OK, so days prior to the start of the season, what is your record prediction for us?

[Fletch]

Two days out from the season opener and five days out from our opener in Chicago, what is your record prediction for us at this point in time?

And please, spare us the 16-0 and 15-1's, etc. and be serious.

I'm sticking to my 3-13 to 5-11 range. I can see 2-14 but it's so difficult to lose 14 games, not sure I see it even if only from an odds angle.

If Orton starts somewhat early in the season, something else I don't see happening, I can see this team maybe playing the equivalent of 6-10 (.375) ball the rest of the way.

Strengths: DL, OL, Fred Jackson, Woods

Weaknesses: Coaching, Secondary, Linebackers, QB, TE, rest of the RBs

[stuckincincy]

3 -11.

[Skooby]

10-6, Orton getting the starting nod thanks to a mysterious injury to EJ that can't be verified (pride).

[SpikedLemonade]

3 -11.

Using Better Days' calculator?

[HAMMER]

8-8

[stuckincincy]

Using Better Days' calculator?


No - hit a wrong key.

3 - 13.

[SpikedLemonade]

I started at 8-8 in May.

Went to 7-9 after Kiko's injury.

With the QB situation and the last 2 pre-season games, I have now dropped to 6-10 and leaning more and more to 5-11.

[Fletch]

Using Better Days' calculator?

LOL

[gebobs]

5-11

[trapezeus]

5-11, three years of 7-9, then 3 years of 6-10, it only makes sense.

[justasportsfan]

8-8.

[better days]

10-6 & playoffs.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

3 -11.

Partying like its 1975?

[swiper]

I started at 8-8 in May.

Went to 7-9 after Kiko's injury.

With the QB situation and the last 2 pre-season games, I have now dropped to 6-10 and leaning more and more to 5-11.

It depends on how much playing time Orton gets and how good he turns out being. Too difficult to call at this juncture. If Manuel starts all 16 games? The Bills win 3 or 4. Possibly as high as 5.

[tatersalad]

11-5 guys are defense is gonna be huge

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Lets see:

Lose to Chicago
Win against the Fish
Lose to the Bolts
Lose at Houston
Lose at Detroit and goodbye EJ hello Kyle
Lose to New England
Win against Minnesota
Lose in Joisy
Win vs. Chefs
Win at the Fishbowl
Win against the Brownies
Manning and the Ponies put up 60+
Lose to the Pack
Lose at the Raiduhs
Lose to the Pats

5-11, wash rinse repeat

[casdhf]

between 7-9 and 9-7. This coach/GM are working for their futures with a new owner. They'll pull the EJ plug to try and save themselves if need be.

[Fletch]

11-5 guys are defense is gonna be huge

Why do you say that?

What is it that makes you think that the D is going to be any good?

Just asking because I read that a lot in the media where talk is cheap, and many here seem to believe the same, but I'm just not seeing it. I see our back-7 being very poor against the pass this season. If you can't stop the pass in the modern NFL you're simply not going to win many games.

[Ed]

8-8

[Novacane]

11-5 guys are defense is gonna be huge



They'd have to be the 85 Bears.

6-10

[stuckincincy]

Partying like its 1975?

Scroll above and see my correction.

[Ed]

Lets see:

Lose to Chicago
Win against the Fish
Lose to the Bolts
Lose at Houston
Lose at Detroit and goodbye EJ hello Kyle
Lose to New England
Win against Minnesota
Lose in Joisy
Win vs. Chefs
Win at the Fishbowl
Win against the Brownies
Manning and the Ponies put up 60+
Lose to the Pack
Lose at the Raiduhs
Lose to the Pats

5-11, wash rinse repeat
You forgot the home game vs. the Jets.

[BillsOverDolphins]

6-10 is ALWAYS a good bet

[stuckincincy]

11-5 guys are defense is gonna be huge

How?


Same crowd minus Alonso that marched onward to a third straight 6 and 10 season.

[swiper]

Spikes learned how to throw from Brady.

[OpIv37]

I'm going with 5-11.

I think the ceiling is about 8-8 if EJ plays well and we don't have any significant injuries.

A couple of injuries and EJ being a complete bust could get us 2-14.

[ServoBillieves]

5-11. And that's coming from me, the eternal optimist.

[imbondz]

5-11

[better days]

How?


Same crowd minus Alonso that marched onward to a third straight 6 and 10 season.

A different DC & system & the addition of Spikes, Rivers & Brown at LB & a healthy Gilmore.

For starters.

[colin]

i have us going 10-6. D and run game step up, and whoever plays qb finds the playaction game and gets points.

yes, i am being overly optimistic. go bills

[Woodman]

9-7 if a few things fall into place, 7-9 if they don't.

[k-oneputt]

6-10 with EJ playing the whole season.

9-7 f they get Orton in soon enough.

[Mr. Pink]

5-11

[stuckincincy]

A different DC & system & the addition of Spikes, Rivers & Brown at LB & a healthy Gilmore.

For starters.

Why do you think DET got rid of Schwartz?

[Ed]

Why do you think DET got rid of Schwartz?
Because he didn't win enough games as a HC. He wasn't a DC in Detroit. Why did they hire him originally?

[Lone Stranger]

6-10 Can't win if you don't have a Q-back. Could be worse if, like the boys at WGR in the morning suggest that, EJ plays the whole season.

[better days]

Why do you think DET got rid of Schwartz?

Because they thought he was not a GOOD HC although he took an 0-16 team he inherited to the playoffs.

[BigZ]

6-10

[YardRat]

Somewhere between 6-10 and 9-7, although it wouldn't surprise me if they end up a game lower or higher.

I disagree oline is a strength, I think they and the uncertainty regarding what to expect from the QB position are the two biggest weaknesses the team has. I actually have a pretty good feeling about the Chicago game, but the defense is going to have to play lights out, the oline is going to have to help establish the running game somewhat consistently, and EJ/Orton can't throw or fumble the game away.

Somewhat forgotten over the preseason amid all the hyperventilating over the QB's has been the special teams...can't afford breakdowns, and need to make at least two plays that score, secure the ball, or establish/flip field position.

[jamze132]

5-10-1

[BillsImpossible]

11-5.

Not impossible.

[Albany,n.y.]

6-10. I hope I'm wrong by at least 4 wins.

[BertSquirtgum]

EJ starts all season 2-14

Orton starts after week 4.....8-8

[Historian]

I'll stick with 7-9.

That simply can't be as bad as they were in preseason.....right?

[Bill Cody]

9-7

[Bills Juggernaut]

I'm going 6-10. Four-peat baby!!!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Odd that I'm the optimist here, but I think we'll be 7-9. Our schedule is easier, Spiller's basically in a contract year, Jerry Hughes looks like the real deal, and I think Spikes will be quite good. Losing Byrd, Alonso, and Pettine is what will keep our defense out of the elite tier, but it should be enough to improve our overall record.

[Buckets]

With EJ at the helm 4 - 12

[Homegrown]

hope for the best, prepare for the worst

6-10

[Mace]

4 and 12, they seem lost and disorganized to me and will be the parts instead of the sum of them which is probably 8-8. If there is another pool I'd go in the middle at 6-10 to protect myself.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

I'll stick with 7-9.

That simply can't be as bad as they were in preseason.....right?

No. . . . They will be worse

[pmoon6]

Using Better Days' calculator?As opposed to the douchebag calculator of 80% of the so called Bills' Fans here.

Maybe I'll join the club and predict 0-14.

Oh wait....this isn't the '70's, is it?

[swiper]

As opposed to the douchebag calculator of 80% of the so called Bills' Fans here.

Maybe I'll join the club and predict 0-14.

Oh wait....this isn't the '70's, is it?

I wish it was. I miss those Bobby Chandler tip-toe to the sideline catches.

[Famous Amos]

I usually predict with my heart and hope to God that the Bills will turn the corner and reward me for my loyalty. I thought if we could just get past the Dick Jauron years, things will turn around. Then I thought once we'd get a QB that wouldn't check down for every throw, we'd turn it around. Then I thought once we got a blue chip talent at QB we'd turn it around. We'll ****, I'm out of hope.

3-13

[swiper]

I usually predict with my heart and hope to God that the Bills will turn the corner and reward me for my loyalty. I thought if we could just get past the Dick Jauron years, things will turn around. Then I thought once we'd get a QB that wouldn't check down for every throw, we'd turn it around. Then I thought once we got a blue chip talent at QB we'd turn it around. We'll ****, I'm out of hope.

3-13

You do realize that the Dick Jauron years were the BEST of the past ten years, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffalo_Bills_seasons


<tbody>


2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_season)
2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
3rd
5
11
0




2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_season)
2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
3rd
7
9
0




2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_season)
2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
2nd
7
9
0




2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_season)
2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
7
9
0




2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_season)
2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NFL_season)
2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
4
12
0




2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_season)
2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NFL_season)
2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_season)
2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NFL_season)
2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
3
13

</tbody>

[Dr. Who]

I wish it was. I miss those Bobby Chandler tip-toe to the sideline catches.

I thought you were some young punk, honestly. You must be a graybeard like me if you remember that.

I'm going with 10 - 6, btw. I think EJ will play well for the most part. It's possible all the pessimists are correct and the whole thing will implode. I prefer optimism, especially before the first game of the season.

[sudzy]

6-10
After starting 0-4 with EJ, Orton comes in a goes 6-6.
New owner comes in a burns the team to the ground and then we have some hope.

[Ingtar33]

L @ Chicago
W vs Miami
L vs San Diago
L @ Houston
L @ Detroit
L vs New England
L vs Minnesota
L @ NYJets
bye
W vs Cheifs
L @ Miami
W vs NYJets
W vs Cleveland
L @ Denver
L vs Green Bay
W @ Oakland
L @ New England

5-11

of course because we win 4 games after the bye people will head into the offseason thinking we "turned a corner" and argue around here that Marrone and company deserve another season. when in reality the most winnable games on our schedule are after the bye

[djjimkelly]

9-7 and EJ earns the job moving forward

[Mike]

Somewhere between 6-10 and 9-7, although it wouldn't surprise me if they end up a game lower or higher.

I disagree oline is a strength, I think they and the uncertainty regarding what to expect from the QB position are the two biggest weaknesses the team has. I actually have a pretty good feeling about the Chicago game, but the defense is going to have to play lights out, the oline is going to have to help establish the running game somewhat consistently, and EJ/Orton can't throw or fumble the game away.

Somewhat forgotten over the preseason amid all the hyperventilating over the QB's has been the special teams...can't afford breakdowns, and need to make at least two plays that score, secure the ball, or establish/flip field position.

Boy your going out on a limb... Might as well say anywhere between 0-16 and 16-0! Throw some IFs and Buts and you can Justify yourself when you Change you vote later in the season like better days

[Mike]

You do realize that the Dick Jauron years were the BEST of the past ten years, don't you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffalo_Bills_seasons


<tbody>


2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_season)
2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
3rd
5
11
0




2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_season)
2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
3rd
7
9
0




2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NFL_season)
2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
2nd
7
9
0




2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_season)
2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
7
9
0




2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_season)
2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NFL_season)
2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
4
12
0




2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_season)
2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NFL_season)
2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_season)
2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
6
10
0




2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NFL_season)
2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Buffalo_Bills_season)
NFL
AFC
East
4th
3
13

</tbody>

Fully!
I predicted it. That homers on this boards would look back and wish for DJ when they hired Chan Galley (sp)
Marone is even worste! Lol...and it was so obvious that it would go like this. It's like watching an apple fall from a tree.

[Mike]

Bills will finish somewhere between 1 and 10 wins. Most likely 4-12 but if Orton comes in and plays well and some other teams on our schedual implode we could be magically win 9 games. Stranger things have happened and I would bet on it. Worst case 1-15
Best case 10-6
Most likely 4-12

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

i say 5-11

[swiper]

Tomorrow @ ~ 4:35 pm:

http://www.bullshift.net/data/images/2014/02/hornoxe-hornoxe-com-gifdump86-11.gif

[Patti120]

6-10 or 5-11......optimism no longer exists until they prove otherwise so I'm going 5-11. Really hope I'm wrong! As fans We def. deserve a decent/ good, even a great season at this point!

[BertSquirtgum]

EJ starts all season 2-14

Orton starts after week 4.....8-8

Bump