This is NOT a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

[Guest]

Edit -- This is NOT a Play-off team.

I think many of you are so desperate to make the play-offs again, that you are convincing yourself that our only problem is QB play.

The rest of this team is not play-off worthy.

If we started Orton in Detroit, the best this team could be with this schedule is 7-9 or 8-8.

More importantly, we would have made a permanent decision on EJ with no good game plan for next year.

Are we really going to go with Orton for this year and next year?

Give EJ the 4 games until the bye week and let's see if we are 2-6 or 3-5.

I don't want this coaching staff just doing enough to get to 8-8 in order to save their jobs for another year.

[Buffalogic]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

You are an idiot.

[Guest]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

You are an idiot.

Thank you.

Now I know I am right.

[coastal]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

You are an idiot.

Highly productive.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Excluding the QB, who are the six teams better than us? Cincy and Denver are obvious, but after that it gets really murky.

[The Jokeman]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Excluding the QB, who are the six teams better than us? Cincy and Denver are obvious, but after that it gets really murky.

Welcome to NFL parity. The Bills might have moved themselves from a bottom 10 NFL team to a mid 10-20 team which I guess is a step in the right direction.

[Guest]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Excluding the QB, who are the six teams better than us? Cincy and Denver are obvious, but after that it gets really murky.

Look at the schedule we face over the next 4 games.

At Detroit -- loss

Patriots -- loss

Vikings -- look different with Bridgewater -- coin flip

At NYJ -- coin flip


I would say the Patriots, Ravens, Colts, Texans and Chargers are better than us as well.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Edit -- This is NOT a Play-off team.

I think many of you are so desperate to make the play-offs again, that you are convincing yourself that our only problem is QB play.

The rest of this team is not play-off worthy.

If we started Orton in Detroit, the best this team could be with this schedule is 7-9 or 8-8.

More importantly, we would have made a permanent decision on EJ with no good game plan for next year.

Are we really going to go with Orton for this year and next year?

Give EJ the 4 games until the bye week and let's see if we are 2-6 or 3-5.

I don't want this coaching staff just doing enough to get to 8-8 in order to save their jobs for another year.

Nope, give EJ until week 6 if he can't get out of this slump. A month long slump is bad enough and his litmus test will be how he plays against what looks like a very vulnerable Pats team.

[Novacane]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

The NFL is full of flawed teams. This team can compete with those flawed teams if it gets competent QB play. I'd like to at least see if Orton is competent. If he sucks you can put EJ back in.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Excluding the QB, who are the six teams better than us? Cincy and Denver are obvious, but after that it gets really murky.

San Diego
Baltimore
Houston
Indy
NE (until proven different)
KC

Bills on par with teams...
Pitts
NJJ
Miami
Oakland
Jags
Cleveland
Tenn

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Look at the schedule we face over the next 4 games.

At Detroit -- loss

Patriots -- loss

Vikings -- look different with Bridgewater -- coin flip

At NYJ -- coin flip


I would say the Patriots, Ravens, Colts, Texans and Chargers are better than us as well.

At Detroit, that's a coin flip too. Sure they beat Green Bay, but Green Bay is awful this year. With the Pats, yeah that's a sure loss, even though they don't look as hot as they have in years past, father time may finally be catching up with Marsha, Vikings, they are not doing so hot, and we should win that one, at Jets, Geno and EJ are on the same sheet. Really, if EJ doesn't get us wins against Detroit and Minnesota -I do give him a fair pass v. the Pats because I never really expect us to beat the cheaties any more than I expect the Spanish Inquisition - then we gotta end that experiment immediately.

[yordad]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

San Diego
Baltimore
Houston
Indy
NE (until proven different)
KC

Bills on par with teams...
Pitts
NJJ
Miami
Oakland
Jags
Cleveland
Tenn

Houston is not more talented. No Way. We win that game on the road by 20+ with an even average QB.
Baltimore, Indy, and NE? Let me ask you... if we have a standout QB, do we beat those teams? I think we do more times than not.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

Look at the schedule we face over the next 4 games.

At Detroit -- loss

Patriots -- loss

Vikings -- look different with Bridgewater -- coin flip

At NYJ -- coin flip


I would say the Patriots, Ravens, Colts, Texans and Chargers are better than us as well.

Outside of their QBs, which is what I said, the Colts, and Texans are not better than us. What part of the Colts scares you outside of Andrew Luck? Is it Trent Richardson (lol)? Is it their defense, without its only two elite players from last year?

The Texans? We outplayed them in their own building and had the game-winning points literally handed to them by Manuel.

This is a playoff team if we had even league-average quarterbacking.

San Diego
Baltimore
Houston
Indy
NE (until proven different)
KC

Bills on par with teams...
Pitts
NJJ
Miami
Oakland
Jags
Cleveland

KC is already down their best defender from last year and Charles is pla ying hurt.

This is the weakest AFC in years.

[HAMMER]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

[/QUOTE]Houston is not more talented. No Way. We win that game on the road by 20+ with an even average QB.[QUOTE]

Gimme a break man, I can only imagine how bad it would have been yesterday if Clowney had played. Fitz is far better than Manuel, the Texans D is better than the Bills. Foster is the best RB on either roster. Johnson is the best receiver of the lot.

You must be huffing glue again.

[casdhf]

Re: This is the a Play-off Team Even With Orton Under Center

If we had a QB that could complete a 15-yard pass, we would be 3-1 with a good shot at 4-0. Granted, EJ has made some plays that maybe a guy like Orton cannot, but those are few and far between.