The coyotes were a phone call away from seattle.

[JATMtheJATM]

http://deadspin.com/the-coyotes-were-damned-close-to-moving-to-seattle-1643791488?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

they had literally hired the moving trucks and were on standby when the glendale city council dropped the ball.

[JATMtheJATM]

as it stands, they wont stay in arizona long. the lease is terminated if the team loses 50 million in 5 years. last year alone, they supposedly lost 24 million.

this is why expansion talks have stalled, i believe. with expansion, they can take their sweet ass time negotiating an arena deal (no way the NHL moves into key arena unless they have to. they wont have to if an expansion team comes about. theyll let them build the arena then come in, or play a single season at key.)

the saga in the desert is far from over.

[JATMtheJATM]

Florida had 11,419 at their home opener. They are not going to survive.

[SpikedLemonade]

Seattle is not going to put a shovel in the ground to build a new arena until they secure a NBA team. They want both a NHL and NBA team but will not build a new arena just for a NHL team.

Arizona improved their ownership recently with a new partner.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

The NHL doesn't have a ton of leverage here, I think. I can't think of too many hockey-starved markets.

[Ginger Vitis]

I can't think of too many hockey-starved markets.

Quebec City... Hamilton.. Another team in the GTA

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Quebec City... Hamilton.. Another team in the GTA

I should have added "in the US" but you are right that Canada will always be hockey starved. That said, of those only the GTA is a larger market than Phoenix, and it already has a team. The NHL is getting killed in ratings in the US. It's a regional league, and regional leagues don't get to hold cities hostage for stadiums.

[JATMtheJATM]

Seattle is not going to put a shovel in the ground to build a new arena until they secure a NBA team. They want both a NHL and NBA team but will not build a new arena just for a NHL team.

Arizona improved their ownership recently with a new partner.

except they can still terminate their lease if they lose 50 mil in 5 years. they last 24 mil last year alone.

at some point, you are going to have to call a spade a spade.

[JATMtheJATM]

http://arizonasports.com/43/1841288/City-of-Glendale-cancels-lease-agreement-with-Arizona-Coyotes

Here we go again!!!

[chernobylwraiths]

Has Las Vegas started building their arena yet?

[JATMtheJATM]

Has Las Vegas started building their arena yet?

yes. its about half done.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBm57uOUsAANm6_.jpg:large

thats from early april. so its even further along.

[Dude]

<img src="http://www.trbimg.com/img-55270ebd/turbine/la-tr-lvn-las-vegas-arena-20150409"/>

[JATMtheJATM]

See?

[Dude]

Seems to be overkill for a few boxing matches a year. Las Vegas can't support an NHL franchise.

[JATMtheJATM]

Seems to be overkill for a few boxing matches a year. Las Vegas can't support an NHL franchise.

i think UNLVs basketball program will move there, maybe the ECHL team they have as well.

[Dude]

Why would they move from the T&M Center? The state just approved $57.3 million to renovate it, I can't see them moving UNLV games.

[JATMtheJATM]

Why would they move from the T&M Center? The state just approved $57.3 million to renovate it, I can't see them moving UNLV games.

i wouldnt be shocked if they use both arenas, like uconn uses their home arena, and the old civic center

[Ginger Vitis]

Gary Bettman on the Glendale city council " If I lived in Glendale Id be concerned about my government" " If this is how Glendale does business I think they will have far more problems than dealing with the Coyotes"

[Dude]

i wouldnt be shocked if they use both arenas, like uconn uses their home arena, and the old civic centerBut what benefit is that to UNLV? The campus is right off the strip, and the T&M Center holds ~19,000. The new arena is about a mile away and holds 20,000. UConn's campus is in Mansfield, and the Civic Center is in Hartford - 30 miles difference. It's to UConn's advantage to have games in a more populous area because campus is in the middle of nowhere.

It makes no sense for UNLV to move any games there given the revenue they'd give up in the process.

[JATMtheJATM]

But what benefit is that to UNLV? The campus is right off the strip, and the T&M Center holds ~19,000. The new arena is about a mile away and holds 20,000. UConn's campus is in Mansfield, and the Civic Center is in Hartford - 30 miles difference. It's to UConn's advantage to have games in a more populous area because campus is in the middle of nowhere.

It makes no sense for UNLV to move any games there given the revenue they'd give up in the process.

im just spitballing here. i knew UNLV had an oldish arena, i had no idea they were renovating it. still, youd have to imagine that UNLV will utilize the arena in some way. perhaps future tournament bids (they like new arenas, and generally not college ones anymore)

[Dude]

Maybe. They've never hosted a tournament game though, likely due to the gambling. I'm actually perplexed why a new arena is being built at all in that location. Makes no sense.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Vegas can events there even if they don't have a team. They already hosted the NBA all star game in Vegas, for one thing.

It was built with private money though, so if it sits empty for large chunks of the year it's no skin off anyone's back except the owners.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Olbermann...Nurse Pearson, The Coyotes #1 Fan



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNMprCFr4s

[JATMtheJATM]

that lady is an idiot. shes not even a glendale resident. so its not her money keeping a failing team afloat, its others. which also makes her statement "we voted you in" a lie as well.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Coyotes hired Ron Rolston head coach today as head coach for their AHL franchise in Springfield and guess who the GM is yep it's Darcy. :roflmao:
From NBC Sports Talk for Android:

Ron Rolston named head coach of Springfield Falcons
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/18/ron-rolston-named-head-coach-of-springfield-falcons/

[JATMtheJATM]

http://deadspin.com/report-says-coyotes-are-moving-to-vegas-but-nhl-calls-1715093618?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[swiper]

http://deadspin.com/report-says-coyotes-are-moving-to-vegas-but-nhl-calls-1715093618?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

The league and the team seem pretty adamant that this story is untrue.

[JATMtheJATM]

I didn't say the story was true.

[swiper]

What was the point of posting it then?

[JATMtheJATM]

What was the point of posting it then?

because it was a pretty big story last night? so people can read it?

[swiper]

Doesn't seem like it was either true or that big. It was posted by one newspaper known for sensationalism and not backed up by anyone. Kinda like spam.

[JATMtheJATM]

Doesn't seem like it was either true or that big. It was posted by one newspaper known for sensationalism and not backed up by anyone. Kinda like spam.

spam like whining about posts and threads? good god man, get over it.