The season seems to look longer and longer...

[Mace]

No call for Detroit to be running up the score like this.

[SpikedLemonade]

17-0 at the half

More boos at home.

Last week 24-0 at the half.

Plenty of boos.

That is against powerhouses Tampa Bay and Detroit and against their 2nd or 3rd strings.

[ServoBillieves]

By three games into the season, I think Marrone is openly swilling bourbon on the sidelines.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb153/idrow/02192004193413.jpg

[JoeMama]

This has been the saddest preseason I've ever witnessed.

The starting offense gave us nothing. No touchdowns (vs starters). No glimmer of hope.

Most years we at least get teased by a few nice drives or dazzled by a backup QB lighting it up vs third stringers.

This time around, we've had five preseason games and we appear to be getting worse as we go.

[BLeonard]

What. The. ****. Was. That. Goodwin...?

-Bill

[BLeonard]

Does Marrone have an earring hole...? Nothing against it, he just doesn't seem like the type to do that sort of thing.

-Bill

[sudzy]

Whaley should be fired if not signing a plan B at QB cost us all this season.

[Turf]

By three games into the season, I think Marrone is openly swilling bourbon on the sidelines.

That made me laugh. I was just about to do that.

[ServoBillieves]

What. The. ****. Was. That. Goodwin...?

-Bill

Payback for the fans booing. He was pretty butthurt by it IIRC

[Scumbag College]

Watching this is worse than wide awake penis surgery.

[Turf]

A new owner couldn't come at a better time. I just hope if its Pegula he doesn't make the same status quo mistake he did with the Sabres.

[ServoBillieves]

Watching this is worse than wide awake penis surgery.

Teeth on a chalkboard. Cringe-worthy.

[Mace]

This has been the saddest preseason I've ever witnessed.

The starting offense gave us nothing. No touchdowns (vs starters). No glimmer of hope.

Most years we at least get teased by a few nice drives or dazzled by a backup QB lighting it up vs third stringers.

This time around, we've had five preseason games and we appear to be getting worse as we go.

Oh, don't be such a negative Nancy, Mama. We held Orlovsky and Moore to to 17 points in the first half.

[JoeMama]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb153/idrow/02192004193413.jpg

"Just hook it to my veins!"

The only good thing that's happened during this lousy preseason is the Simpsons marathon on FXX.

I just switched over to it. Enough of this lousy game.

[Famous Amos]

Fans of good teams dont even bother watching the fourth preseason game. Ima have another beer.

[SpikedLemonade]

Moorman is averaging 37 yards on 6 punts.

He sucked last game as well.

Got to wonder if he is finished and they cut him.

[BLeonard]

A new owner couldn't come at a better time. I just hope if its Pegula he doesn't make the same status quo mistake he did with the Sabres.

At the very least, if Pegula becomes owner, chances are we'll never hear the phrase "cash to the cap" again... That alone is a plus.

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Moorman is averaging 37 yards on 6 punts.

He sucked last game as well.

Got to wonder if he is finished and they cut him.

Probably depends on what this kid does during the second half... You know, the boy wonder that had an 8 yard punt a couple weeks ago...

-Bill

[Mace]

Moorman is averaging 37 yards on 6 punts.

He sucked last game as well.

Got to wonder if he is finished and they cut him.

Might want to use him at Quarterback.

[SpikedLemonade]

TJ is dead man walking.

[Turf]

Why is Palmer staying in instead of giving Tuel reps.

[JoeMama]

My assessment five weeks in.

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[BLeonard]

Why is Palmer staying in instead of giving Tuel reps.

Hell, I'd worry about giving Manuel more reps.

-Bill

[Mace]

Why is Palmer staying in instead of giving Tuel reps.

Tuel is a proven commodity already. Haha, just kidding.

[Skooby]

Cutler said Palmer is going to spill all the Bears beans, awesome.

[paladin warrior]

what the heck going with Offensive. offensive is poor and cant projects QB. and Poor excuse QB coach :crap:

[SpikedLemonade]

More booing.

[BLeonard]

Cutler said Palmer is going to spill all the Bears beans, awesome.

Like it matters... Still gotta score points to win.

-Bill

[Mace]

More booing.

They'll be sorry when we win this game 108 to 17.

[BLeonard]

They'll be sorry when we win this game 108 to 17.

At this rate, I'll be surprised if the Bills score 108 points all season.

-Bill

[Skooby]

Like it matters... Still gotta score points to win.

-Bill

We have kickers for that.

[Mace]

Argh.

[swiper]

Worst offense ever.

[ServoBillieves]

Anyone else still watching? I kind of have it on background while playing a tablet game...

[SpikedLemonade]

20-0 at home against the Lions?

This is a new low.

[BLeonard]

I am seriously thinking about picking up the team defense of whoever plays the Bills each week in my fantasy leagues, whenever possible...

-Bill

[swiper]

TJ Graham is just a waste

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****ing tired of this ****.

[BLeonard]

TJ Graham is just a waste

We could probably say that about 45 or so of the final 53 that they keep, too.

-Bill

[SpikedLemonade]

I am seriously thinking about picking up the team defense of whoever plays the Bills each week in my fantasy leagues, whenever possible...

-Bill

Chicago's D will go undrafted.

I think I am going with the Steelers D at home against the Browns for week one.

[ServoBillieves]

TJ Graham is just a waste

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****ing tired of this ****.

What disturbs me is I've seen nothing of Easley... is that a good thing as in they're letting Graham try to prove something? he's doing a fantastic job of it.

[swiper]

We could probably say that about 45 or so of the final 53 that they keep, too.

-Bill

And Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley, Marrone and Hackett too.

[Turf]

This goddamn fake rollout handoff we do, did these morons notice, IT NEVER WORKS!!!! Just hand the ****ing ball off and run up the middle. This Hackett is a ****ing idiot.

[swiper]

Jordan Palmer? Are you ****ing kidding me? He blows.

[Mace]

Anyone else still watching? I kind of have it on background while playing a tablet game...

I am. I have a lot of beer left and I'm looking for a bat that got into the cellar and taunted me by doing airshow moves around my head out of the range of my cats, in between moments of disgust.

[SpikedLemonade]

Hackett is way over his head.

[ServoBillieves]

Kujo with the trip!

[SpikedLemonade]

Tripping penalty on our 2nd round bust pick.

[swiper]

Cyrus you blow

[SpikedLemonade]

Have we been on the Lions side of the field all game?

Perhaps that first drive?

[Mace]

Have we been on the Lions side of the field all game?

Perhaps that first drive?

Well look, with detroit continuing to call plays on offense, this was hardly fair.

[BLeonard]

What disturbs me is I've seen nothing of Easley... is that a good thing as in they're letting Graham try to prove something? he's doing a fantastic job of it.

Probably trying to showcase him to coax a trade.

-Bill

[Mace]

THAT Steve Freeman !

[stuckincincy]

The refs are keeping this game close. :kid:

[TacklingDummy]

Someone's still watching this crap? They got to be drunk.

[swiper]

Palmer just blows.

[Skooby]

Bears -12.

[Mace]

Someone's still watching this crap? They got to be drunk.

Nothing better to do looking for a bat with this much beer left.

[swiper]

Can Landon Cohen play QB?

[stuckincincy]

Bears -12.

O/U 13.

[ServoBillieves]

Finished with the game/preseason/trash.

Entering week 1 livin' on a prayer. Yeah, quoted Bon Jovi, THAT deflated heading in to the season.

[Mace]

Palmer just blows.

Not saying he's good but only had a couple days here.

[SpikedLemonade]

Someone's still watching this crap? They got to be drunk.

I'm trying.

I'm trying.

Interception!!!

I am rooting for a Lions shut out right now.

Whoever says this next week that it is only pre-season will be met with a F U from me.

The score does not count but how we have looked at home these past two games is highly relevant.

Hackett is an ignorant kuunt if he thinks this O will be better in the regular season because hsi play calling will be more complicated.

[BLeonard]

Palmer just blows.

He's not there to be in the game... He's there to be the player/coach for Manuel...

If he plays a down in the regular season, it's safe to say the Bills are ****ed anyway... They might be even if he doesn't.

-Bill

[SpikedLemonade]

Nothing better to do looking for a bat with this much beer left.

I have a lot of bat in the house experience.

What works best is a tennis racket.

Whack it hard out of the air and then use the racket to scoop it up and throw it out the window.

[Mace]

Whoever says this next week that it is only pre-season will be met with a F U from me.

It's only preseason.

[SpikedLemonade]

23-0.

LOL!!!!

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It's only preseason.

F U

[swiper]

He's not there to be in the game... He's there to be the player/coach for Manuel...

If he plays a down in the regular season, it's safe to say the Bills are ****ed anyway... They might be even if he doesn't.

-Bill

That's stupid.

A) He sucks himself.

B) Hire him as a coach, not a roster player.

[stuckincincy]

Anybody remember last season's "steal" - Da'Rick Rogers? Just scored a 4th qtr td for IND...then kicked the ball and got an unsportsmanlike conduct penaty.

[Mace]

I have a lot of bat in the house experience.

What works best is a tennis racket.

Whack it hard out of the air and then use the racket to scoop it up and throw it out the window.

I don't have one. Have a box and heavy gloves, and a lot of cellar. Comically it landed on the door frame next to my head when I had neither. We looked at each other. It snickered at me. I put my hands in my pockets and sighed. Lost him now.

[ServoBillieves]

I don't have one. Have a box and heavy gloves, and a lot of cellar. Comically it landed on the door frame next to my head when I had neither. We looked at each other. It snickered at me. I put my hands in my pockets and sighed. Lost him now.

He's just asking for it now.

[ServoBillieves]

3 interceptions.

Let's not play Tuel at all though.

[Mace]

He's just asking for it now.

I think he knows I was watching a Bills game with too much beer in the fridge.

[SpikedLemonade]

Palmer's 3rd interception!!!

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3 interceptions.

Let's not play Tuel at all though.

I don't get why Tuel did not play more today.

He needs the work.

[BLeonard]

That's stupid.

A) He sucks himself.

B) Hire him as a coach, not a roster player.

Didn't say it was the smartest move... Just saying, he's not there to be in a game situation.

-Bill

[paladin warrior]

Buffalo Bills are DOOM.. Hurry up !!! get a new owner and get rip all staff coach . QB coach , DEF coach . Offenvise coach My god .. ALL are poor trainer

[BLeonard]

Palmer's 3rd interception!!!

Well, to be fair, he has to catch up to the other Bills' QB's this preseason...

-Bill

[Skooby]

I turned this off about 10 minutes ago, simply brutal. Doug played it safe to not get Tuel hurt but playing a guy with hurt ribs is a great idea.

[Mace]

23-0.

F U

Thanks but I don't have time right now, I'm looking for a bat.

[BLeonard]

Buffalo Bills are DOOM.. Hurry up !!! get a new owner and get rip all staff coach . QB coach , DEF coach . Offenvise coach My god .. ALL are poor trainer

Well, according to sources earlier this year, Marrone and Whaley wanted to fire the trainer, but Littman, Overdorf and Brandon wouldn't let them...

-Bill

[ServoBillieves]

Exactly 1 other team played their starting QB this week. The Browns. Wonderful.

[stuckincincy]

The new punter booms one 33 yards for a fair catch on the 20...

[Mace]

Ok, we have them on the ropes now.

[Mace]

Exactly 1 other team played their starting QB this week. The Browns. Wonderful.

Browns have a starting QB ?

[paladin warrior]

Any word who going be a new Buffalo Bills Owners and when

[SpikedLemonade]

Browns have a starting QB ?

Possibly two.

Tell me there would not be a lot of excitement in Buffalo right now if we had Johnny Football on the roster.

[Buffalogic]

Is it too late to get Bon Jovi back in here and beg him to move the team so we aren't hopelessly attached to this horse**** any longer?

[Mace]

Any word who going be a new Buffalo Bills Owners and when

No. Will take a time yet. 30-60 days yet.

[stuckincincy]

That was a nice play...32 yard completion, defensive offsides declined by DET, horse collar penalty tacked on.

[Mace]

Possibly two.

Tell me there would not be a lot of excitement in Buffalo right now if we had Johnny Football on the roster.

He's not looking real good though.

[ServoBillieves]

I think we all learned a very valuable lesson here.

I am NOT to start the Gameday Threads anymore... We leave that up to MMD for karma.

[Mace]

I think we all learned a very valuable lesson here.

I am NOT to start the Gameday Threads anymore... We leave that up to MMD for karma.

I had a bad feeling when you did.

[Mace]

Well, they kept it close.

[paladin warrior]

OH MY GOD:crap: .. 30 or 60 days :sigh:

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Just think, in a few more weeks we get to lose to Detroit for real.

[Turf]

Was thinking the same thing, Orton would be our best QB. But the heck with that, we're sticking with EJ.

Can't help but feel some elation. How sad is that.