The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

    If Kyle Orton started against the Houston Texans, the Bills would be 5-2.

    If the Chicago Bears never parted ways with Kyle Orton, maybe the Bears beat the Colts in Super Bowl XLI?

    After getting benched in Denver in favor of football Jesus, Orton rode the NFL veteran quarterback donkey all the way to Dallas in search of greener pastures to no avail. Kyle and Tony never got along.

    At 31 years old, Kyle Orton is in his prime time as an NFL quarterback.

    While Orton was bagging groceries for Jerry in Dallas, he never let go of the thought of what Kurt Warner did in his NFL career.

    Like a good bourbon, good quarterbacks get better with age.

    For 3 consecutive games, Kyle Orton has passed for more than 280 yards.

    308 passing yards against Detroit.

    299 passing yards against New England.

    283 passing yards against Minnesota.

    The 2014 NFL season stats per game for Kyle Orton of the Buffalo Bills on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.


    So when is the last time a Buffalo Bills quarterback did such a thing?

    Ryan Fitzpatrick never did such a thing.

    Get Ryan Fitzpatrick Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


    Drew Bledsoe accomplished passing more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games 1 time as a Buffalo Bill in the 2002 season.

    Get Drew Bledsoe Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


    So how many times did Jim Kelly pass for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games?

    Twice.

    Love me 2 times, baby. So I love Kyle Orton twice as much today.

    Kelly passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games at the beginning of the 1987 season.

    The next time Jim Kelly passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games was in 1992.

    That's all folks.

    Get Jim Kelly Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


    Kyle Orton has passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games as the Buffalo Bills starting quarterback.

    Jim Kelly only did that twice in his entire career.
  • HAMMER
    I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
    • Jul 2003
    • 8132

    #2
    Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

    I see a lot of comments stating he is a stop gap, etc. My eyes tell me he is more than that. He sees the field very well, when he has a moment in the pocket. I have been pleasantly surprised.

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    • coastal
      Legendary Zoner
      • Mar 2005
      • 15513

      #3
      Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

      As are two good offensive guards and Kiko from you going deep in the playoffs.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71596

        #4
        Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

        Had Orton been here during camp, hed have so much more chemistry not only with his supporting cast but with Hackett as well. With an ol that can pass block he can still be better than what he's been in his first 3 games
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        • kscdogbillsfan1221
          Registered User
          • Nov 2007
          • 5652

          #5
          Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

          he's way better than EJ, but the problem is that he is good for at least one bad turnover a game.
          I came.
          I saw.
          I conquered.

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          • better days
            Registered User
            • Jan 2010
            • 22028

            #6
            Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

            Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
            If Kyle Orton started against the Houston Texans, the Bills would be 5-2.

            If the Chicago Bears never parted ways with Kyle Orton, maybe the Bears beat the Colts in Super Bowl XLI?

            After getting benched in Denver in favor of football Jesus, Orton rode the NFL veteran quarterback donkey all the way to Dallas in search of greener pastures to no avail. Kyle and Tony never got along.

            At 31 years old, Kyle Orton is in his prime time as an NFL quarterback.

            While Orton was bagging groceries for Jerry in Dallas, he never let go of the thought of what Kurt Warner did in his NFL career.

            Like a good bourbon, good quarterbacks get better with age.

            For 3 consecutive games, Kyle Orton has passed for more than 280 yards.

            308 passing yards against Detroit.

            299 passing yards against New England.

            283 passing yards against Minnesota.

            The 2014 NFL season stats per game for Kyle Orton of the Buffalo Bills on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.


            So when is the last time a Buffalo Bills quarterback did such a thing?

            Ryan Fitzpatrick never did such a thing.

            Get Ryan Fitzpatrick Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


            Drew Bledsoe accomplished passing more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games 1 time as a Buffalo Bill in the 2002 season.

            Get Drew Bledsoe Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


            So how many times did Jim Kelly pass for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games?

            Twice.

            Love me 2 times, baby. So I love Kyle Orton twice as much today.

            Kelly passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games at the beginning of the 1987 season.

            The next time Jim Kelly passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games was in 1992.

            That's all folks.

            Get Jim Kelly Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


            Kyle Orton has passed for more than 280 yards in 3 consecutive games as the Buffalo Bills starting quarterback.

            Jim Kelly only did that twice in his entire career.
            STATS are pure BS, especially stats that compare todays NFL with yesterdays NFL.

            Get a CLUE, the RULES have changed since Kelly played for those that have not noticed.

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            Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
            he's way better than EJ, but the problem is that he is good for at least one bad turnover a game.
            As well as a dozen sacks.

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            • Swiper
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2010
              • 33105

              #7
              Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

              Originally posted by coastal View Post
              As are two good offensive guards and Kiko from you going deep in the playoffs.
              Didn't the Bills leave the door open for Alonso to return before the end of the season?

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              • pmoon6
                Legendary Zoner
                • Dec 2002
                • 21476

                #8
                Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                Originally posted by kscdogbillsfan1221 View Post
                he's way better than EJ, but the problem is that he is good for at least one bad turnover a game.
                If I remember correctly, Jim Kelly wasn't immune to throwing picks, sometimes a few of them.

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                • The Doc
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 496

                  #9
                  Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                  I agree with the OP. Orton is a very capable QB. We all know his limitations as a QB revolve around his lack of mobility. We need better production out of the guards. Orton has carried this team because of bad interior line play. We haven't been able to run the ball and we haven't been able to pass protect but Orton, being as good as he is, has led us to two very improbable wins. If the interior of the line starts playing better, PLAYOFFS.

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                  • GvilleBills
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 862

                    #10
                    Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                    How many have >280yds in 4 consecutive games?
                    Diehard BillGator... best of both worlds

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                      Originally posted by pmoon6 View Post
                      If I remember correctly, Jim Kelly wasn't immune to throwing picks, sometimes a few of them.
                      The only time turnovers can't be overcome is when they happen at the end of the game.

                      Kelly was clutch at the end of games, Orton is as well.

                      Fitz, not so much.

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                      • Buffalogic
                        Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5345

                        #12
                        Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                        Originally posted by pmoon6 View Post
                        If I remember correctly, Jim Kelly wasn't immune to throwing picks, sometimes a few of them.
                        Correct. Every QB turns the ball over. Orton just holds it too long sometimes and takes a sack in a crucial situation. Then he completes a 4th and 20 haha. So he is what he is.

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                        • IlluminatusUIUC
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 8966

                          #13
                          Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                          Originally posted by pmoon6 View Post
                          If I remember correctly, Jim Kelly wasn't immune to throwing picks, sometimes a few of them.
                          Kelly's INT rates were normal for his era. If he heaved up that many picks today he'd be run out of the league, and rightly so. Kelly's career INT rate is worse then Michael Vick, Jay Cutler, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's not to critique him, it's to point out that it's a different game today and he didn't get the benefit of many changes.

                          You can't compare Orton or Manuel by Kelly's stats to defend either man, they have to stand up against their contemporaries.


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                          • WagonCircler
                            Escaped Convict
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5876

                            #14
                            Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                            Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                            You can't compare Orton or Manuel by Kelly's stats to defend either man, they have to stand up against their contemporaries.
                            I don't think that was the point of the OP.

                            I think he's saying that Orton is the best we've had since Kelly, and that it's an impressive accomplishment to average 300 yds/game for 3 games.

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                            • BillsImpossible
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16206

                              #15
                              Re: The Buffalo Bills Would Be 2-5 Without Kyle Orton, Only Kelly Surpasses Him

                              Originally posted by GvilleBills View Post
                              How many have >280yds in 4 consecutive games?
                              Bledsoe and Kelly each did this once in their careers.

                              In 2002, Drew Bledsoe passed for more than 280 yards in 4 consecutive games.

                              Get Drew Bledsoe Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


                              In 1987, Jim Kelly passed for more than 280 yards in 4 consecutive games.

                              To be fair, Kelly only missed the 280 yard mark by 5 yards in 1991.

                              In his first 5 games of the 1991 season, Kelly passed for 381, 363, 275, 322, and 303 yards.

                              Get Jim Kelly Career game log for regular season and playoff games on Pro-football-reference.com.


                              If Kyle Orton has another very good game against the Jets, he will be entering Jim Kelly's passing territory.

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