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ghz in pittsburgh
10-19-2014, 02:45 PM
But he has his place in Buffalo Bills. Will have trouble with big receivers or TEs, but is always a good coverage guy and as he ages, seems to be able to get his hands on balls more and more.

So far this season, you have to say he's most consistent secondary player of the Bills.

SpikedLemonade
10-19-2014, 02:48 PM
Leodis may not be a star but he is a motivational speaker...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMADJcimnds

streetkings01
10-19-2014, 03:17 PM
Our corners suck period

SpikedLemonade
10-19-2014, 03:21 PM
Our corners suck period

We are not drafting them high enough.

They need to to be top 5 picks rather than top 15.

pmoon6
10-19-2014, 03:55 PM
Our corners suck period:rofl:

Don't Panic
10-19-2014, 04:07 PM
Sad that Leodis is our best CB, but to his credit he has been serviceable and definitely deserves a game ball today.

coastal
10-19-2014, 04:11 PM
But he has his place in Buffalo Bills. Will have trouble with big receivers or TEs, but is always a good coverage guy and as he ages, seems to be able to get his hands on balls more and more.

So far this season, you have to say he's most consistent secondary player of the Bills.
For the past three seasons... I like McMables.

pmoon6
10-19-2014, 04:14 PM
Well, considering the rules, it's pretty hard to play corner in today's NFL. Richard Sherman got smoked by Dez Bryant multiple times last week. Revis doesn't because he's Revis and now he plays for New England and will rarely see a flag.

djjimkelly
10-19-2014, 04:44 PM
mckelvin is a very solid corner in this league dont care what anyone says he makes plays he gets burnt too in my books his positives severely outweigh the negatives

SpikedLemonade
10-19-2014, 04:47 PM
I suggested to Coach Sal that McKelvin would make an excellent guest this week on one of his WGR shows.

Ask him a few philosophy questions as well.

YardRat
10-19-2014, 05:16 PM
Gilmore is still the most consistent corner, and Graham should still be starting. McKelvin is as hot and cold as it gets.

coastal
10-19-2014, 05:33 PM
Gilmore is still the most consistent corner, and Graham should still be starting. McKelvin is as hot and cold as it gets.
What are you watching exactly?

Crisis
10-19-2014, 05:35 PM
Gillmore is consistent in the sense that he's always awful.

YardRat
10-19-2014, 05:47 PM
Gilmore doesn't get thrown at nearly as much as McKelvin, Robey, or even Graham when he is in there...there's a reason for that.

Buffalogic
10-19-2014, 05:48 PM
Gilmore looked really bad on a few plays today. No doubt about that.

Don't Panic
10-19-2014, 06:06 PM
Gilmore has a lot of work to do if he wants to be a #1 corner in this league. I still think he has the talent to get there but he's gotta put it all together.

ghz in pittsburgh
10-19-2014, 06:21 PM
Graham is not nearly as good a corner as he showed in the first couple of weeks. With the safety situation we are in now, it may be best to play him at safety

streetkings01
10-19-2014, 08:48 PM
My thoughts on Gilmore........

He's far from a shutdown corner but he can contain your top reciever to the point he doesn't go totally off for like 10
catchea 150+ yards and 2 scores. He'll keep
a teams best reciever to under 100 yards and a score. So bottom line is we need a shutdown corner opposite him and we're straight.

ICRockets
10-19-2014, 09:07 PM
Gilmore looked lost out there today. As long as that remains the case, Leodis has a place on this defense.

Dr. Lecter
10-19-2014, 09:09 PM
Gilmore doesn't get thrown at nearly as much as McKelvin, Robey, or even Graham when he is in there...there's a reason for that.
To be as polite as I can be

You're nuts

Robey has been terrible this year. Just terrible

McKelvin has been, by damn wide margin, the Bills best corner. And is actually a pretty good corner.

He is the least of the Bills problems

YardRat
10-19-2014, 10:25 PM
To be as polite as I can be

You're nuts

Robey has been terrible this year. Just terrible

McKelvin has been, by damn wide margin, the Bills best corner. And is actually a pretty good corner.

He is the least of the Bills problems

I didn't say anything , really, about Robey, except he gets thrown at more often than Gilmore. Gilmore, weekly, gets burnt for a TD or at least a big first down. He hasn't been lit up as bad as McKelvin, though (who had a really good game this week, as opposed to horrendous last week, thus the hot and cold description).

Historian
10-20-2014, 05:59 AM
I think McKelvin has been great this year, and Gilmore a big disappointment, although he played better yesterday.

Throw in his special teams contributions and he may be the Bills M I P.

Historian
10-20-2014, 05:59 AM
Ask him a few philosophy questions as well.

Leodis, what's the value of pi?

"Uhh...pumpkin?"

Forward_Lateral
10-20-2014, 06:08 AM
Gilmore and Robey have been down right awful.

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Aaron Williams stunk yesterday as well. If his hand is going to prevent him from tackling, WTF is the point of having him out there?

Crisis
10-21-2014, 01:12 AM
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Aaron Williams stunk yesterday as well. If his hand is going to prevent him from tackling, WTF is the point of having him out there?

To not have Duke Williams in there.

Fletch
10-21-2014, 06:24 AM
Sad that Leodis is our best CB, but to his credit he has been serviceable and definitely deserves a game ball today.

I don't know if he's our best, I'd still put Gilmore as our best. You can't just go by INTs.

McKelvin seems to have improved somewhat over this and last season, still, he's not above average and he sucked as a cover corner for the first six (or however many) seasons he's been here prior to that. He's been kept on for his return skills.

Graham's OK, I'm familiar with him in Baltimore. He's inconsistent, has some really good games then disappears for a bunch. Low-end starter there.

All in all the CBs aren't a huge liability, the LBs are worse against the pass. Which shouldn't come to anyone as a surprise.

Safeties are weak.

swiper
10-25-2014, 05:52 PM
McKelvin leads the NFL in INTS.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

Woodman
10-25-2014, 08:03 PM
I have no problem with Leodis he's playing pretty good lately, hopefully that can continue.

pmoon6
10-26-2014, 04:35 AM
Fletch, what's the value of pi?

3.1415, the same as my IQ."

The Natrix
10-26-2014, 02:29 PM
LEE-OH-DUS

That was pretty much an INT for the most part.

imbondz
10-26-2014, 02:35 PM
I can never forgive McKelvin for that MNF fumble in 2009. He'd have to single handedly win a playoff game for me to I think.