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DesertFox24
10-01-2014, 09:33 AM
Anyone have any news on or sees anything on Twitter please post will be Internet dark for awhile and am on west coast anyway.

Fletch
10-01-2014, 09:39 AM
Asking the same thing before you posted this. I don't know why the results of an MRI on Monday aren't known by now. They should have been out yesterday.

Usually they wait this long to release it if the news is bad.

Skooby
10-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Asking the same thing before you posted this. I don't know why the results of an MRI on Monday aren't known by now. They should have been out yesterday.

Usually they wait this long to release it if the news is bad.

Bad news travels faster.

Fletch
10-01-2014, 09:44 AM
Let's hope so. I'm thinking that if he were fine they'd have said so by now and said he's questionable for Sunday.

If Kyle's got a season ending knee injury then in the other thread talking about what we have to build on, if Kyle's out for the season then he won't be 100% next season at 32. Pending Dareus' status I think we could then add DT to our issues list.

Kyle's a beast, losing him on the DL is like losing Alonso at LB.

The Jokeman
10-01-2014, 09:58 AM
Bad news travels faster.

Not for the Bills. As the Bills website is one of the slowest it seems to deliver news/stories. Yet you'd think one of the national guys (see Rappaport or Schefter) would have reported something if there was any news to report so who knows. I'm hoping it's good news as an injury to Kyle Williams could make the chance of winning tough as while think we tend to over rate him he is still an above average player at his position. An injury to Bradham does hurt too but let's not forget the defense was decent in Week 1 without him.

Fletch
10-01-2014, 10:04 AM
I'm hoping it's good news as an injury to Kyle Williams could make the chance of winning tough as while think we tend to over rate him he is still an above average player at his position.

Why do you think that he's just average?

It's funny, I was just thinking the opposite, that he's one of the best DT's that we've ever had. Pat Williams was another fairly recent one.

Where am I off?

The Jokeman
10-01-2014, 10:12 AM
Why do you think that he's just average?

It's funny, I was just thinking the opposite, that he's one of the best DT's that we've ever had. Pat Williams was another fairly recent one.

Where am I off?
I said above average. I think he's helped a lot playing with Dareus and Mario. As to me Kyle is at his best pushing the pocket and pursing the QB. Yet you ask him to stand pat and clog the lane he isn't as reliable. Also I don't see him athletic enough to say run down the line and stop a back from turning the corner. As of the three Dareus, Mario and Kyle that's how I'd rank them in terms of value for this team and importance. Again he's above average but not the best thing we have on the D-line which imagine most others do.

Fletch
10-01-2014, 10:33 AM
Problem with Dareus is that 10% of the time he's fantastic, 40% of the time he's simply good/average, and 50% of the time you don't even know whether he's in the game or not.

Not much different with Mario. You don't hear **** for three games about Mario then he has a bunch of sacks, pressures, and other contributions in two games, usually not against our toughest offensive opponents. Kyle's name several times.

Last season everyone was talking about how Mario came back, but of his 13 sacks 4 and a half of them were in one game against a QB playing miserably and three were against Miami, 2 vs. Cleveland. Mario needs to step up more in big games.

Dareus just needs to step up more period.

Kyle as a DT was less than 3 sacks behind Mario. 3 and a half were against Brady, Brees, and Roeth. That's saying quite a bit, especially since that's Mario's specialty.

I'm not sure you caught it, but last season one of those stat sites, I forget which one, had Mario rated as the worst Bills linemen at "setting the edge" as they like to say.

I don't know what it means since I've never played Madden, but Kyle is rated 4th best DT by them. http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news/2014/defensive-tackle-player-ratings

Pro Football Focus:


Kyle Williams, DT, +7.8

Breakdown: Before Marcel Dareus arrived Kyle Williams was a regular at this kind of performance. Here he broke out one of his better games, powering through or swimming around the Chargers offensive line like they weren’t there all game long. Was unlucky not to be rewarded with a sack.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/22/refo-chargers-bills-week-3/


Pro Football Focus ranks both (https://www.profootballfocus.com/data/cstats.php?tab=by_team&season=2013&teamid=4&stats=d&stype=r&pre=REG&playerid=) Dareus and Williams in the top 10 at their respective positions against the run.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2186562-how-the-chicago-bears-offense-matches-up-with-the-buffalo-bills-defense

This does not seem to agree with your assessment.

Skooby
10-01-2014, 10:49 AM
Neither are practicing today, per Joe B.

Skooby
10-01-2014, 11:05 AM
Kyle Williams, Chris Williams, Nigel Bradham & Marcus Easley out of practice

Skooby
10-01-2014, 11:10 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By4AEQOCUAAz_D1.jpg:large

streetkings01
10-01-2014, 11:17 AM
I'm guessing both players miss the Detroit game and maybe more like 4-8 weeks minimum.

THATHURMANATOR
10-01-2014, 11:20 AM
What do you base that timeframe on streetkings?

Skooby
10-01-2014, 12:05 PM
Goodwin was back today.

streetkings01
10-01-2014, 12:18 PM
What do you base that timeframe on streetkings?Just a hunch from watching players carted off the field or failure to return to games after suffering knee injuries. From all my years of watching football I've never seen a guy leave a game with a knee injury and return the next week..........a knee injury to a football player is never good news. I could be wrong tho........I dont think I will be.

HAMMER
10-01-2014, 12:38 PM
None of you have a clue, quit the uninformed speculation please.

Yasgur's Farm
10-01-2014, 12:42 PM
Just a hunch from watching players carted off the field or failure to return to games after suffering knee injuries. From all my years of watching football I've never seen a guy leave a game with a knee injury and return the next week..........a knee injury to a football player is never good news. I could be wrong tho........I dont think I will be.Fred Jackson 2 years ago.

THATHURMANATOR
10-01-2014, 12:55 PM
Just a hunch from watching players carted off the field or failure to return to games after suffering knee injuries. From all my years of watching football I've never seen a guy leave a game with a knee injury and return the next week..........a knee injury to a football player is never good news. I could be wrong tho........I dont think I will be.

Neither were carted off though.

Both walked off by themselves. Kyle jogging even.

Ed
10-01-2014, 01:02 PM
I think that if either of them had season ending injuries they would already be on IR so that they could use their roster spots. That may just be wishful thinking, but usually when guys have season ending knee injuries it's known/reported fairly quickly.

stuckincincy
10-01-2014, 01:08 PM
I think that if either of them had season ending injuries they would already be on IR so that they could use their roster spots. That may just be wishful thinking, but usually when guys have season ending knee injuries it's known/reported fairly quickly.

Yep. Clubs generally report injuries on Thursdays, IIRC, but if it's a big one they let the news be known soon.

Night Train
10-01-2014, 01:52 PM
Today is the first day of practice for the week. You'll hear a status of participation soon.

Night Train
10-01-2014, 02:01 PM
They didn't practice today. Status coming later.

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2014/10/buffalo_bills_injury_report_ni.html

streetkings01
10-01-2014, 02:18 PM
Neither were carted off though.

Both walked off by themselves. Kyle jogging even.Bradham was carted off.

https://twitter.com/IDPManor/status/516444188066721792

The severity of both injuries are unknown to this point, but Bradham was carted off the field.
http://www.wgr550.com/Observations-Texans-23-Bills-17/9034669?pid=429796

streetkings01
10-01-2014, 02:24 PM
Fred Jackson 2 years ago.Fred missed the next 2 games against KC and Cleveland.......he had to wear a brace the rest of the season.

JohnnyGold
10-01-2014, 06:32 PM
https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/517357866542698496

word is Williams out for a few weeks...

streetkings01
10-01-2014, 08:10 PM
https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/517357866542698496

word is Williams out for a few weeks...
Exactly what I said smh