Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

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  • Skooby
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

    In one fail swoop? If so, what does this means in terms of things we can do now that we weren't able to do before ?
  • Downinfloflo
    Victimizing The Victimizer
    • Aug 2012
    • 16584

    #2
    Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

    The NFL has a salary cap.

    So not much...

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    • BLeonard
      BoB Sabermetrician
      • Jan 2003
      • 4625

      #3
      Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
      The NFL has a salary cap.

      So not much...
      True... But there is no salary cap for Front Office Personnel, Coaching Staff, etc... In that aspect, it makes a big difference.

      -Bill

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      • jimmifli
        Registered User
        • Nov 2006
        • 7827

        #4
        Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

        Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
        The NFL has a salary cap.

        So not much...
        We haven't spent to the cap in over a decade. We consistently hire first time coaches, GMs and co-ordinators.

        Fixing those two shortcomings would have prevented a 14 year playoff drought.

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        • Downinfloflo
          Victimizing The Victimizer
          • Aug 2012
          • 16584

          #5
          Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

          Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
          True... But there is no salary cap for Front Office Personnel, Coaching Staff, etc... In that aspect, it makes a big difference.

          -Bill
          That will be Kim Pegulas show!!!

          I'm happy the team will stay in Buffalo...But Terry's wife playing football exec makes me nervous.

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          • BLeonard
            BoB Sabermetrician
            • Jan 2003
            • 4625

            #6
            Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

            Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
            That will be Kim Pegulas show!!!

            I'm happy the team will stay in Buffalo...But Terry's wife playing football exec makes me nervous.
            More nervous than Russ Brandon and the other ex-owner's cronies doing it? Because after 14 plus years, I'm personally ready for a change in that department...

            Also, as I said in other threads, my bet is, you'll never hear the term "cash to the cap" used again.

            -Bill
            Last edited by BLeonard; 09-09-2014, 02:28 PM.

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            • Downinfloflo
              Victimizing The Victimizer
              • Aug 2012
              • 16584

              #7
              Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

              Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
              More nervous than Russ Brandon and the other ex-owner's cronies doing it? Because after 14 plus years, I'm personally ready for a change in that department...

              Also, as I said in other threads, my bet is, you'll never hear the term "cash to the cap" used again.

              -Bill
              She's a rich guys wife.

              What's her football back round?

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              • Novacane
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 42355

                #8
                Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                That will be Kim Pegulas show!!!

                I'm happy the team will stay in Buffalo...But Terry's wife playing football exec makes me nervous.


                Don't worry about it. I heard she's won her fantasy league 3 years in a row!

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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525

                  #9
                  Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                  first, "one fell swoop"

                  second, the value of the team isn't based on the owner's overall wealth.

                  third, the pegulas went through a consultant to be positioned to win the bid and to have a packet that is desirable for the NFL. I would suspect, much like politics, if your guy is elected you go from campaign manager to chief of staff if you want it. i think if its terry or kim, they have a group of people who are advising them on who to hire and how to go about business based on their long career in football and pro sports.

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                  • BLeonard
                    BoB Sabermetrician
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4625

                    #10
                    Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                    Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                    She's a rich guys wife.

                    What's her football back round?
                    What was Russ Brandon's? What was Linda Bogdan's?

                    Maybe she'll be smart enough to hire football people and let them do their jobs, instead of hiring her daughter or the Florida Marlins marketing guy to run things.

                    -Bill

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                    • MitchMurrayDowntown
                      Skoobasaurus-Rex
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 22284

                      #11
                      Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                      After 14 years of pure crap, she can hire folks with better game plans.

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                      • Downinfloflo
                        Victimizing The Victimizer
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 16584

                        #12
                        Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                        Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                        What was Russ Brandon's? What was Linda Bogdan's?

                        Maybe she'll be smart enough to hire football people and let them do their jobs, instead of hiring her daughter or the Florida Marlins marketing guy to run things.

                        -Bill
                        That's the whole point!!!

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                        • Albany,n.y.
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5599

                          #13
                          Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                          Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
                          We haven't spent to the cap in over a decade. We consistently hire first time coaches, GMs and co-ordinators.

                          Fixing those two shortcomings would have prevented a 14 year playoff drought.
                          Actually, the problem with coaches was just the opposite before Marrone. We hired Jauron after the Lions had fired him from his DC/interim coaching job (and were recycling him from his Chicago HC days) and hired former Cowboys HC Gailey after he had been fired as OC of KC in preseason. Neither was a 1st time NFL head coach & both had been recently let go from lesser positions. So we had 7 of those 14 years with non-1st time head coaches.

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                          • WagonCircler
                            Escaped Convict
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5876

                            #14
                            Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                            Just like I had a feeling about Pegula while Ralph was still alive, I have a feeling about Bill Polian. C.E.O.

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                            • BLeonard
                              BoB Sabermetrician
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4625

                              #15
                              Re: Did we just go from bottom 3 to top 4 in wealth ?

                              Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                              That's the whole point!!!
                              Let me put it this way:

                              Back in 2010, when the Bills were looking for a head coach, we heard all these rumors about Brandon meeting with Mike Shanahan and Bill Cowher and how the ex-owner was willing to pay $10 million for a head coach... We ended up with Chan Gailey.

                              Personally, I laughed at the whole thing, because I knew there was little to no chance that a Shanahan or Cowher would be the next head coach, nor did I believe that the ex-owner would pay $10 million for a head coach.

                              Now, if I hear a story like this with Pegula as the owner, I'm much more inclined to believe it.

                              -Bill

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