A slightly interesting stat

[Dr. Lecter]

Not sure if it means anything - in fact it might be meaningless.

The Bills are 6th in the NFL in strength of victory.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true

So I guess they are not only beating crap teams

[justasportsfan]

I still can't believe we lost to Fitz

[Mace]

I still can't believe we lost to Fitz

More like we lost to the Houston JJ Watts, but I can go along with that.

[Mr. Pink]

The Lions are the only team they've beaten with a winning record so far.

[BuffaloRedleg]

The Lions are the only team they've beaten with a winning record so far.

There are a lot of teams that I bet are in that boat seeing what the NFL is like.

For example, Seattle has only beat 1 more team than us with a winning record.

If you don't include us (who you must think are terrible), the Patriots have only beat 1 team with a winning record, and that team is only 3-2-1 because of a stupid tie (the Bengals).

I might be wrong, but I think Green Bay has yet to beat a team with a winning record.

I'm not saying we are as good as those teams, but I'm saying that what you are saying is irrelevant.

[DynaPaul]

The Cowboys must have the weakest. They're 6 - 1 and only beat Seattle.

[Fletch]

Not sure if it means anything - in fact it might be meaningless.

The Bills are 6th in the NFL in strength of victory.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true

So I guess they are not only beating crap teams

So do you think that it would have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult to have beaten the Lions if Bell, Bush, and Calvin Johnson had played?

[better days]

So do you think that it would have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult to have beaten the Lions if Bell, Bush, and Calvin Johnson had played?

It does not matter, the win is in the books.

Good teams win when they play teams that are weakened by injuries.

The Pats* have done that for years.

[BuffaloRedleg]

So do you think that it would have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult to have beaten the Lions if Bell, Bush, and Calvin Johnson had played?

Would we have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult if we had Kiko Alonso playing?

It's football kid, people get injured all the time, and it's never an excuse.

The Lions beat the Saints with essentially the same roster. So thanks for playing bye.

[Fletch]

Would we have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult if we had Kiko Alonso playing?

It's football kid, people get injured all the time, and it's never an excuse.

The Lions beat the Saints with essentially the same roster. So thanks for playing bye.

Really? You're actually complaining about our injury situation which until now has been about the best in the league? Seriously? One significant player to date. Lions were missing a whole lot more than that, those were just the key players.

Nice of you to answer the question though. I realize that it's a toughie and I wouldn't want to see smoke coming out of your ears, so probably best you don't tax your grapenut sized brain on that one.

[EricStratton]

When did Reggie Bush and Joigue Bell become difference makers?

[better days]

Well, here is an interesting stat....The Jets are giving up 26.3 points per game this season.

Not only the most points they have given up with Rex as HC, but the most they have given up since 1996 when they gave up 28.4 points per game.

[Fletch]

When did Reggie Bush and Joigue Bell become difference makers?

What you're implying here is that there would have been no difference between having Bush and Bell in there rather than having had George Winn.

Is that it?

I couldn't help but notice that you failed to mention the biggest one of the three, Calvin Johnson.

[EricStratton]

What you're implying here is that there would have been no difference between having Bush and Bell in there rather than having had George Winn.

Is that it?

I couldn't help but notice that you failed to mention the biggest one of the three, Calvin Johnson.



I didn't question if Calvin is a difference maker because he is a difference maker, the two running backs are average players who were replaced by another average player

[THATHURMANATOR]

I like that Stat Lecter.

Now lets beat a **** team this weekend!

[BuffaloRedleg]

Really? You're actually complaining about our injury situation which until now has been about the best in the league? Seriously? One significant player to date. Lions were missing a whole lot more than that, those were just the key players.

Nice of you to answer the question though. I realize that it's a toughie and I wouldn't want to see smoke coming out of your ears, so probably best you don't tax your grapenut sized brain on that one.

You are not understanding the point. I'm not complaining at all. I'm saying that all teams have injuries all the time and that is not an acceptable excuse for either side. I never accept injury as an excuse for the Bills, ever.

Anyways, you don't think it matters that the Lions beat the Saints with essentially the same roster? I think that is a crucial point that you ignored and it pretty much sinks your entire argument.

It's called comparative analysis. Keeps people from just cherry picking information to make a predetermined point. You know, like you always do.

[Ed]

Really? You're actually complaining about our injury situation which until now has been about the best in the league? Seriously? One significant player to date. Lions were missing a whole lot more than that, those were just the key players.

Nice of you to answer the question though. I realize that it's a toughie and I wouldn't want to see smoke coming out of your ears, so probably best you don't tax your grapenut sized brain on that one.
Kyle Williams and Nigel Bradham both missed the Detroit game, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge this for some reason.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Kyle Williams and Nigel Bradham both missed the Detroit game, but you don't seem to want to acknowledge this for some reason.

When we win it is because of the other team was injured or luck, when we lose it is because we suck.

[Fletch]

I didn't question if Calvin is a difference maker because he is a difference maker, the two running backs are average players who were replaced by another average player

Again, so you're equating George Winn with Reggie Bush and Joique Bell, right?

I wouldn't argue that Bell and Bush are very average, but you're arguing now that a RB that was on 3 teams last season, primarily if not exclusively practice squads, and one that has 16 carries for 64 yards and 0 TDs, primarily in one game against us, is an average NFL RB?

Is that correct?

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Well, here is an interesting stat....The Jets are giving up 26.3 points per game this season.

Not only the most points they have given up with Rex as HC, but the most they have given up since 1996 when they gave up 28.4 points per game.

We shouldn't have any difficulty scoring at least 24 points then, right?

[Fletch]

Would we have been A, more difficult, B, less difficult, or C, equally difficult if we had Kiko Alonso playing?

It's football kid, people get injured all the time, and it's never an excuse.

The Lions beat the Saints with essentially the same roster. So thanks for playing bye.

You're right, they do get injured all the time. But to suggest that losing Kiko is like another team having 15 players on their injury list, with over half of their skill position players on offense, is the same thing, isn't really being honest in the sense of assessing the situations, is it?

We've had one of the lightest injury lists all season long. Even now it's not as bad as many teams. Don't equate poor planning with injuiries. Spiller and Jackson weren't doing much. Spiller because he's an overrated role player and Jackson because his days are now gone.

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When we win it is because of the other team was injured or luck, when we lose it is because we suck.

That's called showing up to an Tapout fight with an apron and a spatula.

Is that really your best?

[EricStratton]

Is that correct?



Yup.

[trapezeus]

fletch, what would help your case is acknowledging when other bring something to the table and maybe dealing with those facts. but sticking to your 5 talking points seems to just make you a politician. doesn't really know the issue, but knows what they are supposed to say about it and repeat it all the time.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

It doesn't make you any less of a man to openly admit when you're wrong instead of ignoring facts that weaken your argument and cherry pick others that support it.

[BuffaloRedleg]

You're right, they do get injured all the time. But to suggest that losing Kiko is like another team having 15 players on their injury list, with over half of their skill position players on offense, is the same thing, isn't really being honest in the sense of assessing the situations, is it?

We've had one of the lightest injury lists all season long. Even now it's not as bad as many teams. Don't equate poor planning with injuiries. Spiller and Jackson weren't doing much. Spiller because he's an overrated role player and Jackson because his days are now gone.

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That's called showing up to an Tapout fight with an apron and a spatula.

Is that really your best?

You didn't respond to the crux of my point, once again. What do you make of the fact that the Bills beat the Lions and the Saints lost to the Lions with essentially the same roster? A lot of straw manning and ignoring points you cant refute going on by you as usual.