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trapezeus
10-22-2014, 05:38 PM
Pretty good episode I watched on dvr. He talked about music city throw forward. You forget how good that 99 team was. And how good flutie was that yr.

Wade said in interview that we probably win that game if flutie starts. And the stats on RJ was terrible even with a great last drive.

Anyone else watch?

Albany,n.y.
10-22-2014, 06:16 PM
Flutie was mediocre in 1999, the D carried the team. His big year was 1998.

BillsImpossible
10-22-2014, 06:27 PM
I'm so over the past.

I bent the past over doggy style, put my dick in it, blew my load, said goodbye - get the F out, and then I kissed the future.

Beebe
10-22-2014, 06:50 PM
I'm still mad that Doug didn't start that game, Rob only completed like 11 passes that game and played like ****. So I do believe Doug wins that game.

Thurmal
10-22-2014, 07:32 PM
Revisionist history...Flutie sucked that year. He turned the ball over in the redzone seemingly once a game.

BillsImpossible
10-22-2014, 07:38 PM
The past is getting old.

Pun intended.

Goobylal
10-22-2014, 09:13 PM
Flutie was figured-out by midway of that season. Hence the reason they decided to replace Flutie. And when RJ left the field in that playoff game, the team had the lead. He didn't play ST's. Or officiate.

justasportsfan
10-23-2014, 10:33 AM
Anyone else watch?

this explains why Tacklingdummy's been missing. His mom says he hasn't come out of the basement since that video aired.

GreedoII
10-23-2014, 11:26 AM
it just didn't make sense at the time. Why not just start him in week 10 rather than wait until the stupid playoffs if Flutie was exposed and ineffective?? Mismanagement is why...oh wait...still going on today...

MikeInRoch
10-23-2014, 11:32 AM
Flutie is the most over-rated non-Cowboy non-Tebow quarterback of all time.

justasportsfan
10-23-2014, 12:58 PM
Flutie is the most over-rated non-Cowboy non-Tebow quarterback of all time.

he may have been an over rated starting qb but he was one of the best back up qb's ever.

Bill Cody
10-23-2014, 03:17 PM
Pretty good episode I watched on dvr. He talked about music city throw forward. You forget how good that 99 team was. And how good flutie was that yr.

Wade said in interview that we probably win that game if flutie starts. And the stats on RJ was terrible even with a great last drive.

Anyone else watch?

Wade just said the obvious and it still stings him. Ralph ordered that move. RJ was a loser. Flutie was a winner. Nuff said.

Beebe
10-23-2014, 08:49 PM
In 1997, Chiefs coach Marty Schottenheimer faced a situation similar.Elvis Grbac was the starting quarterback that season, but he suffered a broken collarbone. Rich Gannon came off the bench and won games. The Chiefs finished 13-3 and secured homefield advantage, but Schottenheimer went back to Grbac, and the result was disastrous.The Chiefs were upset in the first round of the playoffs by the Broncos, and Gannon left in free agency the next year to turn the Raiders into a playoff contender and eventual Super Bowl participant.

The Jokeman
10-23-2014, 09:30 PM
Pretty good episode I watched on dvr. He talked about music city throw forward. You forget how good that 99 team was. And how good flutie was that yr.

Wade said in interview that we probably win that game if flutie starts. And the stats on RJ was terrible even with a great last drive.

Anyone else watch?

How good he was in 1999? They glossed over that despite his winning ways the offense scored an unspectacular 17 points in the last 5 games with Flutie under center. Then RJ comes in after sitting most of the year and puts 31 against a playoff team in the Colts that 15 weeks earlier held the Flutie only put up 14 points again. The reason RJ got the start in that Titans playoff game was the offense was struggling all year putting up points and am sure Ralph saw RJ put up to above average performances by RJ in Week 16 of the 1998 and 1999 season and the thought we had a better chance to put up points. Again had the music city miracle run back never happened RJ would be applauded for that final drive when he was making plays with no shoe etc.

The Jokeman
10-23-2014, 09:32 PM
Wade just said the obvious and it still stings him. Ralph ordered that move. RJ was a loser. Flutie was a winner. Nuff said.

Did you watch the special? Flutie won a grand total of 0 NFL playoff games. Also I'm curious why they didn't discuss good ole Flutie crossing the picket line to play during the 1987 season when most NFL players were on strike or how he got benched in the USFL? He was a simple game manager but the most telling thing was Flutie himself said he wasn't magical at all.

Mr. Pink
10-24-2014, 02:49 AM
Did you watch the special? Flutie won a grand total of 0 NFL playoff games. Also I'm curious why they didn't discuss good ole Flutie crossing the picket line to play during the 1987 season when most NFL players were on strike or how he got benched in the USFL? He was a simple game manager but the most telling thing was Flutie himself said he wasn't magical at all.

Did they talk about how he was a locker room cancer in Chicago and the veterans hated him?

Or that he was terrible in New England?

Or did they go from the Hail Mary in Boston College to CFL glory to Flutie Flakes?

Night Train
10-24-2014, 03:10 AM
Flutie had a good 2nd half of 1998. That's basically it.

He was figured out so quickly.

trapezeus
10-24-2014, 07:43 AM
he wasn't peyton, but he was fun. it wasn't lost on me then or now that trouble always seems to follow him. and those people usually complain that it's following them, but they tend to bring it on. everyone knew by the time he left that they has starting trouble behind the scenes.

even in his interview, he was a little smug of "football is football".

it was a fun ride with him. it is just devastating that 99 wasn't just our last playoff appearance, but that team had a run in them. i remember RJ thowing without his shoe and happy when they kicked the FG. i also remember waiting for the replay to be overturned. it was just too obvious that it was a forward pass.

those were the days that you did think about next opponents in the playoffs.

djjimkelly
10-24-2014, 07:47 AM
Did they talk about how he was a locker room cancer in Chicago and the veterans hated him?

Or that he was terrible in New England?

Or did they go from the Hail Mary in Boston College to CFL glory to Flutie Flakes?

the further we get away away from the jauron era the more i laugh at your posts lol

imbondz
10-24-2014, 08:13 AM
My recollection is that we'd already made the playoffs, couldn't change our seeding, so Wade sat Flutie to rest him. RJ comes in and destroys a bad Colts team. I don't remember them being a playoff team. Then Wilson made the decision to start RJ. I was at the MCM game. It sucked more being there.

The Jokeman
10-24-2014, 09:53 AM
My recollection is that we'd already made the playoffs, couldn't change our seeding, so Wade sat Flutie to rest him. RJ comes in and destroys a bad Colts team. I don't remember them being a playoff team. Then Wilson made the decision to start RJ. I was at the MCM game. It sucked more being there.

The Colts won the division in 1999, they were 13-3. Had they beat us they would have been the top seated team in the conference instead of Jacksonsville.

Goobylal
10-24-2014, 09:54 AM
How good he was in 1999? They glossed over that despite his winning ways the offense scored an unspectacular 17 points in the last 5 games with Flutie under center. Then RJ comes in after sitting most of the year and puts 31 against a playoff team in the Colts that 15 weeks earlier held the Flutie only put up 14 points again. The reason RJ got the start in that Titans playoff game was the offense was struggling all year putting up points and am sure Ralph saw RJ put up to above average performances by RJ in Week 16 of the 1998 and 1999 season and the thought we had a better chance to put up points. Again had the music city miracle run back never happened RJ would be applauded for that final drive when he was making plays with no shoe etc.
In addition, the OL was a M*A*S*H unit. Flutie would have probably lost tons of yardage running around back there trying to make something happen.

My recollection is that we'd already made the playoffs, couldn't change our seeding, so Wade sat Flutie to rest him. RJ comes in and destroys a bad Colts team. I don't remember them being a playoff team. Then Wilson made the decision to start RJ. I was at the MCM game. It sucked more being there.
The Colts were 13-3 and had a first-round bye.

The last buffalo fan
10-24-2014, 10:30 AM
I liked Flutie then, and I still like the player he was. The person, not that much. :gobills:

Historian
10-24-2014, 10:46 AM
I had no idea that he had an autistic son.

Sad.

Mr. Pink
10-24-2014, 04:49 PM
the further we get away away from the jauron era the more i laugh at your posts lol

I've laughed at your posts ever since you thought Losman was gonna be great.

Goobylal
10-24-2014, 05:52 PM
I had no idea that he had an autistic son.

Sad.
If you were old enough and followed the Bills, how could you NOT know he has an autistic son?

imbondz
10-24-2014, 08:37 PM
The Colts won the division in 1999, they were 13-3. Had they beat us they would have been the top seated team in the conference instead of Jacksonsville.

Ha. Guess I don't remember

kscdogbillsfan1221
10-24-2014, 08:51 PM
The thing that KILLS me about that 1999 team is I literally had NO doubt that had they won that game that they were going to the Super Bowl. I know it's conjecture on my part but I truly believe it.

next up would have been jacksonville. I'm sorry, but they were your prototypical paper tiger that year as evidenced by their early dismissal
there were the colts, who i believe we also had answers for.
then in the Super Bowl there was the greatest show on turf. i think we matched up well against them and would have probably won that game. we'll never know of course but along with the 4 superbowls, nothing ate at me more than that 1999 team and their number one ranked defense.

I know people will gasp when i say this but.... God I miss Wade