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  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71580

    Our Depth and Whaley

    Anyone think Whaley has done a good job finding depth for this team?

    Defensively, I think he has finding Charles and Wynn.

    Offensively Whaley however found Dixon and Brown.
    The OL is still a problem but I wonder if its an OL coach/Marrone problem developing these players. D'Alessandris/Gailey did better with less.
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  • BillsOverDolphins
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Jun 2003
    • 2256

    #2
    Re: Our Depth and Whaley

    He ****ed up the most important position
    Oh no!...We suck again!

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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #3
      Re: Our Depth and Whaley

      i think the depth is the best in years. we've made it to week 8 and no street pick-ups. Leon Joe, right a bell?

      I also don't think the OL issues are a result of talent acquisition. the fact every player has struggled no matter who they put in starts to make it seem coach/scheme oriented to me. i don't watch the line a ton when watching the game live, but i feel like when you see the breakdowns on replays, there is always one or two guys just standing there blocking no one.

      if it was a talent issue, guys would be steamrolled and pushed into the QB and sacks by the bushells. t

      the bills just seem to have guys that arent' gettting or buying what's being taught. and the sad reality of that if it is true is that OL play can't get better if the coaches stay the same or are dedicated to what theyve been doing for 8 weeks at the very least.

      that's my opinion, don't know if anyone else shares that view point.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71580

        #4
        Re: Our Depth and Whaley

        Originally posted by BillsOverDolphins View Post
        He ****ed up the most important position
        I agree, but I wonder if that was Nix's screw up. NIx was still in charge when we drafted EJ.

        IMO< opinion Kolb getting injured forced them to start EJ sooner than they wanted to.
        Last edited by justasportsfan; 10-27-2014, 09:21 AM.
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        • Forward_Lateral
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 29897

          #5
          Re: Our Depth and Whaley

          Originally posted by BillsOverDolphins View Post
          He ****ed up the most important position
          Didn't Buddy draft EJ?

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          • The King
            Without me it's just Awe so
            • Jun 2004
            • 42380

            #6
            Re: Our Depth and Whaley

            Depth is the hardest thing to come by when you're rebuilding. Losing Kiko was a major blow, but the Bills haven't missed a beat. I think Schwartz is a tool, but I hope he stays for a while. I think his antics are enough to keep teams clear or him. Also I think Pepper Johnson might deserve some credit for the adaptability of the DLine.
            I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
            "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
            You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
            It was all
            true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
            He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
            mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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            • stuckincincy
              Buffalo Bills Fan
              • Sep 2003
              • 15084

              #7
              Re: Our Depth and Whaley

              Originally posted by The King View Post
              Depth is the hardest thing to come by when you're rebuilding. Losing Kiko was a major blow, but the Bills haven't missed a beat. I think Schwartz is a tool, but I hope he stays for a while. I think his antics are enough to keep teams clear or him. Also I think Pepper Johnson might deserve some credit for the adaptability of the DLine.
              Heh, I remember when some folks were clamoring to can Marrone and ensconce Schwartz as HC.
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              • DesertFox24
                Registered User
                • Jul 2005
                • 2129

                #8
                Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                Whaley deserves credit as does nix. Yes they have not found our franchise qb. That being said they acted and got Orton and at 31 he may be able to be our qb for this year and many more after. That would be perfect because it would allow us to wait to get the guy we want and develop him. Additionally of we can resign our key guys we will have the flexibility now to move up in the draft to get out qb, not this year. That is what happens when you have a good qb. He still has plenty of arm and is playing well and at 31 he is not going to retire anytime soon.

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                • HAMMER
                  I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 8132

                  #9
                  Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                  Originally posted by BillsOverDolphins View Post
                  He ****ed up the most important position
                  Orton is 3-1, if that's F####ng it up I'm good with that.

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                  • trapezeus
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 19525

                    #10
                    Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                    Originally posted by HAMMER View Post
                    Orton is 3-1, if that's F####ng it up I'm good with that.
                    that's a little simplistic. Definitely has been an upgrade, but the offense still is largley not clicking. who's fault that is is hard to figure out. to me it seems OC related. if the bills didnt get a handful of those turnovers in the redzone, we wouldn't have scored any points by going 3 and out.

                    orton's average has been a .500 qb, 4 games into his starting role, it's hard to believe something dramatically changed. i know he's been snake bitten by some organizations bailing on him for no reason...but still. I want to see the rest of the season before i know if we have a guy who is servicable for a few more years. regardless, i think if he's the starting qb next year, he will be paid like one. and that has to go into the equation. is it beetter to pay orton to be slightly above average, or keep paying the DL to win games. I

                    f they weren't as good as they have been, i don't know if we have wins against miami, detroit, minnesota and NYJ. that's 4 of 5 wins where their dominance took over. i haven't seen the offense take over a game in hackett's time here.

                    furthermore, i don't know if hackett wasn't the son of a football family that he still has a job.

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                    • Topas
                      German smartass
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 880

                      #11
                      Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                      Originally posted by BillsOverDolphins View Post
                      He ****ed up the most important position
                      Well, but so did 26 other GMs. Tell me how many good QBs are in the league. This is not easy. Then again, we are experts in missing on QBs since we do this for more than a decade. But you cannot blame Whaley for that.

                      And then again, at least he signed Orton. That was a good job, especially that everybody laughed at him because we are paying Orton so much money. But who is laughing now?

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                      • Swiper
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 33105

                        #12
                        Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                        Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
                        Anyone think Whaley has done a good job finding depth for this team?

                        Defensively, I think he has finding Charles and Wynn.

                        Offensively Whaley however found Dixon and Brown.
                        The OL is still a problem but I wonder if its an OL coach/Marrone problem developing these players. D'Alessandris/Gailey did better with less.
                        After watching Dixon and Brown suck all day yesterday are you actually saying getting these two was a good thing???

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                        • Swiper
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 33105

                          #13
                          Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                          Whaley whiffed on all three o-linemen he drafted in 2014. Henderson doesn't get as much criticism b/c he was a 7th rounder. But he got owned at will yesterday by the Jets.

                          His best pick (that he didn't sell the farm for) was Preston Brown.

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                          • justasportsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71580

                            #14
                            Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                            After watching Dixon and Brown suck all day yesterday are you actually saying getting these two was a good thing???
                            good point. I think OL is the problem.
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                            • stuckincincy
                              Buffalo Bills Fan
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 15084

                              #15
                              Re: Our Depth and Whaley

                              The Orton signing has panned out so far. He and the team are 3 and 1, playing 3 weak sisters, some with injury problems, and his performance against NE was decent - but 5 sacks...divide them up between the OL, or him, as you like.

                              So far, so good.

                              Black eye for Manual. BUF has been remarkably injury-free until Spiller/Jackson, but had the good fortune of playing the train wreck NYJ last week.

                              Bye week coming up. And KC at home squares off against NYJ this coming Sunday. They are currently 4 -3 and need to whip NYJ to keep pace in their division.

                              Speaking of bye weeks - they extend out to week 12 this season:

                              What is the main concern of NFL players when the schedule was announced Wednesday? Bye weeks. We've compiled all the bye weeks in one neat place, for players and Fantasy Football fans alike.
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