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ghz in pittsburgh
10-21-2014, 11:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/341432004/wilsona_normal.jpgAaron Wilson@RavensInsider (http://www.billszone.com/RavensInsider) · 18 mins18 minutes ago (http://www.billszone.com/RavensInsider/status/524605693035544577)

Bills are signing running back Phillip Tanner, according to a league source

ghz in pittsburgh
10-21-2014, 11:41 AM
Re: RB Antonio Andrews. The <s>#</s>Bills (http://www.billszone.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash) wanted to sign him, and he had a solid $ offer. Andrews wanted to stay with <s>#</s>Titans (http://www.billszone.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash), who promoted him

Ed
10-21-2014, 12:09 PM
Phillip Tanner? Well that's the absolute least exciting move they could have made at RB.

9 rushing attempts for 12 yds last year. Sweet.

streetkings01
10-21-2014, 12:15 PM
Phillip Tanner? Well that's the absolute least exciting move they could have made at RB.

9 rushing attempts for 12 yds last year. Sweet.Who cares.........Fred will be back in 4 weeks and we have Dixon and Brown to carry the load.

You think any vet running back will sign here knowing he'll be the odd man out once Fred comes back?

jamze132
10-21-2014, 12:19 PM
Who cares.........Fred will be back in 4 weeks and we have Dixon and Brown to carry the load.

You think any vet running back will sign here knowing he'll be the odd man out once Fred comes back?

There's no guarantee FJ will be able to perform like he did the rest of the season.

Ed
10-21-2014, 12:29 PM
Who cares.........Fred will be back in 4 weeks and we have Dixon and Brown to carry the load.

You think any vet running back will sign here knowing he'll be the odd man out once Fred comes back?
Yeah I doubt he gets any carries this week, but there were definitely a lot more intriguing options than Tanner. But whatever, I'm not crying about it.

I do think any vet RB would sign anywhere if it meant collecting a few game checks. How's not being with a team better? And if CJ goes on IR that opens a roster spot for a RB.

ServoBillieves
10-21-2014, 12:38 PM
Who's really available? Felix Jones? I don't know who this guy is but as stated by Ed, I'm not upset. We have Brown and Dixon who can shoulder the load while Fred is on the mend.

Ed
10-21-2014, 12:40 PM
Who's really available? Felix Jones? I don't know who this guy is but as stated by Ed, I'm not upset. We have Brown and Dixon who can shoulder the load while Fred is on the mend.
You don't want to see McGahee return?

Jry44
10-21-2014, 12:42 PM
Phillip Tanner? Well that's the absolute least exciting move they could have made at RB.

9 rushing attempts for 12 yds last year. Sweet.

Half way through the season, I'm not sure who else you expected to be available. He's a body, and nothing more than that.

ghz in pittsburgh
10-21-2014, 12:52 PM
Tanner will be active. He's special teamer.

Dixon moves full time to RB. I guess Marrone likes his 4 - 5 yard run on 1st downs (no cut, straight ahead pile moving, mind you). Then Brown comes on 2nd down ...

Homegrown
10-21-2014, 12:59 PM
Tanner??? ... is Shaud Williams or Tanard Jackson MIA?

Fletch
10-21-2014, 01:11 PM
This guy's a beast!

Move over Fred Jackson and Adrian Peterson.

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Super Bowl here we come. 11-5 for sure.

Fletch
10-21-2014, 01:15 PM
Ironically Tanner's collegiate numbers put Brown's to shame.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/phillip-tanner-1.html

GreedoII
10-21-2014, 01:45 PM
RB are a dime a dozen...I like what they have even without CJ and Fred.

DraftBoy
10-21-2014, 05:45 PM
Ironically Tanner's collegiate numbers put Brown's to shame.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/phillip-tanner-1.html

And the giant, absolute massive flaw in your point is...? Do you even know?

YardRat
10-21-2014, 06:24 PM
lol...

Fletch
10-22-2014, 04:48 PM
And the giant, absolute massive flaw in your point is...? Do you even know?


lol...

Only two bites?

I'm disappointed. I thought there'd be more.

Yes, tell me though to see if we're on the same page?

Funny the double standard routinely applied by fools such as yourselves, routinely.

feldspar
10-22-2014, 05:09 PM
Funny the double standard routinely applied by fools such as yourselves, routinely.

Funny how douchebags don't realize that they are douchebags.

Fletch
10-22-2014, 06:33 PM
Funny how douchebags don't realize that they are douchebags.

Yeah, isn't it.

YardRat
10-23-2014, 05:17 AM
http://www.westfieldrepublican.com/page/content.detail/id/682221/Bibbs-stays-with-Broncos-after-Bills-come-calling.html?isap=1&nav=5078

Apparently they tried to sign Bibbs from Denver's PS also.

DraftBoy
10-23-2014, 05:38 AM
Only two bites?

I'm disappointed. I thought there'd be more.

Yes, tell me though to see if we're on the same page?

Funny the double standard routinely applied by fools such as yourselves, routinely.

Nobody can quite be sure what page you are since you're trying to compare collegiate stats and apply them to the NFL.

But since you asked Phillip Tanner spent 5 years in college playing in 36 total games, Brown spent just over a year playing in 14 games. Of course his stats are going to be greater than Brown's he only has 326 more carries. Also a total of 0.1 YPC avg difference between the two.

feldspar
10-23-2014, 06:33 AM
Yeah, isn't it.

What did you think about Sammy Watkins' performance against the Vikings last week?

Fletch
10-23-2014, 07:48 AM
What did you think about Sammy Watkins' performance against the Vikings last week?

What kind of a question is that? Love to see more of it. You say that like I came down on it. I don't think I've commented until now. You've gotta stop reading what others say that I said or didn't say. They're full of **** most of the time.

Where was that against New England though? Or Chicago? If he shows up to half that in Chicago we win in regulation. Or San Diego, a home loss?

Watkins has shown up three times in seven games. Was that a breakthrough, can we expect to see more of that, or is he now going to disappear for two more games before showing up against Miami again?

Had you considered that Minnesota's pass D is almost identical to ours? In light of that is it as impressive as the numbers might suggest?

Here's the more important thing to look at and take away from that game, what did this offense look like without Sammy's contributions? Let's not forget that this was Minnesota, not Denver, and that the game was at home in one that we should have walked away with on both sides.

What are your thoughts on our highly ranked run defense allowing 5.4 yards-per-carry and 158 total yards to a RB named McKinnon and the Vikings with no pass support to even plan for? All I hear is everyone crowing about our marvelous rushing D but I'm trying to figure out why it's only top notch when the RB sucks and sucks anytime we play a decent RB. Forte 4.8 ypc. McKinnon 5.4 and he's not even good. He's a 3rd round rookie from a nothing school that has lit us and Atlanta's 2nd to last ranked defenses up.

I'd be somewhat concerned about this top-ranked rushing D as the offenses we face become tougher. What are your thoughts?

I see us not being ranked near the top in rushing for much longer.

better days
10-23-2014, 08:24 AM
What kind of a question is that? Love to see more of it. You say that like I came down on it. I don't think I've commented until now. You've gotta stop reading what others say that I said or didn't say. They're full of **** most of the time.

LMAO. So others are putting words in your mouth?

You do that to me ALL THE TIME.

Fletch
10-23-2014, 08:30 AM
LMAO. So others are putting words in your mouth?

You do that to me ALL THE TIME.

Well, there's a problem here. Here's what it is. Many posters here argue with me no matter what I say. When you, or anyone, takes a contrary position, it leaves me to assume that you think the opposite. What kind of a psycho would argue when in agreement, right?

So I'm often left to assume that based on the argumentative positions of others that they think contrary to what I put out there.

I do my best to respond do individual posts. I cannot help it if others then reply in manners that have no substance and begin just laying out falsehoods and the rest. That's the risk we all take here. At least I recognize that.

But really, there were threads about an "elite D" that had the support of quite a few posters which seem to have all now vanished since no one seems to want to suggest that anymore. Same with our RBs, DL, and WRs and a while back our secondary to a lesser level, not elite, but good. Now all of a sudden we're to believe that they are a below average group based on what I'm reading, which has been unwavering position all along.

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By the way, I'm still waiting for feldspars response to my post above that and his answers to my questions. You can take a crack at them too bd, feel free.

DesertFox24
10-23-2014, 08:39 AM
What is the point of this thread.

It is almost like the original poster is trying to trash the Bills Front Office because they could not get the two practice squad guys they wanted.

Just for their clarification once a player is signed to the practice squad they can be signed by any team in the league. However, if said team promotes him to the 53 man roster then they keep him no matter what.

In both cases the bills target was promoted. This says that the bills at least targeted guys that were wanted and shows they do have some skill when scouting pro talent.

That said it sucks they did not get either of those guys because I think both of them may have had a future on this team. Tanner does not and will be cut once CJ returns.

I also believe CJ will be gone and will draft a RB in the second or third round. Look at a guy like Mike Davis from South Carolina.

Fletch
10-23-2014, 09:40 AM
What is the point of this thread.

What's the purpose and point of most threads after the initial rounds of posts.

You have to dance around the piles of poop to find something to interact with someone over and then when someone posts an intelligent, coherrent, and well thought out response posters here regularly send out their dogs to go poop all over the yard making the responses of others to the more serious posts that much more difficult.

This place is like a party after midnight. Anyone that doesn't have beer goggles is considered to be problematic.

DraftBoy
10-23-2014, 10:13 AM
What's the purpose and point of most threads after the initial rounds of posts.

You have to dance around the piles of poop to find something to interact with someone over and then when someone posts an intelligent, coherrent, and well thought out response posters here regularly send out their dogs to go poop all over the yard making the responses of others to the more serious posts that much more difficult.

This place is like a party after midnight. Anyone that doesn't have beer goggles is considered to be problematic.

To be clear, you think that your point on comparing their college numbers qualifies as an intelligent, coherent, and well thought out response?

justasportsfan
10-23-2014, 10:29 AM
Ironically Tanner's collegiate numbers put Brown's to shame.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/phillip-tanner-1.html


without looking at the circumstances of both rb's...... Van Pelt broke Dan MArinos college nos.

Fletch
10-23-2014, 10:35 AM
To be clear, you think that your point on comparing their college numbers qualifies as an intelligent, coherent, and well thought out response?

To be clear I was being entirely sarcastic.

Would you like to address the primary topic though.

It doesn't change the fact that Brown did nothing relevant in college, absolutely nothing.

So what is all this hope based on two or three games built on? Just that, nothing more.

Can we then use that to suggest that any RB in the NFL that plays two or three good games is starting material?

Start there if you really want to discuss this.

DesertFox24
10-23-2014, 10:44 AM
What's the purpose and point of most threads after the initial rounds of posts.

You have to dance around the piles of poop to find something to interact with someone over and then when someone posts an intelligent, coherrent, and well thought out response posters here regularly send out their dogs to go poop all over the yard making the responses of others to the more serious posts that much more difficult.

This place is like a party after midnight. Anyone that doesn't have beer goggles is considered to be problematic.

I was referring to the original post not yours

DraftBoy
10-23-2014, 10:50 AM
To be clear I was being entirely sarcastic.

Would you like to address the primary topic though.

It doesn't change the fact that Brown did nothing relevant in college, absolutely nothing.

So what is all this hope based on two or three games built on? Just that, nothing more.

Can we then use that to suggest that any RB in the NFL that plays two or three good games is starting material?

Start there if you really want to discuss this.

No you weren't, and your backpedal to suggest such is just sad.

The primary topic that the Bills signed a RB? Sure the Bills needed a RB with all the injuries, Tanner wasn't the first choice but for what he will be its not a bad move.

Did you even watch Brown play in college or are you again zoning in just on stats?

Well considering Brown has seen action in 32 games in his NFL career I dont think its based on 2 or 3 games but since you're point is transparent what you're referring to is the three games in 2012 where he received more than 15 carries and went for 381 yards on 58 carries and scored three times while averaging 6.45 ypc.

He's only potentially starting due to an injury, but don't let the actual facts of the situation get in the way of a cheap shot.

DesertFox24
10-23-2014, 10:50 AM
To be clear I was being entirely sarcastic.

Would you like to address the primary topic though.

It doesn't change the fact that Brown did nothing relevant in college, absolutely nothing.

So what is all this hope based on two or three games built on? Just that, nothing more.

Can we then use that to suggest that any RB in the NFL that plays two or three good games is starting material?

Start there if you really want to discuss this.

Brown was the top RB in high school committed to Miami and then decommitted for some reasons. At the time I had a friend who followed Miami and rumor was Miami was not calling him every day or not willing to make promises (take that for what ever you will to him).

He then went to Tenn with Kiffin played the year, transferred to KState after Kiffin left. Due to transfer rules had to sit out his soph year and then played the 14 games his RSSoph year. He then declared for the draft against the advice of many and got drafted in the seventh round.

Had he gone back to school and produced another good year he probably would have gone in the third easily.

To summarize the guy has talent, did not want to play in college and wanted to play in the pros to make money.

It is what it is a guy with talent wanting to cash in for that, no desire to be the greatest just wants to get paid. I have no issues with it all and wish him all the best with us and whatever else happens with his career.

better days
10-23-2014, 11:07 AM
To be clear I was being entirely sarcastic.

Would you like to address the primary topic though.

It doesn't change the fact that Brown did nothing relevant in college, absolutely nothing.

So what is all this hope based on two or three games built on? Just that, nothing more.

Can we then use that to suggest that any RB in the NFL that plays two or three good games is starting material?

Start there if you really want to discuss this.

Well, it is hope for Brown, nothing more than that.

I base my hope on the fact the Bills liked Brown enough to trade for him.

Brown was highly recruited coming out of HS & went to Tennessee.

Brown transfered to Kansas State after his freshman year when Lane Kiffen left Tenn to go to USC.

He got injured soon after transferring which is why his numbers in College are so low.

He left KS after that season to go to the NFL.

He has limited experience, but he does have the measurables you want in a RB, speed (timed under 4.4 seconds) & power.

EricStratton
10-23-2014, 11:13 AM
One of the highlights of a message board is when a poster who types out page after page of information gets caught in a mistake then claims it was completely sarcastic or a joke.

It happens in all the forums and it is always worth a laugh.

Fletch
10-27-2014, 07:03 AM
No you weren't, and your backpedal to suggest such is just sad.

The primary topic that the Bills signed a RB? Sure the Bills needed a RB with all the injuries, Tanner wasn't the first choice but for what he will be its not a bad move.

Did you even watch Brown play in college or are you again zoning in just on stats?

Well considering Brown has seen action in 32 games in his NFL career I dont think its based on 2 or 3 games but since you're point is transparent what you're referring to is the three games in 2012 where he received more than 15 carries and went for 381 yards on 58 carries and scored three times while averaging 6.45 ypc.

He's only potentially starting due to an injury, but don't let the actual facts of the situation get in the way of a cheap shot.

That's one of the funniest posts of all time.

Me of all people DraftBoy, really believing that Tanner was anything even worth commenting on.

You guys truly are a hoot.